Posted this same concern in "General Questions and Trouble Shooting", only to later realize this would of been the better section to do so...
Hey Guys –
First post, so bear with me if this is a redundant question. Don't mean it to be. Received 3 sets of carbontex drag washers from Smooth Drag today for my Calcutta TE and Curado reels thanks to this site. Wanted to know the proper way to apply Cal's grease; do you grease the carbontex washers or the reel's metal drag washers? Or both? Also, how do you know when you have the right amount grease applied. Lastly, how often do you need to re-apply the grease?
Great site here with a ton of helpful info for us DIYers. Thanks for helping a newbie out!
Eric
I don't put it on liberally, but, it's on there pretty good on all surfaces of the metals and carbontex washers, while the bridge is out I assemble the sleeve completely less handle and crank the star down and the excess oozes out the top of the gear, wipe it off with my fingertip, unscrew the star and put the bridge assembly back into the sideplate. Has worked perfectly for me. Let the tension evenly distribute cals and excrete the rest, just my way of doing it.
Quote from: suitekids on January 15, 2013, 02:54:46 AM
I don't put it on liberally, but, it's on there pretty good on all surfaces of the metals and carbontex washers, while the bridge is out I assemble the sleeve completely less handle and crank the star down and the excess oozes out the top of the gear, wipe it off with my fingertip, unscrew the star and put the bridge assembly back into the sideplate. Has worked perfectly for me. Let the tension evenly distribute cals and excrete the rest, just my way of doing it.
What he said. ;D
I use an acid brush and a tooth brush in applying the grease so I can work it between the fibers. If I'm doing a lot of washers, I rub it in with my fingers then grab the next washer and repeat the process.
I was wondering the same thing. So... when you apply Cal's Grease to star drags you put it on liberally and when you apply it to lever drags, you wipe the excess off? I think I need to get this right, before attempting to service a few more reels. Thanks for your help.
Quote from: eaguon on January 15, 2013, 07:43:13 AM
I was wondering the same thing. So... when you apply Cal's Grease to star drags you put it on liberally and when you apply it to lever drags, you wipe the excess off? I think I need to get this right, before attempting to service a few more reels. Thanks for your help.
you don't have to be that particular, it's ok if Cals grease gets inside of everything, some people use it to grease all the internals, its not cheap, so most use it strictly for the drags and components because of the Teflon base. If you put too much on, don't worry about it, I personnally use it for the drags and OMC Triple Guard for the internals and screw threads, it's less cost prohibitive that way. I also try and be neat and tidy about it, but its ok if the Cal's squeezes out some, GO Fish!!
I use nitrile gloves, I scoop up a little Cal's using the washer and rub it with my fingers and set it aside on a paper towel. I do all my washers at once, when done, I'll place the lid back on the Cal's and get it out of the way.
A member had issues with drags, I don't remember who, I suggested to open the reel up and to wipe the Cal's off the washers, he probably had too much on. After doing so, the reel worked fine again. This was a star drag reel.
I lick my fingers after applying ;D
I forgot to mention, I've been doing carpentry and masonry for over 35 years. If I grouted tiles that day or layed some stones, I won't use gloves ...cleans my hands right up ;) ;D.
Sad to say but 46 years and still going on this end, but this is what I was getting at for these fine gents, before it all goes back together, I run a foam q-tip around the top of the stack after it's been squeezed out with the star drag, I also use an acid swab with the bristles cut short and swipe all the greased surfaces, then it's ready for final assembly, this ain't rocket science, but an illustration here kinda shows it in the rough for an idea of what it looks like, I suspect everyone has a different method to attain the same goal, this works, and always has, for me that is.
(http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr205/suitekids/Jigmaster/Jigmaster99001.jpg)
Very helpful. Thanks!
And yes, for lever drag reels. Apply and wipe off so that it does not bind with the pressure plate due to grease friction between the drag material and the pressure plate.
Thanks Bryan
Thanks guys for all the input. Used a small stiif brush to work the Cal's into the drags fibers. Lightly coated the metal washers as well. Worked like a charm! Appreciate the help...
Quote from: Alto Mare on January 15, 2013, 10:59:45 AM
I forgot to mention, I've been doing carpentry and masonry for over 35 years. If I grouted tiles that day or layed some stones, I won't use gloves ...cleans my hands right up ;) ;D.
Lol i might have to try this
I know this is an old post and I hope yawl don't mind me bringing it back up but I have a question that is well, important to me.
Should I use Cal's to lube the drag washers, assembly and mechanicals of the right or handle side of the reel and use marine grease for the clicker or left side ?
Are there any issues with cross contamination of these two greases if I used Cal's for the drag washers and marine grease for the mechanical drives on the same side ?
Yawl are great!
Thanks for all the help, Mic
Quote from: Mic on April 15, 2015, 08:52:36 PM
I know this is an old post and I hope yawl don't mind me bringing it back up but I have a question that is well, important to me.
Should I use Cal's to lube the drag washers, assembly and mechanicals of the right or handle side of the reel and use marine grease for the clicker or left side ?
Are there any issues with cross contamination of these two greases if I used Cal's for the drag washers and marine grease for the mechanical drives on the same side ?
Yawl are great!
Thanks for all the help, Mic
Not a big deal at all. Really the Cal's will prevent any regular marine grease getting into the washers, or, you can use a high temp marine grease like Penn grease and lube everything (including the washers) with it.
I think Alan has said that marine greases as they age can make for a sticky drag but I think this is in the *very old* category. Penn currently recommends their grease for drag washers too (a high temp Lithium based grease with marine additives).
Kinda just like Cal does too as you can also use his grease anywhere in the reel (and Accurate does this).
Thanks John,
That's what I was looking for. I would guess a pound of Cal's would last me a life time. Using it on the mechanics as well as the drags will keep it simple for me and that's the way I like it.
I didn't note who said that they cut the brush back on an acid brush, but that in it's self if something that is sure going to come in handy. I never thought about that. I just been saving every wore out tooth brush in the house for reel work. Now I got to get me a couple of acid brushes. Great idea~!
I'll be sending you a Pay Pal Miss Dawn for a pound of Cal's come Monday when I get back in.
Thanks again yawl~!