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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn - Vintage => Topic started by: Decker on November 30, 2017, 10:06:13 PM

Title: If 6 was 9
Post by: Decker on November 30, 2017, 10:06:13 PM
Quote from: Gfish on November 30, 2017, 09:42:03 PM

So, the box arrived, but it's waitin for you? Or, did it not arrive yet?, 'cause I mighta tossed the reciept with the shipping # on it.

No, no... I told you I would send you something, but I didn't send it yet.

Quote from: Gfish on November 30, 2017, 09:42:03 PM

Yeah, and now ta figure out the orgin of the posts, 99's?


Scott's shows 37-65 as the post for 99 and 66.  I think the 37-160 (for 145, 150, etc.) might also fit.

Hey Ted, I think I have a name for your reel:  "If 6 Was 9"   :D  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZuFq4CfRR8
Title: If 6 was 9
Post by: Gfish on November 30, 2017, 11:11:56 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot. Cool!

Just occurred to me, gotta mark those two go-nowhere-screwheads or fer sher, I'mna forget and start unscrewin 'em, busting out the glue, next time I split 'er open.
Gfish

Man whata downer ending that movie had, huh?
Gfish
Title: If 6 was 9
Post by: Swami805 on December 01, 2017, 01:32:08 AM
That was a bummer at the end but it made a point that's still relevant today.
My Mom made a needle point pillow with a picture of Peter Fondas chopper on it for me. Not something you see everyday like "home sweet home".
That's quite the reel you've built, great job. Need a couple fish pictures to go with it now.
Title: If 6 was 9
Post by: Maxed Out on December 03, 2017, 11:33:27 PM
 Yes it is a 99 seat I used, but the holes don't quite jive. If anyone is interested in how I did it I can post a couple pics later this week

  P.S. I love Jimmy Hendrix ...Humble and Very talented ....He was left handed and played a right handed guitar upside down, cause that's how he taught himself
 
   -Ted
Title: If 6 was 9
Post by: sdlehr on December 04, 2017, 01:45:53 PM
Quote from: Maxed Out on December 03, 2017, 11:33:27 PM
 P.S. I love Jimmy Hendrix ...Humble and Very talented ....He was left handed and played a right handed guitar upside down, cause that's how he taught himself
 
   -Ted
I'm also a Hendrix fan. I believe he actually re-strung his right-handed guitar with a left-handed orientation so he could play left-handed, but it was a right-handed guitar as Ted said. There are also reports that he first learned the guitar right-handed as required by his father. Somewhere along the line he switched to left-handed guitars and playing. It's all documented here (http://www.popularmechanics.com/culture/music/a17922/jimi-hendrix-backwards-stratocaster/)
Title: If 6 was 9
Post by: Decker on December 04, 2017, 01:57:27 PM
I think I got a bit carried away in my postings....   Daron's latest Everol sparked something ::)  

The whole franken-reel thing has captured my imagination.  Designing one provides a right-brain/left-brain exercise.  Although the choices are somewhat limited, it is fun to (re)discover new ways of putting reels together.  I've taken a liking to the mid-size reels, including the Squidder 145, Jigmaster 99, Surfmaster 150, Silver Beach 99.  One of the first things I learned was that several of these share the 30-66 base plate, and I like the irony of building a 99 Jigmaster with a 66 base plate.  The newer 66 bases come in stainless steel, which is a plus too.  

The tech guy in me wants to put together a franken-reel app that gives cross-references parts to different reel configurations.  Scott's site already does that with individual parts, and I have been using that constantly to learn about all of the interchangeability of Penn parts.   I'm thinking of going to the next step... making the franken-reel knowledge base from this site available to members interested in building their own unique reels from stock parts.  

