Hello guys, today I decided to upgrade a Penn Surfmaster 100.
Here are the parts that I will be installing, including a nice Tiburon topless ice blue frame
(https://i.imgur.com/zh5njA2.jpg)
the parts on this reel look new, but I'm still going to change the bridge plate...chomed parts look so much better,
the brass gear wiil also be replaced with steel gears. Let's not forget Lee's ss dog.
(https://i.imgur.com/apOblGn.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JP1kbCS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/63iNPUZ.jpg)
I will also be replacing these slotted screws with stainless steel screws, I'm sure some of you know that those slotted screws can be a pain to work with
(https://i.imgur.com/Qm9JQ6g.jpg)
and here are the phillips head ss screws
(https://i.imgur.com/Iu8T5PM.jpg)
Left side plate also gets ss screws
(https://i.imgur.com/abHYp20.jpg)
when upgrading to a larger handle, I also like to replace the 10-60 star with the 10-66, it's just a little larger
(https://i.imgur.com/a3uVFX5.jpg)
and the handle
(https://i.imgur.com/VoZ9IVl.jpg)
and here is the finished reel
(https://i.imgur.com/tqFIC7N.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vt4abFY.jpg)
I believe it's fit for the job, but we'll see. I'm not taking this ice blue one, I'll try this one
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/my%20custom%20reels/038-1.jpg)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/my%20custom%20reels/043-1.jpg).
Enjoy!
Sal
Alan, you wanted me to check the sleeves out and I told you that the one with the insert (fine thread) could use the pin hole about 1/32 higher, I'm also showing that in one of the shot above. I had no idea that the others were already drilled twice and fixed, I just noticed it, as I was using it. I really like the way those fit, no slop with the handle whatsoever....good job!
That's a cute purdy reel for a manly guy like you. :)
They make good albacore live bait and swimbait reels.
As usual great job Sal. Lee interesting "molon Labe" is new in your signature. The amount of knowledge on this site is amazing. Lee is into ancient greek also. I think he's eating too much lamb. :D Dominick
The reel came out nice, I like the colors & the shine. You should have fun with the Blues with that set up. I use about the same size reels, either the Newell 322 or the 501 Penn if I ever do them. Most Blues last year were 10# + all season.
Great looking reel, Sal. As strong as it is purty. Bob
Thanks guys!
Mike, I've been fishing those for many years, close to 40. I usually have a couple of Jigmasters and ss spinners on the boat, my largest was a 44" and very close in its weight, I think I have a picture of it somewhere on here. This reel is very close to the Squidder, with bushings instead of bearings, you already know how I feel about bushings vs bearings. The squidder does have a beefier spool shaft and outer rings, but it also has some senseless parts in handle side plate, that snap off pretty easily, one of my reasons why I don't like those. This Surfmaster will be the smallest that I have ever used on those. Yes, I do believe it can hold its own, especially with all the goodies in there. As you already know, Stripers usually don't fight much, but Blues will give you a workout.
A Blue almost took the tip of my thumb once, I had teeth marks on it for over two years.
I often wonder what would happen if a school of Piranhas would run in a school of Blues :-\...would love to see it ;D
I have gone as small as a 9M or a Green 26 for Blues. On a private boat you can do anything. Not on a Open Boat.
Nice work as usual Sal. Did you have to trim the spacing sleeve to accommodate the 1/2 mm thicker 10-66 star? BTW the 10-505 fine thread star is the same thickness as the 10-60 and would go well with a fine threaded sleeve on this reel.
Get yourself a Quick-Wedge screwdriver,one of the most useful tools in my toolbox.Ref attached link.
http://www.newmantools.com/kedman.htm
Quote from: bluefish69 on February 09, 2013, 04:03:23 PM
I have gone as small as a 9M or a Green 26 for Blues. On a private boat you can do anything. Not on a Open Boat.
I'm surprised they would actually use a 9 reel for blues :-\. I've seen a few down my way use 209 and 309, but the remove the Level winder.
That was on my boat way back when. They would shoot me trying to use a 9M with 40+ passengers on board. They passed comments about me using a P235 but I used it all season anyway.
Quote from: Irish Jigger on February 09, 2013, 04:08:54 PM
Nice work as usual Sal. Did you have to trim the spacing sleeve to accommodate the 1/2 mm thicker 10-66 star? BTW the 10-505 fine thread star is the same thickness as the 10-60 and would go well with a fine threaded sleeve on this reel.
Get yourself a Quick-Wedge screwdriver,one of the most useful tools in my toolbox.Ref attached link.
http://www.newmantools.com/kedman.htm
Thanks Tom. No, didn't need to do any trimming to the spacer. I do hit the sleeve on the grinder, when i need to. Drag setting on all of my reels start soft, just the way I like them.
Thanks for the tip on the screwdriver, one of my brothers is an electrician and I remember him using one of those, but never gave it a thought.
Yes I know about the 505 and already have one set up that way, i prefer coars threads on mine though.
The ss screws is a very good upgrade on these. You know, this guy from Northern Ireland had to show me where to get those in my neck of the woods ;D
Thanks again Tom, I will order that screwdriver ;)
Thank's Sal, neat idea changing those brass 5-40 slotted screws to Philips stainless steel,stronger and much easier to work with. Four little cardboard boxes on your work bench look familiar. ;)
For UK guys wanting McMaster Carr parts,this UK company can get them for you.
http://www.protectivesupplies.com/procurementinternational.html
Sal, Is that stainless main gear aftermarket? If it is not,which models come with them?
Those are stock gears from Penn. The Surfmaster was discontinued around the year 2000. I can't tell you when penn replaced the steel with brass, if I had to guess, I would say during the mid 80's. Either way, the steel gears are much stronger than brass. I tried to get those older gears to rust and wasn't able to :-\.
Sal
Thanks Sal. :)
Sal, nice work! Did Penn make any Phillips head screws replacements for Squidders and Jigmasters too? Also, I bought an old Squidder with an old stainless gear, it looked and felt like a very low quality stainless at best. Did you notice that in the old squidders? That stock stainless you have pictured looks much better. It was a 1980s Squidder 140 with black sideplates.
SNAPPERHEAD
Hello Snapperhead, as for the Phillips screws, no I don't believe they did. You will be ok with your gear, just brush a light coat of grease all over it.
If you're looking for those screws, try MCMaster-Carr.
Sal
Some penn reels did have Philips heads, but I couldn't tell you which ones.
I have seen them on some Long Beach and Delmar models.
