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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn - Vintage => Topic started by: basto on November 23, 2016, 08:44:07 PM

Title: Handles with letter designations
Post by: basto on November 23, 2016, 08:44:07 PM
I have a 155 that has the letter B stamped on the inside of the handle blade. Is this for Beachmaster?
thanks
Basto
Title: Handles
Post by: Bill B on November 25, 2016, 10:18:42 PM
Basto, i believe the "B" stamped on your handle is the type or style of the handle....this link will take you to Scott's Bait and Tackle with a description of the handle types literally A to Z and a list of what they will fit....according to the gear sleeve....Bill


https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Handles.aspx (https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Handles.aspx)


"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"
Title: Handles
Post by: basto on November 25, 2016, 10:45:44 PM
Hi Bill
Thanks for your reply. Much appreciated.
Greg
Title: Handles
Post by: basto on November 25, 2016, 11:20:54 PM
Hi again Bill
Just looked on Scotts and it says it is an "A" type handle
I have this B on the handle of my 259 also.
cheers
Greg

(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a601/george8322/handle%20155_zpsyidwwzsw.jpg)
Title: Handles
Post by: Bill B on November 25, 2016, 11:29:58 PM
Hmmmm....and I thought I had this nailed  :P.....sorry to mislead you brother....hopefully someone will clear this up for us....Bill
Title: Handles
Post by: RowdyW on November 25, 2016, 11:30:15 PM
Maybe someone stamped it with their inital to tell it from others in a group on a pier or boat. Other then that I don't think it means anything.
Title: Handles
Post by: sdlehr on November 25, 2016, 11:40:02 PM
Quote from: RowdyW on November 25, 2016, 11:30:15 PM
Maybe someone stamped it with their inital to tell it from others in a group on a pier or boat. Other then that I don't think it means anything.
Don't think so Rudy, I've seen this before - pretty sure I have one, but I'm not home to be able to check.

Sid
Title: Handles
Post by: Bill B on November 26, 2016, 12:00:43 AM
I have a few reels, usually the older ones with a letter stamp, and ####-u-me-d   >:(    this was the Penn Letter designation......back to the drawing board....Bill
Title: Handles
Post by: Penn Chronology on November 26, 2016, 01:29:57 AM
I someone figures out what the "B" means I will be happy. I have never known and always wondered about it.
Title: Re: Handles
Post by: sdlehr on November 26, 2016, 01:45:02 AM
Can we get some pictures of more handles with this "B" designation? How about other letter designations that anyone may have lying on their bench or in their collection? Maybe we can put our heads together and figure out the logic here and make Mike happy before Christmas :)

Sid
Title: Re: Handles with letter designations
Post by: Bryan Young on November 26, 2016, 04:15:08 AM
It stands for Bryan. The greatest wanna be fisherman in the world. 😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Handles
Post by: mizmo67 on November 26, 2016, 04:05:52 PM
Quote from: TARFU on November 25, 2016, 10:18:42 PM
Basto, i believe the "B" stamped on your handle is the type or style of the handle....this link will take you to Scott's Bait and Tackle with a description of the handle types literally A to Z and a list of what they will fit....according to the gear sleeve....Bill

https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Handles.aspx (https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Handles.aspx)

Bill...our handle types are OUR work, not Penn's
We had so many people asking about swapping handles that we made a compatibility table and chose to assign letters for the different types/shapes.
Title: Re: Handles with letter designations
Post by: Bill B on November 26, 2016, 05:26:03 PM
Mo thank you for the clarification, this closes one part of this mystery, now off to check my other reels......Bill
Title: Re: Handles with letter designations
Post by: basto on November 26, 2016, 08:32:17 PM
I should mention the two reels I have with the B are both 24-155 handles. One on a 259 long beach and the other on a 155 Beachmaster.
Basto
Title: Re: Handles with letter designations
Post by: Bill B on November 26, 2016, 09:45:08 PM
I checked some of my reels, will be able to check the rest when I return to Sacramento, results are as follows:

2 Jigmaster 500, first generation have 24-66 handles with no letter designation
1 259 live bait caster has 24-155 with a "S" designation

No power handles have a letter designation, which include 113 Senator (posts), 112H, 113H (half frame), 114HLW (full frame), 49 Deep Sea.

What I can conclude so far:
The JM's are early first generation which started in 1959, denoted by the plastic maroon spools, maroon side plates and posts (no spacer bars)
The 259 ended in 1957, so it is a 1957 or older model

I will be able to check a Squidder 140, Surfmaster 200, Beachmaster 155, Delmar 285, and 349, when I return.....Bill
Title: Re: Handles with letter designations
Post by: Maxed Out on November 27, 2016, 01:20:43 AM
Quote from: TARFU on November 26, 2016, 09:45:08 PM
I checked some of my reels, will be able to check the rest when I return to Sacramento, results are as follows:

2 Jigmaster 500, first generation have 24-66 handles with no letter designation
1 259 live bait caster has 24-155 with a "S" designation

No power handles have a letter designation, which include 113 Senator (posts), 112H, 113H (half frame), 114HLW (full frame), 49 Deep Sea.

What I can conclude so far:
The JM's are early first generation which started in 1959, denoted by the plastic maroon spools, maroon side plates and posts (no spacer bars)
The 259 ended in 1957, so it is a 1957 or older model

I will be able to check a Squidder 140, Surfmaster 200, Beachmaster 155, Delmar 285, and 349, when I return.....Bill


I don't want to double post, but I did put up my take on the "B" handles here, then Sid moved the conversation to the 155 thread where nobody is seeing this same discussion

 That's where you will find my reply to this thread that was originally on this page.....geeesh :D :D

  Ted
Title: Re: Handles with letter designations
Post by: Penn Chronology on November 28, 2016, 07:31:52 AM
Since Ted does not want to double post, I will do it for him.

QuoteMike, Sid & Basto, here is my take: These handles were the very beginning of the new part number system and stamping numbers onto the part(Late 1940's era). I've seen dozens of the B or S stamped handles and one thing I found they all had in common was 1949-1950 era, and the "tumbled" finish. Those B handles can be found on the less expensive Penns like long beach, Delmar, 155, some 259's and a few others. I've yet to find a B handle on a small senator from same era, and I've yet to find a polished handle with the B stamping.

I may be all wrong, and in that case, please forget I ever mentioned anything Grin Grin

Interesting thoughts on a fairly impossible question. If I can ever prove you wrong, I will forget you ever said anything! ;D
Title: Re: Handles with letter designations
Post by: George4741 on June 18, 2017, 02:46:21 PM
My Sea Ford has a "V" stamped on the counterweight and twice in the reel foot.   I initially thought it was how one of the tackle rental shops identified their reels. ???

Title: Re: Handles with letter designations
Post by: Penn Chronology on June 21, 2017, 05:27:24 AM
QuoteMy Sea Ford has a "V" stamped on the counterweight and twice in the reel foot.   I initially thought it was how one of the tackle rental shops identified their reels. Huh?

That could be the answer. So many Penn reels got marked up. I think it was a habit brought over from the Depression. Marking your tools was like putting a brand on them. I suspect many people did that.
Title: Re: Handles with letter designations
Post by: JRD on July 18, 2017, 04:00:58 AM
So here is a 24-160 off of a surfmaster 100 with an "S"