Ted, thanks for sharing the depth of your knowledge and experience.  I'd really like to know more about how you put that reel together; probably it deserves its own thread (maybe there already is one?),  but whatever you are comfortable with... Thanks.
Title: If 6 was 9
Post by: Decker on December 04, 2017, 02:09:15 PM
Quote from: sdlehr on December 04, 2017, 01:45:53 PMI'm also a Hendrix fan. I believe he actually re-strung his right-handed guitar with a left-handed orientation so he could play left-handed, but it was a right-handed guitar as Ted said. There are also reports that he first learned the guitar right-handed as required by his father. Somewhere along the line he switched to left-handed guitars and playing. It's all documented here (http://www.popularmechanics.com/culture/music/a17922/jimi-hendrix-backwards-stratocaster/)

Interesting... I'm a lefty who plays guitar right-handed, which works out fine,  but I feel limited in certain ways.  I can never get any good at finger-picking, for example.  I work in IT but majored in art, and have always been on the fence in the right/left brain orientation, but definitely lean right.
Title: If 6 was 9
Post by: Swami805 on December 04, 2017, 03:08:21 PM
Ringo Starr also grew up poor and learned drums banging on a cookie tin in a sanitarium when he was a kid with TB or something. His first drum kit was right handed that he played lefty. He had a unique sound many drummers tried to copy early on.
Hendrix had a unique style that many tryed to emulate but truely one of a kind. No telling what he would have accomplished if he had lived
Sorry for the tread jack
Title: If 6 was 9
Post by: Decker on December 04, 2017, 03:36:23 PM
Yes, this is a thread-jack -- par for the course at AT.com.  ::) If no one objects, I will split this off to a new thread where we started to talk about Hendrix.
Title: Re: If 6 was 9
Post by: thorhammer on December 04, 2017, 04:10:16 PM
Joe Walsh and Ringo are married to sisters.
Title: Re: If 6 was 9
Post by: sdlehr on December 04, 2017, 06:00:46 PM
Quote from: thorhammer on December 04, 2017, 04:10:16 PM
Joe Walsh and Ringo are married to sisters.
Are the wives sisters to each other? That would make it more interesting :)  
Title: Re: If 6 was 9
Post by: Decker on December 04, 2017, 06:24:42 PM
Quote from: sdlehr on December 04, 2017, 06:00:46 PM
Quote from: thorhammer on December 04, 2017, 04:10:16 PM
Joe Walsh and Ringo are married to sisters.
Are the wives sisters to each other? That would make it more interesting :)  
Actually, they are both ex-nuns ;D
Title: Re: If 6 was 9
Post by: Maxed Out on December 04, 2017, 06:31:18 PM
 We need a link to Jimmy Hendrix playing the star spangled banner at Woodstock......Absolutely amazing rendition !!

  ......and if'n your looking for another "99" build.......how bout a 1/0 with 66 seat and bars, and 99 spool  ;D
Title: Re: If 6 was 9
Post by: Decker on December 04, 2017, 06:56:04 PM
Quote from: Maxed Out on December 04, 2017, 06:31:18 PM
......and if'n your looking for another "99" build.......how bout a 1/0 with 66 seat and bars, and 99 spool  ;D

SWEEET, Ted...  I just don't know if I could bring myself to cannibalize a minty 1/0.

What do you think about the idea of cataloging franken-reels for the site?   Does it defeat the purpose?   I'd like to put together some kind of Penn reel "cookbook."  It would include inventor attributions, options, links to posts and photos, etc.

/Joe
Title: Re: If 6 was 9
Post by: Swami805 on December 04, 2017, 09:15:02 PM
Boy that would be a ton of information but it would be great in one place. How to do it and navigate it would be the hard part I think.
Wasn't Ringo married to that good looking bond girl. I think she was in Moonraker? With that big dude Jaws? Jacking away!
Title: Re: If 6 was 9
Post by: Gfish on December 04, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
Quote from: Decker on December 04, 2017, 06:56:04 PM
Quote from: Maxed Out on December 04, 2017, 06:31:18 PM
......and if'n your looking for another "99" build.......how bout a 1/0 with 66 seat and bars, and 99 spool  ;D

SWEEET, Ted...  I just don't know if I could bring myself to cannibalize a minty 1/0.

What do you think about the idea of cataloging franken-reels for the site?   Does it defeat the purpose?   I'd like to put together some kind of Penn reel "cookbook."  It would include inventor attributions, options, links to posts and photos, etc.