Hi Sal Very nice job and nice little reel. I like the surfmasters myself simpler and just as durable as the squidders. I noticed in your pictures you had 2 dog springs ,did you use both or was one a spare just in case? I have a problem with these flat dog springs , I guess my hands are not as steady as they used to be and these little reels have a very small space to play around in. Doug
No Doug, just one. Try keeping the spring straight and bend it as you set it in, this will give it more tension and stay in place for you.
By the way, I do have one of those 100's with the double dogs, it doesn't need it but I just had to. ;)
Snapperhead, I probably didn't get your question.
If you're talking about the inner right side ring on the Jigmaster and Squidder, then no, I have never seen those Philips screws.
If you're talking about plates,then yes, I have seen Philips screws. I believe some of the made in China reels Have them.
Accurate also had Philips head screws for their Accuframes for the larger Senators.
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 10, 2013, 08:17:07 PM
No Doug, just one. Try keeping the spring straight and bend it as you set it in, this will give it more tension and stay in place for you.
By the way, I do have one of those 100's with the double dogs, it doesn't need it but I just had to. ;)
Snapperhead, I probably didn't get your question.
If you're talking about the inner right side ring on the Jigmaster and Squidder, then no, I have never seen those Philips screws.
If you're talking about plates,then yes, I have seen Philips screws. I believe some of the made in China reels Have them.
Accurate also had Philips head screws for their Accuframes for the larger Senators.
Sal
You answered it before. I will look on the website you mentioned. Thank you for the help.
Ben
Sal Thanks for the response. Just as an aside these reels especially the 100 are great for drifting baits for strippers. I use mine all the time at night drifting clams ,worms, sometimes live eels up to the task and alot of fun. I have used it for bluefish ( not a jigging reel too slow) at night dfirting bunker chuncks again a lot of fun but as you know blue fish can knock the heck out of most tackle. I like a 501 better but if you use the 100 better bring an extra spool full of line you might need it the 100 dosen't hold very much , Would love to see pictures of a doubbled dog 100 Doug
Sal, you never cease to amaze. With all of the neat stuff you did to your 100, I think it might balance out my totally stock one. ;D ;D
Rob
I love the 100!!
Lee,
How would you rate the 100? I have mine spooled with 20# mono and plan to use it for bottom fishing up to 100 feet. What do you use yours for and what max rated line?
(Your 49L is going out today.)
Quote from: Keta on April 11, 2013, 04:56:36 PM
I love the 100!!
Lee, you're talking too loud ;)
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 11, 2013, 07:11:45 PM
Lee, you're talking too loud ;)
;D
Quote from: Norcal Pescador on April 11, 2013, 06:54:01 PM
Lee,
How would you rate the 100? I have mine spooled with 20# mono and plan to use it for bottom fishing up to 100 feet. What do you use yours for and what max rated line?
I use mine for salmon trolling, makanaw and inshore rockfish. I have mine filled with Power Pro hollow 40lb and JB hollow 60lb because I have a lot of it but fish it with 30lb topshots.
Great job Sal - I always look forward to your posts.
Cheers, Justin
I love those surfmasters. Such a perfect size. Now, why won't Penn make something like that again?
hey all,
there's a used surf master 100 in a local shop here... what's a fair price for one in good-verygood condition with 3/4 spool of 30-40lb power pro?
i'd really like to have it, but the guy may think it's a valuable collectable and has priced it accordingly... close to $80 US!
like to know your guys thoughts.
Thanks
erik
I try not to go over $50 on those, in great shape. I would gladly pay $80 for a new one.
Sal
Thanks Sal ! I was in a hurry so didn't check it that closely, but it felt nice in my hand!
Appreciate your perspective...as always ;)
Bula Sal,
heh,heh, i'd forgotten about this thread ???
I scored that Surfmaster for $35 bucks this week... fijian dollars!
My good buddy let it go cheap, he knows i like old penns.
The beauty is now I thnk there's room for a Tib frame in the budget!
any more ice blue ones around? ;D
Cheers bro
Erik
Hey Erik.
Don't follow my lead, I have expensive taste ;D
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ice-Blue-Tiburon-P16-Reel-Frame-Penn-Squidder-Jr-146-Monofil-27-Beachmaster-100-/121164030025?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c35f06049
Quote from: Alto Mare on August 31, 2013, 12:50:03 AM
Hey Erik.
Don't follow my lead, I have expensive taste ;D
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ice-Blue-Tiburon-P16-Reel-Frame-Penn-Squidder-Jr-146-Monofil-27-Beachmaster-100-/121164030025?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c35f06049
yeah, but class Sal...class !
i'll see if I can pickup a ss sleeve from Alan... Scott's doesn't list the gear sleeve separately, or Alan's ss one either ???
is it same as a squidder or jigmaster?
and darn, that P16 is 4 times more than I paid for the reel!... you do have expensive taste!
Later buddy
Erik, you'll need 98 -155AT coarse tooth. Check with Bryan, he might be able to help, I believe Alan is still busy pulling cows to the boat ;D.
You do not need to have the frame, the reel should do just fine without it.....but they do look sweet ;D .
If you didn't need to have blue, you could save yourself around $10 and if you mention my name, there is a slight chance that you could get another $5 off.
Sal, I think your reel is going to have a fijian twin soon... ;D
I'll check with Bryan....
Thanks!
Bula Erik. What you need. I may have it. :)
Quote from: Alto Mare on August 31, 2013, 02:21:49 AM
and if you mention my name, there is a slight chance that you could get another $5 off.
Bula Sal,
just wanted to let you know your surfmaster's twin will be coming soon. ;)
Thanks for putting me in touch with Gregg. He's a cool guy.
However, I tried dropping your name and here's the response I got:
"Hello Erik, Thanks for contacting me!
The Sal "discount" is an additional 20% tacked on, you sure you want that?"
I see Gregg takes pretty good care of you !
.... Vinaka Sal ! ;D ;D
Quote from: erikpowell on November 20, 2013, 10:41:17 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on August 31, 2013, 02:21:49 AM
and if you mention my name, there is a slight chance that you could get another $5 off.
Bula Sal,
just wanted to let you know your surfmaster's twin will be coming soon. ;)
Thanks for putting me in touch with Gregg. He's a cool guy.
However, I tried dropping your name and here's the response I got:
"Hello Erik, Thanks for contacting me!
The Sal "discount" is an additional 20% tacked on, you sure you want that?"
I see Gregg takes pretty good care of you !
.... Vinaka Sal ! ;D ;D
I wouldn't be surprised if he did, I haven't been talking nicely about Tiburon lately, sorry I tell it like I see it.
