there is a new way to tie leader to braid knot circling in indonesian fishing community so i guess il leave it here for everyone to try. cheers.
Step 1. wrap the braid tag end twice followd by braid mainline once on the leader. do this 6 times.
step 2. using the braid tag end wrap the leader only 1 time followed by wrap both braid mainline and leader 1 time. do this 15 to 20 times.
Step 3. do the alternating half hitches 6 times towards the starting point of the knot.
there you have it. relix knot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVk739_lNbs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVk739_lNbs)
That's pretty interesting I will try that it seems to be tighter knot to slide threw the guides.
Joe
Looks like a variation of the fg knot. Very strong when tied right, and very smooth through the guides. The big issue I have seen is it's hard to tighten the knot properly without using some kind of bar to hold the line. I have cut myself trying to tighten an fg in 20 lb braid. Now I use 3/8" round bar covered in heat shrink to tighten the knots. That made all the difference in the works. Tighter and slimmer knots, and no failures
That's a good tip on the braid. I have cut myself more the once before I learned to use a wood dowel.
Joe
Interesting knot. I will have to play with it.
Here's another tip for tightening knots, whether braid or other: Don't let the line lie in the creases in your fingers, because it will likely cut you. Instead make sure it crosses the meat of the joints; much less likely to cut you. I know it's not obvious, but it works.
Mike
Wear gloves. Dominick
Quote from: Dominick on February 17, 2018, 06:50:29 PM
Wear gloves. Dominick
RIGHT ! Or a couple of wood dowels in your tackle bag... Jeff
Quote from: Dominick on February 17, 2018, 06:50:29 PM
Wear gloves. Dominick
Mittens: much more sporting when tying knots. :)
Some one would have to demonstrate this knot working much better than the FG for me to change. The FG works so well that I will not use another until this happens. My testing has shown the FG to be as strong or stronger than any braid to mono connection knot.
I love knots & learning new ones. My life literally hangs from my ability to choose & tie a propper knot or hitch. Can any one here speak of the merits of this knot over others ? ... Jeff
It is wider (thicker) than an FG because the half hitches double back on top of the knot. But I like the idea of doing one wrap over and one wrap under. It will give the braid a ribbed texture where it compresses the leader material.
The way the guy melts the glob on the end is risky because there is nothing to keep the flame from wafting back onto the braid. Better to hold the leader between two fingers with only the tag end of the leader sticking out. You would burn your fingers before the braid gets too hot if the flame wafts back. With the FG, you can trim the tag end, melt your glob and then throw the final half hitches right up to the base of the glob which will help prevent clicking as it comes through the guides at the end of the retrieve.
-steve
Steve, I agree.
I of course meant FG Knot & not PG. A brain fart on my part... Jeff
Jeff, I don't know what a RG or PG or FG means. Wish they wouldn't name knots with people's initials.
-steve
Hard for me to keep the names straight. Had to redo it twice.
Quote from: oc1 on February 19, 2018, 08:50:22 AM
It is wider (thicker) than an FG because the half hitches double back on top of the knot. But I like the idea of doing one wrap over and one wrap under. It will give the braid a ribbed texture where it compresses the leader material.
The way the guy melts the glob on the end is risky because there is nothing to keep the flame from wafting back onto the braid. Better to hold the leader between two fingers with only the tag end of the leader sticking out. You would burn your fingers before the braid gets too hot if the flame wafts back. With the FG, you can trim the tag end, melt your glob and then throw the final half hitches right up to the base of the glob which will help prevent clicking as it comes through the guides at the end of the retrieve.
-steve
The FG still has a bit of a chinese fingertrap effect on the braid, as long as its tied right. Braid crosses twice for every revolution around the mono. There is no need to melt the end of the mono, or even leave a tag end if the knot is properly cinched down. The harder you pull, the tighter the braid locks down on the mono. It functions much like a serve in hollow core braid.
The knot was simple enough to tie butt looked kinda hoaky with the half hitch ending? Butt what nobody seemed to comment on the testing equipment the fella was using. ??? Now i,m impressed with a digital printout! :o Just saying. ;)
After watching the post about the big mono knot I cannot find any reference using a computer 💻 to the spangler knot? Can someone steer me straight? The springer knot is possibly a variation?