I have 4 ballistic reels, 2500,3000s. I sent one to daiwa earlier this year and they said the parts were no longer available. I think they were referring to a spool. But how do I tell which ones still are?
I continue to have trouble with bearings-hard to turn.
Anyone know who does Daiwa. I was told Triumph Rick in Fl does not like to do Daiwa.
Thanks in advance.
Quote from: chriselk on September 06, 2023, 04:36:24 PMI have 4 ballistic reels, 2500,3000s. I sent one to daiwa earlier this year and they said the parts were no longer available. I think they were referring to a spool. But how do I tell which ones still are?
I continue to have trouble with bearings-hard to turn.
Anyone know who does Daiwa. I was told Triumph Rick in Fl does not like to do Daiwa.
Thanks in advance.
There is a 5-Digit code on the reel...
D-A-I-W-A
If this is on the reel —- the parts are generally not available after a very few years from the manufacturer.
Some independent shops may have what you might need, though.
Best, Fred
Fred, that was savage.
Hes right though daiwa is terrible about parts availability. But you can, for a limited time, get a new reel! (At full MSRP).
Bearings as you may know, do not need to come from daiwa. they just gotta be the right size.
Dave's parts and service in Tampa is factory auth. Daiwa repair center. Great folks too, but they have quite a backlog for reel repair.
Wow, that Daiwa code works just like Shimano's... industry collusion?
You roll the dice and contact the distributor. Sometimes you get lucky and they might have the part you want in the secondhand writeoffs drawer! Has got me out of trouble more than once!
Daiwa is the absolute worst for parts. It amazes me that a Legacy company around as long as Daiwa has such a disaster for parts availability/distribution. I know repair depots here have dropped them for that reason.
Ref the Iron. Couple years back I found it impossible (hope you don't) to find parts anywhere. I introduced two guys looking for parts and one ended up selling his to the other as a parts reel.
Quote from: Lunker Larry on September 07, 2023, 03:47:42 PMRef the Iron. Couple years back I found it impossible (hope you don't) to find parts anywhere. I introduced two guys looking for parts and one ended up selling his to the other as a parts reel.
Are you referring to a
Quantum Iron?
I've never had a problem getting parts calling their Cali HQ's. Often they don't even charge me. Shimano though, often can't provide parts for a reel still in production.
I've had luck ordering from Japan, they offer similar models and many have been in production for a number of years. I can get just about every part for the Millionaire CV-Z platform since it has been in production since 1998. Now the hard part, sometimes the exact same part for one reel may get a different part number when the model is revised or carried over to another model. To make it more confusing, Daiwa Japan part numbers are different from that of Daiwa USA. In Japan there is a law that states replacement parts must be available for a period of 5 years once production ends. Thankfully, Daiwa keeps platforms around a long time before they discontinue or refresh them, so it's up to us to figure out which parts work and which ones do not. My case in point aside from the Millionaire CV-Z, the original Alphas which was made from '03 to '19, which also happens to share parts with the Pixy, PX68, and Millionaire. Same with the Ryoga/Pluton platform which has been around since '09. Where they seem to lack in this regard is with their spinning reels, Daiwa seems to change up the designs frequently to keep up with Shimano.
Welcome Chriselk.
I know this doesn't help with your problem, but Daiwa's will have parts availability in the form of "parts reels" that you can get for example from eBay. Not really a too expensive option if you have a favorite model. Also though, you never know the condition of something bought sight unseen.
I stick to the old-school stuff and it works well for me, but yeah, I miss-out on all those new innovative features.
Quote from: foakes on September 06, 2023, 04:44:19 PMQuote from: chriselk on September 06, 2023, 04:36:24 PMI have 4 ballistic reels, 2500,3000s. I sent one to daiwa earlier this year and they said the parts were no longer available. I think they were referring to a spool. But how do I tell which ones still are?
I continue to have trouble with bearings-hard to turn.
Anyone know who does Daiwa. I was told Triumph Rick in Fl does not like to do Daiwa.
Thanks in advance.
There is a 5-Digit code on the reel...
D-A-I-W-A
If this is on the reel —- the parts are generally not available after a very few years from the manufacturer.
Some independent shops may have what you might need, though.
Best, Fred
Like the "code" Shimano uses.
Well, he joined in 2013?
Didn't post until September of 2023.
And hasn't been back on since!
I think you guys pretty much scared him off!
Not condoning it, but if one owns/runs a competitive business, why would they not try to maximize their profit at the expense of the consumer. Parts vs new reels—-which is more profitable? I know I'd never succeed in business, cause I can't stand the idea of the unethical nature of that kinda thing.
Ha!, I never even noticed that!
Take the bearings to any bearing outlet, they will be metric, cheaper than buying a genuine part, good luck cheers Don.
Quote from: MarkT on September 06, 2023, 05:15:34 PMWow, that Daiwa code works just like Shimano's... industry collusion?
Ya know it's funny, I can get parts for a 40 year old Penn, no problem (not that I usually need to), but I can't get parts for a 2 year old Shimano or hardly anything for a Daiwa???