I know he's watching me.....Hi Gregg.
He's still a very nice guy ;).
Later buddy.
Sal
Bula Sal,
any idea where I can get the steel gears for my 100 and how much it would set me back?
Thanks
Erik stainless steel gears are not available, but if you meant plain steel, I could spare just one.
Send me your email through my PM and I'll get it out to you.
Lee is making me some inserts, to most it doesn't make sense, but I want some.
Don't forget, when your done with the twin, there is another a little larger waiting ;)
(http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t646/pescatore2/002_zps0d2d74af.jpg) (http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/pescatore2/media/002_zps0d2d74af.jpg.html)
(http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t646/pescatore2/004_zps161adeed.jpg) (http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/pescatore2/media/004_zps161adeed.jpg.html)
;D ;D.
Eric, I've scrounged them out of older Penn 60's
I just put a black Tib frame on one of my Surfmaster 100s. The next one will have a Newell base once I locate one.
Awesome Sal !
"Don't forget, when your done with the twin, there is another a little larger waiting Wink"
;) Ahhh, you are correct Sal-hoppa... there is one smaller than this:
(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q680/fijigreen69/SANY0247_zps3cb599df.jpg) (http://s1353.photobucket.com/user/fijigreen69/media/SANY0247_zps3cb599df.jpg.html)
(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q680/fijigreen69/SANY0248_zpsba8776eb.jpg) (http://s1353.photobucket.com/user/fijigreen69/media/SANY0248_zpsba8776eb.jpg.html)
it's awaiting passage of the 2014 Budget
My Fish & Game Dept. has requested funding for an additional T3N Tank ;D ;D ;D
pm sent buddy... many Thanks!
and Lee, parts received! many Tanks to you too!. As soon as my buddy forwards it all over to me, that Salinized surfmaster is hitting the water!
I picked it up already spooled with 20lb powerpro :D ..so I'll fish it with a little 30lb flouro and see how the thinner line goes
I still need to hook up with Alan or Bryan for that 98-155 ss sleeve, and I think i already have a bigger star to fit it.
Vinaka vaka levu you guys (many big thanks)
Erik
;D, that's one gorgeous reel Erik ;).
I will put that gear in the mail.
I have a bunch of main gears for different reels, but no pinions. Penn never sold those as sets, as Newell and Accurate did, you will be ok using your pinion.
Thanks Sal ;)..... remember, you sent me the thin underwear washer for that ;D
the 113H was a gift along with a matching 112H from an old family friend.
Alan supplied the T4Nk, s.s.sleeve, handle & arm .... Lee's dogs and BP's gears will be coming over with the gear you sent me.
So it shouldn't be too long before I have another Salinized reel to show off! Thanks again buddy ;)
Quote from: Keta on November 27, 2013, 02:18:43 AM
Eric, I've scrounged them out of older Penn 60's
I just put a black Tib frame on one of my Surfmaster 100s. The next one will have a Newell base once I locate one.
Lee, are your drags still stock or have you guys managed to 5 stack or hex these? ;)
Erik, if your friend would open that envelope hat I sent you, he might be able to answer that question ;).
;D ;D ;D Ok Sal!
You're a gentleman and a scholar mate!
"Antici-pation" ..... Annn-ti-ci-pay-yay-tion ...... iii-it's makin me wait..." ;D
i gotta make a call....
I sent a 5-60 adapter too.
;D ;D Boom ! I just re-read and noticed you slipped that surfmaster adapter in there too Lee.. how cool is that!
and i've got some cf sheets on the way too..
though i wouldn't put it past you guys... if i open my box to find hex washers already inside ;D ;D
you guys are awesome
we'll see how awesome you think we all are when we come knocking on your door to crash out at your place and drink all of your beer! ;D
Quotewe'll see how awesome you think we all are when we come knocking on your door to crash out at your place and drink all of your beer! ;D
x2 - I was planning to look Erik up next time I'm at Cloudbreak ;)
;D ;D Bring it on Boys! Plenty of room here ;D ;D
Sal,
What line do you run on these? I've finally got parts for my Newelled Baymaster with the 100 aluminum spool. I'm thinking 300 yards of 20# braid with the spool filled with 20# mono, but you'd know better than me.
Ron
I have 17lb mono on mine Ron. Experiment and see what works best for you type of fishing.
Quote from: noyb72 on February 10, 2014, 12:09:14 AM
Sal,
What line do you run on these? I've finally got parts for my Newelled Baymaster with the 100 aluminum spool. I'm thinking 300 yards of 20# braid with the spool filled with 20# mono, but you'd know better than me.
Ron
I'd suggest using 40lb Spectra and 20lb mono.
Quote from: Keta on February 10, 2014, 12:53:43 AM
I'd suggest using 40lb Spectra and 20lb mono.
I gotta try this with hollow decade...
I have my 100s (and 150) filed with 40lb white with 150' of 60lb Decade spliced on the end and short L2L topshots of the proper weight mono, usually 20lb and 30lb but sometimes 40lb when around rocks or lingcod.
Quote from: Keta on February 10, 2014, 12:53:43 AM
Quote from: noyb72 on February 10, 2014, 12:09:14 AM
Sal,
What line do you run on these? I've finally got parts for my Newelled Baymaster with the 100 aluminum spool. I'm thinking 300 yards of 20# braid with the spool filled with 20# mono, but you'd know better than me.
Ron
I'd suggest using 40lb Spectra and 20lb mono.
......x2 i really hate tying anything thinner than 30lb braid...my 100 has 30lb but I will change it out soon for 40lb indicator line.
That helps. I'm gonna buy a bunch of 40 for other reels, I'll probably use that.
Thanks
Ron
Alright Guys, I'm finally coming around. Picked up this 100 for 40 Bucks! :o She is a Beauty. :P This completes my Surfmaster Line up. I already have the 150 and 200 Tib frames, Silver and red. I'm thinking of getting one of the new Green ones for this BABY! It has the steel gears too. ;D The handle is a little tweaked, but I think I can straighten it out.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_23141_zpse8e84092.jpg)
Nice little reel, don't forget the 250!
Ron
I Have it Ron! Aluminum spool, Red Handle. I have a silver frame for a 500. I think I'm going to put it on the 250 instead. ;)
I'm probably going to end up With a red framed 200 and 150. Silver 250 and 100. ;D
I have 2 narrow (501) Surfmaster 250 reels now.
