Please post your questions about the chronology of this reel in this thread.
I bought one of these reels and it has a missing dog...ruff-ruff. Does anyone know what part # this thing takes?
I don't have any parts info at all on this one :(
Quote from: mizmo67 on September 30, 2016, 07:57:30 PM
I don't have any parts info at all on this one :(
Hi Mo! I had to pick an oldie...hee hee! Everything inside looks "long beachish"...is that a real word? :P
OK...forget about the dog question...this photo shows I nipped that in the bud.;) The pic also shows three red hard fiber washers(part # 4-60) being used as drag washers. Is this correct? This makes like 3 pre-war Penns I've found under gear washers used in the drag stack. Was it just something fishermen used to do...or was this a factory installation? ???
Some of the really old original washers were either leather, or fiberglass or asbestos
So factory, most likely.. looks like fiberglass type?
Dog does almost look like the 60?
What's the length on that?
Quote from: mizmo67 on October 01, 2016, 06:16:37 PM
Dog does almost look like the 60?
What's the length on that?
That dog I used was one of your #15-99s reground to work as a #15-60. It fits this Bayhead reel just fine. 8)
We've ground some down like that before! Glad you were able to make something fit.
Do you think the dog should be shortened a little to get a better angle on the gear sleeve?
Quote from: RowdyW on October 01, 2016, 07:06:55 PM
Do you think the dog should be shortened a little to get a better angle on the gear sleeve?
I think camera angle is bad Rudy...it actually fits real good. I even held a spring up against it while turning the sleeve...angle looks fine.
Mo65 ,
I believe the red washer went underneath the main gear. They used leather washers in the drag system . Many times when you take these old drag systems apart you will find them all gummed together and the leather washers can split or break up when trying to separate them . Looks like someone used an alternative.
Ray
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo244/m3040c/Penn%20Left%20Hand%20Reels/Figure6%20814%20x%20385_zpsa9muc30u.jpg)
This photo is of Bayheads Circa '40 Left and Right handed versions.
Mo
If the size is 6-155 I have Leather Drags & also the Red Washers that you removed. they are yours if you need them.
Mike
Quote from: Superhook on October 01, 2016, 08:41:37 PM
I believe the red washer went underneath the main gear. They used leather washers in the drag system . Many times when you take these old drag systems apart you will find them all gummed together and the leather washers can split or break up when trying to separate them . Looks like someone used an alternative.
Yes, those are red under gear washers...and like new...I'll put those right into my stock. I replaced them with some old leather washers...perfect power and smoothness fer the shelf. :D
Quote from: bluefish69 on October 01, 2016, 09:18:17 PM
If the size is 6-155 I have Leather Drags & also the Red Washers that you removed. they are yours if you need them.
I used #6-60s Mike, and they fit perfect, so I reckon that's a #5-60 gear. Thanks very much for the offer though! 8)
Penn Low End Reels Rule Of Thumb::
1----A Bay Head is a Low priced Bridge City
2---A Bridge City is an early version of the Penn 85 Sea Boy.
Parts between those three reels should be interchangeable.
I finished putting my Bayhead back together this morning. The first photo is a "before" shot...not too bad...but plenty of room for improvement. The second pic shows the green growth we need to remove from the stand and posts. That spool will look better polished, to tone down the bronze spots poking through the chrome. The last two shots are the finished piece, with that old linen line back on the spool. This picture tail plate of the ship sailing is one of my favorites. 8)
Nice work Mo. That reel turned out great. I love that picure tail plate. Same one found on the Angelsea.
Hi Mo
You did a great job with that reel and you take first class photos.
Basto
Nice job and nice cuttyhunk on that one too Mo.
-steve
Pretty slick Mo. dominick
Thanks fellas! That line broke in a few places Steve...but most of it was still pretty strong. On the other hand, the reel could be fished tomorrow, it's rock solid! These Bayheads are flying under the radar...very capable reels.8)
I was watching this one as well, nice pick up. Great reels that just feel solid!