If it's just bearings, they're all readily available by size. 4x7x2.5 7x11x3 7x13x4
Typing this now as I wait on hold w/ Shimano on a parts query. Was told 32 minutes ago that my estimated wait time was 5 min. Hoping the sympathy ploy may work. But, gotta get thru 1st.
Frank
Penn always available? They can't provide parts for SpinfisherV's anymore. Pure fishing dumped the old Ambassadeur parts and I wouldn't expect they'll let Penn have much inventory either.
Quote from: 0119 on April 19, 2024, 05:34:35 PMPenn always available? They can't provide parts for SpinfisherV's anymore. Pure fishing dumped the old Ambassadeur parts and I wouldn't expect they'll let Penn have much inventory either.
I've got a big bin of spinfisherV parts not doing me much good. If mystic doesn't have what you need, I might.
Never got thru to Shimano on 1st call after 40 + min. Tried again the next day; got thru after short wait, only to find out they have no parts of any kind for the reel (Shimano MLX 300) I have. Will try to make a needed bail spring for the "never fail bail" with the "unbreakable" bail spring.
Frank
Quote from: happyhooker on April 19, 2024, 09:41:16 PMNever got thru to Shimano on 1st call after 40 + min. Tried again the next day; got thru after short wait, only to find out they have no parts of any kind for the reel (Shimano MLX 300) I have. Will try to make a needed bail spring for the "never fail bail" with the "unbreakable" bail spring.
Frank
I mean that model is, give or take, 43 years old. How long is reasonable for a brand to keep parts for?
Quote from: boon on April 29, 2024, 10:24:10 PMQuote from: happyhooker on April 19, 2024, 09:41:16 PMNever got thru to Shimano on 1st call after 40 + min. Tried again the next day; got thru after short wait, only to find out they have no parts of any kind for the reel (Shimano MLX 300) I have. Will try to make a needed bail spring for the "never fail bail" with the "unbreakable" bail spring.
Frank
I mean that model is, give or take, 43 years old. How long is reasonable for a brand to keep parts for?
How about a 2 year old Shimano Twin Power 8000 - parts discontinued!
Quote from: boon on April 29, 2024, 10:24:10 PMQuote from: happyhooker on April 19, 2024, 09:41:16 PMNever got thru to Shimano on 1st call after 40 + min. Tried again the next day; got thru after short wait, only to find out they have no parts of any kind for the reel (Shimano MLX 300) I have. Will try to make a needed bail spring for the "never fail bail" with the "unbreakable" bail spring.
Frank
I mean that model is, give or take, 43 years old. How long is reasonable for a brand to keep parts for?
I dunno. They advertised it as having a "never fail bail", so the obvious answer is as long as there is any demand.
Frank
Quote from: Reeltyme on April 29, 2024, 11:24:26 PMHow about a 2 year old Shimano Twin Power 8000 - parts discontinued!
Seems really odd, what model Twin Power and when?
Quote from: happyhooker on April 30, 2024, 01:22:32 AMQuote from: boon on April 29, 2024, 10:24:10 PMI mean that model is, give or take, 43 years old. How long is reasonable for a brand to keep parts for?
I dunno. They advertised it as having a "never fail bail", so the obvious answer is as long as there is any demand.
Frank
I think we have different levels of "reasonable". My version doesn't extend to a manufacturer maintaining a functionally indefinite inventory of parts just in case someone out there is still using a reel they haven't produced for 3 decades... especially when it's a reel that was $25 new.
Quote from: boon on April 30, 2024, 04:20:47 AMQuote from: Reeltyme on April 29, 2024, 11:24:26 PMHow about a 2 year old Shimano Twin Power 8000 - parts discontinued!
Seems really odd, what model Twin Power and when?
It was a service job I did for a customer last year. He has 4 of the same reel. I contacted Shimano direct and first they asked "where did I get the reel" and then informed me it was not supported and parts were discontinued and unavailable. Thanks to Dave's in Tampa, I was able to find comparable parts for repair. This experience just reinforced my dislike for Shimano.
Quote from: happyhooker on April 30, 2024, 01:22:32 AMQuote from: boon on April 29, 2024, 10:24:10 PMI mean that model is, give or take, 43 years old. How long is reasonable for a brand to keep parts for?
I dunno. They advertised it as having a "never fail bail", so the obvious answer is as long as there is any demand.
Frank
I think we have different levels of "reasonable". My version doesn't extend to a manufacturer maintaining a functionally indefinite inventory of parts just in case someone out there is still using a reel they haven't produced for 3 decades... especially when it's a reel that was $25 new.
Quote from: Reeltyme on April 30, 2024, 09:12:41 AMIt was a service job I did for a customer last year. He has 4 of the same reel. I contacted Shimano direct and first they asked "where did I get the reel" and then informed me it was not supported and parts were discontinued and unavailable. Thanks to Dave's in Tampa, I was able to find comparable parts for repair. This experience just reinforced my dislike for Shimano.
But definitely reinforces my fondness for Dave's in Tampa.
Quote from: 0119 on April 19, 2024, 05:34:35 PMThey can't provide parts for Spinfisher V's anymore.
News to me. But what do I know.
tony (Parts and Service Manager)