So you can narrow a 250 just like a Jigmaster. I See! :)
Quote from: Shark Hunter on March 14, 2014, 10:21:52 PM
So you can narrow a 250 just like a Jigmaster. I See! :)
It's as easy as twisting a sideplate onto a 501, mine have both 250 sideplates. If you want a Tib framed one it uses the Jigmaster frame.
most of my narrows that I fish with don't have the correct 100 plate, I save those for the ones I keep on the shelf.
That goes for my Jigmasters also.
Have wanted to convert a reel to narrow size for a while. Chose a 100 because the spools are half the price of 501 spools.purchased an old 200 on ebay. Ordered the frame from tiburon, the drags from Bryan and the dug through the stash of parts I bought.
Found some newer but not pristine rings in the stash along with newell long cast bearings and used aluminum spool. The old 200 had a steel bridge and gears. Gave it the full AT treatment with grease in all the right places and its one sweet reel.Going to spool it up with 40lb spectra and 100 yards of 20lb on one spool and 15 lb on the other spool.
Going to sell my avet, this will be my go to light reel.
What's the best power handle for this? School is yft need a better handle and the drags can take it.
Bula Tom,
You'll love that surfmaster.
With all due respect for the Boss's custom grips (I have 10 on my reels ;))
I found the 3/0 grip and arm a tad too heavy and unbalanced on this small reel.
(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q680/fijigreen69/Image3_zpsc2e320b0.jpg) (http://s1353.photobucket.com/user/fijigreen69/media/Image3_zpsc2e320b0.jpg.html)
I fished it like that a few times but later switched to the stock Penn jigmaster power handle instead.
It's quite a bit lighter and makes the reel feel more balanced IMHO.
(http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q680/fijigreen69/SANY0753_zps34fad117.jpg) (http://s1353.photobucket.com/user/fijigreen69/media/SANY0753_zps34fad117.jpg.html)
I still may try a round knob too as I have a couple of those, but meanwhile, I really like the power handle.
Cheers and enjoy that little powerhouse
I like that Blue Frame Eric. You have a 5 stack in that Bad Boy?
If you have a Penn 24-66 from a full size Jigmaster, its a good choice. You can use a 24-112H from a 3/0 Senator, if you don't want a counter balanced handle. Both are longer than the original 24-155 and have larger grips or some sort of custom that's only limited by imagination, like Eric's top photo.. His second photo is Penn 24-56.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on September 11, 2014, 04:06:49 AM
I like that Blue Frame Eric. You have a 5 stack in that Bad Boy?
Thanks D, it's the Ice Blue, inspired by Sal ;)
No 5 stack yet, just Smoothdrag's kit.... I do have the hex insert for it though...almost forgot about that sweet bit.
Truth be told, the drag is so smooth and strong it doesn't need a 5 stack...yet ;D
My pics
Today I decided to mag this nice little reel, I didn't want to mess with metal plates and magnets, so I decided to give this a try:
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/302-525MAG.aspx (https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/302-525MAG.aspx)
If you wanted to try it as well, you will need to grind the back flat
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/upgrades%20for%20others/007_zps01b4260f.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/upgrades%20for%20others/007_zps01b4260f.jpg.html)
rough up the spot to be epoxied in, mix some 5 minute epoxy and set it in place.
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/upgrades%20for%20others/007_zps01b4260f.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/upgrades%20for%20others/007_zps01b4260f.jpg.html)
rough up the spot to be epoxied in, mix some 5 minute epoxy and set it in place.
The opposite side of the clicker seems to be the perfect spot
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/upgrades%20for%20others/010_zpse49857e3.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/upgrades%20for%20others/010_zpse49857e3.jpg.html)
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/upgrades%20for%20others/008_zpsfca0bf85.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/upgrades%20for%20others/008_zpsfca0bf85.jpg.html)
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/upgrades%20for%20others/014_zps5fa8de14.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/upgrades%20for%20others/014_zps5fa8de14.jpg.html)
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/upgrades%20for%20others/017_zps865908e9.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/upgrades%20for%20others/017_zps865908e9.jpg.html)
I checked the spool and everything else and all is working nicely.
Any questions...just ask!
Sal
"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"
Great work, Sal!
That is a very capable reel now -- both in strength, and free spool performance.
Best,
Fred
Cracker Job Sal! ;D
Thanks guys.
Tom McKinney, I just noticed your pics, very nice job. Thanks for sharing
Sal
Nice job as always Sal! I never noticed the mag kit on MysticParts before. Thanks, Bob
"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"
Looks great, Sal.
What was the impact on casting distance.
Ron
I don't know yet Ron, all I can tell you is that I love these reels with magnets. I was never able to cast conventional reels, now I can't put them down, The 970 casts like a dream.
I also have a few 980 and 990.
These should also do great, I gave it a shot in back of my house and I can tell they're going to do just fine.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on October 18, 2014, 10:07:59 PM
Cracker Job Sal! ;D
Times 2. It looks like Daron and I speak New Zealand. :D Dominick
Nice!!!
Hey Sal is that a 25-56?
John, I believe its a 24-66, I also like the 24-155. I was buying lots of 24-56, they looked great, but to me they didn't feel right while fishing. I'm slowly getting rid of them, I think I have a couple left.
These counterbalanced are great to use, I requested some from Adam, those are a little larger than the 24-155, but still about 3/8" smaller than the 24-66.
I actually received some today from him ;D.
Sal
That blue from is purdy!
thanks to you lot Im now wanting an ice blue tiburon frame...
Quote from: Three se7ens on May 13, 2015, 02:54:40 AM
thanks to you lot Im now wanting an ice blue tiburon frame...
Would a nice used Ice Blue Accurate frame with a Newell 100 spool for $95 plus $6 for shipping by Priority Mail work for you?
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on May 13, 2015, 05:58:12 AM
Quote from: Three se7ens on May 13, 2015, 02:54:40 AM
thanks to you lot Im now wanting an ice blue tiburon frame...
Would a nice used Ice Blue Accurate frame with a Newell 100 spool for $95 plus $6 for shipping by Priority Mail work for you?
Thanks for the offer, but I need to hold off for a bit.
I took on my little 100 today. I added a stainless gearand greased the HT-100 drags as I found them dry. Added an Accuframe. Then the thing proceeded to drive me absolutely wacko.
I looked down when I disassembled it and saw a narrow strip of copper laying on my paper towel. So I looked at my book of Penn schematics and it shows a normal dog and spring. No help there.
I proceeded to try every different combo and couldn't make the dog engage. Finally after an hour it hit me....I have to bend it open more! What a simple piece of....well, the 12 year old rule applies here.
I don't know if there is a later (or earlier) model that has a regular dog spring but boy I don't like that little strip of copper at all.