I'm supposed to be getting a Bayhead in the mail here shortly, I will update with better photos when I get it.
I was curious if there were any schematics laying around for the Bayheads, or any signifying parts to determine which model I have.
The one I am getting has a hershey kiss style clicker, not the waffle, but has the graphic plate with the big ship on it (I believe that is what I see in the photo.)
I'm not planning on fishing with it, just getting it as I had never seen/heard of a Bayhead before, but I want to clean it up and get it in working order if it isn't.
Anywho, I hope this thread isn't too old!
I doubt you'll find a schematic for that Bayhead Brandon, but the old 85 Seaboy schematic should get you through. Many of the early models had the same internals as the Long Beach, the 85, and the Delmar 285. 8)
The model # is determined by yardage stamped under the foot
Quote from: Maxed Out on May 03, 2020, 05:07:48 PM
The model # is determined by yardage stamped under the foot
That's what I kind of was going with, but I haven't seen the bottom side of my Bayhead yet. Thanks for confirming that suspicion.
Quote from: mo65 on May 03, 2020, 03:17:12 PM
I doubt you'll find a schematic for that Bayhead Brandon, but the old 85 Seaboy schematic should get you through. Many of the early models had the same internals as the Long Beach, the 85, and the Delmar 285. 8)
Great! I have all of those reels! I should be able to swap some chrome around to make it nice and shiny if there are any bad spots on it.
Hi Brandon,
Welcome,
The Bayhead was produced by Penn from 1938 - 1940 ....3 years production run, essentially the Bayhead was a down spec'd Bridge City.
If you look at Mo's reel above you will see that it has a different logo than yours - Mo's reel is a lovely example of a 1938 #108.
Your reel has the 1939/1940 logo, and with that 'kiss clicker' would seem to be a late '39, 1940 reel. When you get the line off you will be able to determine if it has a drilled spool, or a post.
The Reel looks to be in good condition - I wouldn't get too keen on replacing too many parts at this stage of your reel addiction - just clean it up as per the usual - dilute vinegar etc. I think you will be surprised at how nice your reel will clean up.
Take care out there
Martin
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Quote from: Deepennz on May 04, 2020, 06:33:21 PM
Hi Brandon,
Welcome,
The Bayhead was produced by Penn from 1938 - 1940 ....3 years production run, essentially the Bayhead was a down spec'd Bridge City.
If you look at Mo's reel above you will see that it has a different logo than yours - Mo's reel is a lovely example of a 1938 #108.
Your reel has the 1939/1940 logo, and with that 'kiss clicker' would seem to be a late '39, 1940 reel. When you get the line off you will be able to determine if it has a drilled spool, or a post.
The Reel looks to be in good condition - I wouldn't get too keen on replacing too many parts at this stage of your reel addiction - just clean it up as per the usual - dilute vinegar etc. I think you will be surprised at how nice your reel will clean up.
Take care out there
Martin
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Thank you! I hope the deal goes through... a lot of people are not wanting to ship for some reason. He agreed but now is dragging his feet. Found another one for cheaper, the guy literally said he doesn't know how to ship and doesn't want to figure it out even for extra money... like WOW... what is it doing for sale then...
I haven't tried the vinegar with reel parts yet just lite scrubbing with steel wool which has been doing a great job. I'll try the vinegar solution on some internals and see what I get!
Steel wool is for pots and pans.
Using it on chrome reel parts will substantially lower the value and destroy any historical value as well
Quote from: Maxed Out on May 05, 2020, 01:36:43 AM
Steel wool is for pots and pans.
Using it on chrome reel parts will substantially lower the value and destroy any historical value as well
I use a very fine steel wool. It doesn't scratch the chrome whatsoever that I can see in any light. It just cleans it up and whatnot.
IF I scrubbed hard in one spot, sure, but not if I'm slightly scrubbing off the grim. It has polished all of my chrome to mirror finish...
I will probably just use vinegar and a rag on the bayhead if I get it as it is very old.