/Joe

I think this's a great idea Joe. I had no idea before this thread about the 99 - 66 thing. For persons such as myself that have a limited number of parts, it would bea great reference tool.
Title: Re: If 6 was 9
Post by: sdlehr on December 04, 2017, 10:59:15 PM
I also think it's a great idea, Joe. It's a lot of information - lengths, widths, spool spindle sizes also vary but you may choose to limit the first edition to a single spool spindle size. Bushings, bearings, it's doable but more complicated than my non-coding brain can ponder. You, however, with the ambidextrous brain should have no trouble with it :)
Title: Re: If 6 was 9
Post by: Maxed Out on December 05, 2017, 01:29:43 AM
 I learned all my tricks on this forum. In other words, all the interchange info is already here. Every reel possible has already been made into 99 width many moons ago by forum members. Searching for those threads is half of the fun !!

 Ted
Title: Re: If 6 was 9
Post by: Shark Hunter on December 05, 2017, 01:37:46 AM
Ted,
You are a Machine!
https://youtu.be/MKvnQYFhGCc
Title: Re: If 6 was 9
Post by: Decker on December 05, 2017, 01:59:47 AM
Quote from: Maxed Out on December 05, 2017, 01:29:43 AM
I learned all my tricks on this forum. In other words, all the interchange info is already here. Every reel possible has already been made into 99 width many moons ago by forum members. Searching for those threads is half of the fun !!

Yeah, I see your point, Ted, but I'm feeling a match like Gary Kasparov versus Big Blue, John Henry versus the steam drill, or  Stevie Ray Vaughn on stage with Jimi.   ;D ;D ;D  You would win, but it would be fun to compete.

But seriously, just something of an index and guide, with proper attributions, of course. Something that works for, not against, the site as it is.  For now I'm abusing the hospitality of Scott's and not buying much.
Title: Re: If 6 was 9
Post by: Maxed Out on December 05, 2017, 02:12:15 AM

Thanks Daron, you rock !!  8) 8)
Title: Re: If 6 was 9
Post by: Decker on December 05, 2017, 08:23:27 PM
I'm hooked.   I've been thinking about how impractical it is for me to get so involved in these reels, yet... I'm sure I want to do it.   

About franken-reels...   It starts with a focused intention to build a nice-looking, strong reel, for a specific fishing application, and largely based on the serious work that has been done before by Sal, Ted, Bryan, Alan, and many others.  You know the drill... the SS sleeve, the drags, the frame, the spool, the handle & arm.   If I think about actual fishing, I really don't give a damn for the looks, though there needs to be an intrinsic aesthetic and strength to the build.  Conversely, thinking about what I want to post on the site, I'm looking some kind of macho bling.  Shiny metals, structure, color, etc. It has to catch fishermen as much as fish.

I've got around six or so reels in progress at this point and have posted none of them.   Someone told me a long time ago that my outlook on life is such that I get much more satisfaction from imagining and designing things than from actually accomplishing them.   Once it is done, the dream is over, in a sense.  That said, as I slowly accumulate parts for my various project reels, I find my imagination going in various tangents about their designs.  While it is entirely possible that many of my project reels will never be finished, I see that I'm actually building a kind of toy chest of parts with potential for a large variety of configurations.   Maybe I'll build some of these reels just to document and photograph.  Shortly after, maybe I'll disassemble them to use the parts again; I don't like the idea of "shelf queens."   Boat rash is a badge of honor, but my boat time is limited.  The franken-reel "cookbook" database idea fits into my approach to exploring reel building, and also making a contribution to the site for those who share the interest.

Of course, like Ted has said, there are a finite number of possible configurations, and most have already been done by site members.  I expect that at some point I'll reach the end of this and move onto something else.  However,  possibilities of going deeper do exist.  The idea of getting three-dimensional printing into this whole scene seems intriguing, and that could go on for a long time.   I hope that somehow this venture results in more fishing, because that is the true intention; reel building is just a side-show.   It seems to be working in that regard, though slowly. 

Am I crazy?  Somehow remembering Hendrix songs fuels this.

And so castles made of sand fall in the sea, eventually.