Then the Take apart screw just fell out when I wasn't paying attention. That's a first. I didn't find any kind of retainer like the Jigmaster has, but it finally grabbed hold of the spring and went back together.
Then I had just ordered (4) more of the Black Pearl spacers, and they are too short, so the original went back in. Boy I wish I hand more spare parts on hand.
At least the Giants swept the Dodgers! ;D
Randy --
Some of the take apart screws (TA-200, I think) have a retainer -- some have a fluted diamond pattern sleeve that presses in place, into the side plate.
I probably have all of the spare parts you may need -- just let me know what might be useful -- and we would need exact measurements on possible spacers -- or figure on getting them a little long and sanding down.
Glad to help, if needed.
Those little 100s are a highly capable reel with the Accuframe and upgrades.
Best,
Fred
Good morning Fred.
I forgot I had just purchased some cheapie calipers. I put the reel back together with the original spacer, back in the cabinet.
I had prior experience with Alan's original spacers and had always had to shorten them. So I figured I would order four of the 10.5. It actually measured 10.44 Keep in mind this caliper may not be too accurate.
It dropped in down below the lip of the sideplate, so it would not work.
I should have ordered a variety of sizes. I also considered adding another washer to the drag stack but couldn't find anything.
I'm going to order more after I measure the spacers in the reels I'm looking at improving.
Hey Fred,
A) Revisiting this, I discovered a severely worn dog (15-200) and dog ratchet gear. I have never seen that in any other reel I've had apart. The brass ratchet looks mashed on the edges. The dog itself is worn on what would be the contact point, but on the top edge too.
B) And I now can't find the take apart screw, which is driving me screwy too. It is different from the squidder take apart, as the SM hole in the ring/sideplate is smaller and seems to have a brass sleeve liner of sorts.
C) Also, I found an incorrect upper bridge screw on my 140 converted to narrow. The screw that the dog rides on has threads. Am I right, that is wrong?
D) Also, I need a used 100L spool for a user reel. A used stainless eccentric would be icing on the cake.
Let me know if you can help on a multi-reel pile up I have going.
I worked 10-1/2 hrs. yesterday and I'm doing reels to unwind. Thanks Fred!
Sorry, Randy --
To respond so late -- just got back in after a very full day that started early this morning.
Have a full day tomorrow also with items unrelated to reels.
So likely will not have time to check things out availability-wise -- until late tomorrow, or more likely Monday.
Should have the dog, spring, and take apart screw.
Assuming you mean the gear sleeve when you refer to the brass ratchet?
I will check on the eccentric, think the screw may be correct, but will verify.
Do not have an aluminum spool for that reel.
If you could post pics -- that would be very helpful.
Best,
Fred
EDIT: Ordered all the parts.
No worries Fred. I am in no hurry. I have about 4 different reels all apart waiting on different items.
I was up late working on an old graphite Shimano Bantam Mag Plus I had ebay'd years ago as a second. I had never pulled it apart and I think it was one a fisherman snagged while trolling the bottom. Literally some kind of crusty deposits on and in everything. Simple green and Dawn dish soap literally had no effect after a four hour soak. I ended up scraping with popsicle sticks. It would chip off like barnacle bits!
I should have waited until I was all done, because I stupidly ebay'd a new old stock sideplate for it. The reel will not work properly anyway. I'm not too smart when I'm tired and sleepy.
I am sticking to the big three, Penn, Daiwa, and Dam Quick. ;D
Great job Sal, I work up my Surfmaster's kayak style, with Newel base and posts. Tibaron parts are nice, but the newel is components keep it lighter, and are more resistant for the harshness of the kayak world.
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 09, 2013, 04:40:25 PM
Quote from: Irish Jigger on February 09, 2013, 04:08:54 PM
Nice work as usual Sal. Did you have to trim the spacing sleeve to accommodate the 1/2 mm thicker 10-66 star? BTW the 10-505 fine thread star is the same thickness as the 10-60 and would go well with a fine threaded sleeve on this reel.
Get yourself a Quick-Wedge screwdriver,one of the most useful tools in my toolbox.Ref attached link.
http://www.newmantools.com/kedman.htm
Thanks Tom. No, didn't need to do any trimming to the spacer. I do hit the sleeve on the grinder, when i need to. Drag setting on all of my reels start soft, just the way I like them.
Thanks for the tip on the screwdriver, one of my brothers is an electrician and I remember him using one of those, but never gave it a thought.
Yes I know about the 505 and already have one set up that way, i prefer coars threads on mine though.
The ss screws is a very good upgrade on these. You know, this guy from Northern Ireland had to show me where to get those in my neck of the woods ;D
Thanks again Tom, I will order that screwdriver ;)
Am I reading this right? You can replace the gear sleeve 98-155 with a 98-505 or 98-505AT? Please enlighten us unworthy ones.
Quote from: kmstorm64 on September 10, 2015, 09:17:12 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 09, 2013, 04:40:25 PM
Quote from: Irish Jigger on February 09, 2013, 04:08:54 PM
Nice work as usual Sal. Did you have to trim the spacing sleeve to accommodate the 1/2 mm thicker 10-66 star? BTW the 10-505 fine thread star is the same thickness as the 10-60 and would go well with a fine threaded sleeve on this reel.
Get yourself a Quick-Wedge screwdriver,one of the most useful tools in my toolbox.Ref attached link.
http://www.newmantools.com/kedman.htm
Thanks Tom. No, didn't need to do any trimming to the spacer. I do hit the sleeve on the grinder, when i need to. Drag setting on all of my reels start soft, just the way I like them.
Thanks for the tip on the screwdriver, one of my brothers is an electrician and I remember him using one of those, but never gave it a thought.
Yes I know about the 505 and already have one set up that way, i prefer coars threads on mine though.
The ss screws is a very good upgrade on these. You know, this guy from Northern Ireland had to show me where to get those in my neck of the woods ;D
Thanks again Tom, I will order that screwdriver ;)
Am I reading this right? You can replace the gear sleeve 98-155 with a 98-505 or 98-505AT? Please enlighten us unworthy ones.
No, the 98-505 will not work on the 3-200 bridge. Well, let me rephrase, you could make it work, but you will need to remove about 1/16th off the edge of the ratchet. I did mine on the belt sander and only took a couple of minutes, one of my Surfmaster still has the 98-505 AT sleeve.
If you try it, all will work as it should, the only issue you will have is with the inner side of the spool lip. If I remember correctly, you do get away with the old metal spool, but not 100% on it.
Since we have both though, I would advice you to let it go and use the correct sleeve, I like to experiment.
On another note, if you needed the Jigmaster to go fish and only had the 98-155AT to upgrade, you could use it and it will perform just fine, I've done it a couple of times.
Sal
I'm working on putting a tib frame on my 100 tonight and I stripped one of those awful slotted screws. What a headache. I just wanted to put on a shiny tib frame ughhhhhh
Funny you say that Mike. I was installing two Tiburon frames on 150's and really had to force the screws in. Actually turned it in and then back off, and then force it a bit more. Using the screw to rethread it.
I upsized my screw driver to be able to put extra grunt.
I thought I had a bad couple of screws at first. I could see nice anodized color in a few of the holes that threaded in easy. The ones that were tough had a whitish color. Maybe some dried goop from the machining process? Just speculating.
Then a brand new old stock sideplate I had purchased a while back turned out to have no post for the dog spring. Aarrrgh.
Ain't this fun? ;D
Hopefully you can get it removed without too much difficulty. In the future, if a screw starts to get a bit tight, you may want to back it out and run a tap through to clean up/deburr the threads first. I know hindsight is 20/20 and all.
Those screws strip way too easily. I have another 100 to cannibalize but I'm worried i'll end up stripping those too. Plus I would like to get my newell bar off there.
Back at it after work tonight lol
Mike,
Check to see if your screwdriver is a good fit. If not, invest in a hollow ground. Also might be a good idea to pre-soak all those screws with some type of penetrating oil overnight. Take your time on it.
Post some pics so we can help ...
Looking forward to your build ;)
Mike, you'll get it. Meanwhile, here's a pic of my 150's, ready for fishing. Thanks to Randy Pauly.
I showed that SOB whose boss ;D
(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j396/msmir1/FC1D17F4-5DEF-44F8-91A0-8DD54089A961.jpg) (http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/msmir1/media/FC1D17F4-5DEF-44F8-91A0-8DD54089A961.jpg.html)
That deserves an 'Atta boy' !!
That had to be satisfying, eh?
Quote from: Rancanfish on May 06, 2016, 10:12:36 PM
That deserves an 'Atta boy' !!
That had to be satisfying, eh?
Feel like a million bucks right now. It's the small things in life...
Mike looked like a real nail biter!!! LOL. We'll fish soon!!!
Just wanted to point out I contacted FISHGRAIN that I got the NOS side plate from, and he's sending me another.
Some EBayer's are real pro's and FISHGRAIN is a prime example.
So my second 150 is going to be 100% 150! Yay.
Randy, those red Tibs look great!
Over three years ago I had issues with Tiburon, one was exactly what you and Mike have mentioned.
Another issue was with the screw hole not lining up and the third issue was with the anodizing not taking by their recessed name on the frame.
They told me it was wax buildup from cleaning the frames prior to anodizing.
I also told them if they didn't go back to the old design on the rod clamp, I wasn't going to purchase anymore.
Looks like they corrected all of the above, but not the last request :(.
You've mentioned Fishgrain, Jay is a professional salesman, great person to deal with.
I'm surprised he still had some of those, I thought I cleaned him out :-\ ;D.
Mike, I'm glad you got that screw out, the slots on those are ridiculously shallow, I don't believe the proper screwdriver would help when they're stuck.
Try these for replacement:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#91771A124
They stick out a little, but I have no clearance issues. If you do, just rub the head on a piece of sandpaper, it doesn't take much.
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on May 07, 2016, 11:35:11 AM
Randy, those red Tibs look great!
Over three years ago I had issues with Tiburon, one was exactly what you and Mike have mentioned.
Another issue was with the screw hole not lining up and the third issue was with the anodizing not taking by their recessed name on the frame.
They told me it was wax buildup from cleaning the frames prior to anodizing.
I also told them if they didn't go back to the old design on the rod clamp, I wasn't going to purchase anymore.
Looks like they corrected all of the above, but not the last request :(.
You've mentioned Fishgrain, Jay is a professional salesman, great person to deal with.
I'm surprised he still had some of those, I thought I cleaned him out :-\ ;D.
Mike, I'm glad you got that screw out, the slots on those are ridiculously shallow, I don't believe the proper screwdriver would help when they're stuck.
Try these for replacement:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#91771A124
They stick out a little, but I have no clearance issues. If you do, just rub the head on a piece of sandpaper, it doesn't take much.
Sal
Thanks for the link Sal!
Funny you mention the tib frame issue with the screw hole not lining up. I had to run and couldn't play with it more but it appears that the take apart screw can't be screwed all the way in. I'll try messing around with it more when I'm home later.
I just ordered a hundred pack of the screws Sal suggested. I'll never use even half of them so I'm happy to share with anyone who needs a set once I get them.
Quote from: MikeS51 on May 07, 2016, 12:01:15 PM
I just ordered a hundred pack of the screws Sal suggested. I'll never use even half of them so I'm happy to share with anyone who needs a set once I get them.
Mike, I forgot to mention that I use the 1/4" for reels with no Tib. Try changing your order to these:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#91771A126
Send them a line, they're pretty good about it.
Just in case its too late , I'll buy them from you.
It is a good idea to have both though.
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on May 07, 2016, 12:24:50 PM
Quote from: MikeS51 on May 07, 2016, 12:01:15 PM
I just ordered a hundred pack of the screws Sal suggested. I'll never use even half of them so I'm happy to share with anyone who needs a set once I get them.
Mike, I forgot to mention that I use the 1/4" for reels with no Tib. Try changing your order to these:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#91771A126
Send them a line, they're pretty good about it.
Just in case its too late , I'll buy them from you.
It is a good idea to have both though.
Sal
Thanks for the correction. Can't hurt to have both!
I think I need to go to church after what I was saying to myself while getting those garbage screws out :D
Mike, if they're too many, I will purchase 50 of the 1/4 and 50 of the 3/8 from you, I will even pick up the shipping ;D
Penn tolerance changed a little along the way, having 80+ years old reels, it's understandable.
Just in case yours are giving you a hard time use one of these, or an old bridge to hold the screws for sanding:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/20160507_083115.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/20160507_083115.jpg.html)
Just now I removed 1mm and took about 10 seconds.
Keep an eye out at garage sales or craigslist for one of these:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/20160507_083153.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/20160507_083153.jpg.html)
It has been doing wonders for me, parts don't heat up as fast. I believe this one has a 12:1 ratio
You would use the same process if the screws need to be shortened if used on a stock stand.
As mentioned above, I didn't have to do any sanding on those screws for my reels.
If you had to, a simple file will do the same, just a little extra work.
Sal
Good idea Sal. I have some scrap handle arms that would work well for a holder. Rather than getting pennies for scrap I will give them to anyone that wants them for the shipping cost.
You're a good man Lee, but everyone already knows it ;D.
I just checked eBay, there is loads of hand crank bench grinder, I didn't realize so many were available.
I really recommend those, will help with many tasks, even shortening dogs. mine has a sharpening stone.
Using a handle arm will take the guess work out of shortening the set screws on the arm, most ss are too long.
The threads will also clean itself as you unscrew it.
Sal
Mine is a expensive belt grinder but I put lots of hours on it.
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Reels/Bench%20Sander_zps9nxhgvdd.jpg) (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/IGFA19Keta/media/Reels/Bench%20Sander_zps9nxhgvdd.jpg.html)
Keyed washer reforming tool,
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Reels/Washer%20II_zpsjueuwy3h.jpg) (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/IGFA19Keta/media/Reels/Washer%20II_zpsjueuwy3h.jpg.html)
Lee, that's some serious equipment, if not careful, it could make the complete part disappear ;D.
I also have a belt sander, nothing as yours, but a nice one. I like to fine tune small parts with the hand grinder, I get much better results.
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on May 07, 2016, 04:58:41 PM
Lee, that's some serious equipment, if not careful, it could make the complete part disappear ;D.
I also have a belt sander, nothing as yours, but a nice one. I like to fine tune small parts with the hand grinder, I get much better results.
Sal
Takes off finger tips quick and sends small dogs to live with springs and missing socks. I have a small belt sander, to the left of the large one, and I do a lot of work on a hand stone.
Quote from: Alto Mare on October 18, 2014, 09:58:19 PM
Today I decided to mag this nice little reel, I didn't want to mess with metal plates and magnets, so I decided to give this a try:
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/302-525MAG.aspx (https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/302-525MAG.aspx)
If you wanted to try it as well, you will need to grind the back flat
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/upgrades%20for%20others/007_zps01b4260f.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/upgrades%20for%20others/007_zps01b4260f.jpg.html)
rough up the spot to be epoxied in, mix some 5 minute epoxy and set it in place.
Sal
"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"
excellent part find, I like to have my small conventional reels magged and this will work wonders on them, most of them have been magged the old way, gluing a metal washer and put as many magnets as needed, but this looks 3x better, it will look factory made when you open the reel.
thanks compadre, ordering few at this moments.
Quote from: Alto Mare on May 07, 2016, 12:58:25 PM
Mike, if they're too many, I will purchase 50 of the 1/4 and 50 of the 3/8 from you, I will even pick up the shipping ;D
Sal
I will send them to you when I get them, just pm your address. Many of your posts on here have helped me.
She's ready for battle tomorrow ;D. Thanks for the frame Randy!
(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j396/msmir1/4CEAD20F-2FE6-4D3C-87E2-E0895BB90B20.jpg) (http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/msmir1/media/4CEAD20F-2FE6-4D3C-87E2-E0895BB90B20.jpg.html)
I loves me some Surfmasters...this thread is like a golden ticket to Willy Wonka's factory...and very informative! My 100 is stock except the power handle. Everything has been serviced inside...she's right and tight. She has the old steel gear, so if I ever decide to bling, it's all green. ;D
(http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb470/mo655/008%202.jpg) (http://s1207.photobucket.com/user/mo655/media/008%202.jpg.html)
Sorry for bumping an old thread, but this seems like the best place to ask questions about a Surfmaster.
About 5+ years ago I came across an old Surfmaster 100L, covered in green corrosion, and just in an overall sad state. I had never before taken a reel apart, so I did some web searching, which inevitable brought me to these forums, and eventually I was able to restore this great little reel and give her a second chance. I've only used her once, on a 1/2 day trip, as my other newer and "fancier" reels have taken center stage, but lately I have been considering taking the jump into kayak fishing, and this little reel seems like it would be the perfect fit for that.
With that said, I'm looking to upgrade my 100 and I'm wondering if there is anyone still making upgrades for these? I would definitely like to purchase a SS gear sleeve, and possibly other upgrades depending on what, if anything, is available.
I'm pretty sure the surfmasters have the same drag as the squidders (#6-60), and I found this info posted on here: "squidder 140L - 3 stack of #6-60 drags, working drag range to 8#'s, max drag range 12#'s, damage to the brass gear sleeve at 8#'s."
So if 8#'s is where the stock sleeve starts to get damaged, what is the threshold for a SS sleeve?
Cheers!
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w9/skinnyandy/0504170836a_zpsevow27qr.jpg)
Quote from: Jenx on May 04, 2017, 04:20:11 PM
I'm looking to upgrade my 100 and I'm wondering if there is anyone still making upgrades for these?.
Go to the For Sale section here...you'll find several folks who make upgrade parts to fit your 100...good luck with your project! 8)
Thanks. I did some looking around and I ordered a gear sleeve from Cortez.
There isn't much you could do to that reel, the sleeve from tom is a good move, see if he also has the dog in stainless steel.
You might also want to get the ultimate drag kit from Bryan.
Those are tough little reels, I enjoy fishing with mine, I have a couple.
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on May 04, 2017, 07:59:34 PM
There isn't much you could do to that reel, the sleeve from tom is a good move, see if he also has the dog in stainless steel.
You might also want to get the ultimate drag kit from Bryan.
Those are tough little reels, I enjoy fishing with mine, I have a couple.
Sal
Thanks. I installed my gear sleeve this morning. It looks great, and Tom's customer service was also great. I didn't see a stainless dog on his site, however.
I already have some regular carbon fiber drags in it, so is the ultimate drag kit that much of an improvement to justify dropping another $25+ on drags? I have to assume this reel, with carbon drags and SS sleeve, already has more than enough drag power to fish 20-25lb line, correct?
I'm really liking the feel of this little reel. I bought a 501 recently to try out another narrow framed Penn, and while it's a nice reel I definitely prefer the lower profile of the 100. It just feels better in my hands. At some point I might try out the 146.
Anyways, thank you for the help, and if I can pester you guys with one more question: Is there a trick to dealing with this reels annoying dog and spring? That thing drives me crazy, and I can't seem to find a good way to hold it in place while dropping the sleeve back in. I'm not sure why it is called a dog spring. I guess calling it
Little-piece-of-metal-that-shoots-across-the-room would be too much of a mouthful.
I put a little dab of grease in the plate & dip the end of the spring in the grease too. Then when it slips it tends to stay near the slot not into outer space. Rudy
This one is a flat spring Rudy.
Janks, set in the 4 bridge screws and put a piece of vynol tape over them. White seems to hold the best for me.
Also, get some O-rings of the correct size and slip one on top of the gear sleeve, after you've set the gear, washers and spacer in.
The O-ring will keep everything set in as you assemble the reel. I've done hundreds of these and still use the o-ring, especially on these little guys.
Yes the Ultimate Drag Upgrade from Bryan will really feel nice.
You should be using a ss dog, along with the ss gear sleeve. Try here:
http://alantani.com/index.php?board=63.0
Lee might have some in stock.
Good luck!
Sal
For me the dog spring has been a journey from "sweat running into eyes/blood pressure critical"
to "piece of cake"...it's just a task that has to be learned. You'll find it gets easier with every reel. I'm reaching a point where it's like chording a guitar...my fingers seem to be there before I even think.
Sal's right...Bryan's 5-stack kit is worth the price and then some. It gives you a nice smooth midrange that used to be the sticky/chattering top end of the drag's range. With that drag kit it will never even break a sweat using 20-25lb. line. That's the same line weight I use on my 100.
You're right...that small profile feels great in my hands too. Enjoy your reel! 8)
There's that old saying, "It takes a village..." Well this reel took a village to make:
- From Tom I got a SS sleeve, larger star, and delrin eccentric lever
- 5+1 stack from Bryan
- Screws from Sal
- I bought another 100 from someone locally for parts only to discover he is a member of these forums. The first post on page six is the reel I bought. I pilfered the Tib frame and steel main gear from it, and that reel also had an aluminum spool, 5+1 stack, and newell bushings so I scored some nice extra parts for future projects.
- I contacted Lee about an SS dog, and he said he'd look to see if he had anymore. Once I get that dog this project is complete,
(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w9/skinnyandy/e41c0aba-3bf2-46f0-bf5a-44fc878e0bd1_zpstkqecawr.jpg)
Originally I wasn't a fan of the black colored Tib frames, but I got a good deal on one, so I went with it. But now that I see it assembled I am liking the old school all black and chrome look.
Thank you everyone for the help with this!
That's a black beauty. I've been into Squidders but haven't tried a Surfmaster yet. Do you use it in the surf? Delrin eccentric lever, interesting. Been thinking about some use for 3D printing reel parts...
Quote from: Decker on May 18, 2017, 09:08:00 PM
That's a black beauty. I've been into Squidders but haven't tried a Surfmaster yet. Do you use it in the surf? Delrin eccentric lever, interesting. Been thinking about some use for 3D printing reel parts...
Thanks. I don't surf fish, or at least I haven't tried yet. I plan on using it for kayaking. I haven't tried a squidder yet, but I hear so much good things about its casting abilities that I might look into getting a 146 as another project down the road. But for now I want to start on a 501 to pair with my 100.
Hey Decker, you'll like the surfmaster 100 swell! To me they respond to magging better. I use mine in the surf specifically.Won't out cast my squidders but come close! I have 1 surfmaster that I can nearly spool it with 3oz. n 10' rod. But that's w/ 30 lb test so not sure of yardage.
Mark
Nice work Jenx, that's turned out well with all the bits and pieces available from this 'village'.
Mike
Here's a couple of 100s I've put together, one with a Newell Al spool, graphite stand and spacer bars and the other with Black Pearl spacer bars and a Penn spool and stand.
(http://alantani.com/gallery/17/7995_07_07_17_11_47_33.jpeg)
Both are double dogged, the reel with the Penn spool has one piece post/dogs left over from a squidder build;
(http://alantani.com/gallery/17/7995_07_07_17_11_48_21.jpeg)
And the reel with the Newell spool has 'normal' dogs on a post;
(http://alantani.com/gallery/17/7995_07_07_17_11_49_58.jpeg)
Mike
Cool reels Mike! The Surfy 100 is such a nice, light little reel. And fishhawk is right...they do respond well to magging. 8)
Quote from: mhc on June 11, 2017, 06:57:14 AM
Here's a couple of 100s I've put together, one with a Newell Al spool, graphite stand and spacer bars and the other with Black Pearl spacer bars and a Penn spool and stand.
(http://alantani.com/gallery/17/7995_07_07_17_11_47_33.jpeg)
Both are double dogged, the reel with the Penn spool has one piece post/dogs left over from a squidder build;
(http://alantani.com/gallery/17/7995_07_07_17_11_48_21.jpeg)
And the reel with the Newell spool has 'normal' dogs on a post;
Where did you get the double dog set up?
(http://alantani.com/gallery/17/7995_07_07_17_11_49_58.jpeg)
Mike
Quote from: kmstorm64 on July 18, 2018, 09:38:25 PM
Where did you get the double dog set up?
I'm pretty sure he made those bridges kmstorm...but a double-dogged #3-200 bridge would be a hot commodity. 8)
Mo is correct kmstorm, I put the dogs on both the bridges - the one piece dog/post one is from the squidder thread you've seen and the more conventional dogs on fixed posts bridge has peened posts with custom dogs.
Mike
Quote from: Jenx on May 04, 2017, 04:20:11 PM
Sorry for bumping an old thread, but this seems like the best place to ask questions about a Surfmaster.
About 5+ years ago I came across an old Surfmaster 100L, covered in green corrosion, and just in an overall sad state. I had never before taken a reel apart, so I did some web searching, which inevitable brought me to these forums, and eventually I was able to restore this great little reel and give her a second chance. I've only used her once, on a 1/2 day trip, as my other newer and "fancier" reels have taken center stage, but lately I have been considering taking the jump into kayak fishing, and this little reel seems like it would be the perfect fit for that.
With that said, I'm looking to upgrade my 100 and I'm wondering if there is anyone still making upgrades for these? I would definitely like to purchase a SS gear sleeve, and possibly other upgrades depending on what, if anything, is available.
I'm pretty sure the surfmasters have the same drag as the squidders (#6-60), and I found this info posted on here: "squidder 140L - 3 stack of #6-60 drags, working drag range to 8#'s, max drag range 12#'s, damage to the brass gear sleeve at 8#'s."
So if 8#'s is where the stock sleeve starts to get damaged, what is the threshold for a SS sleeve?
Cheers!
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The 100 is one of my favorite kayaking reels, that and the Shimano TR-100. Both are light and get the job done for everything from Rock fish & Salmon out here. I had one of the members here a few years ago powder coat all the metal parts to Purple for my GF. She likes the reel, just doesn't get out enough to take advantage of it. I have Newell bars and seat on mine, bought them when you still could find them.