question to all gurus.
is there any surf fishing rod (custom or manufactured) that works for all kind of applications?
what surf rod can be kept in trunk.
for fishing east cost NY,NJ.
Black Hole surf fishing rods.......
https://www.blackholeusa.com/surf-rods-blanks
The Suzuki Special models are a great rod for a great price
Well, you can putt a golf ball with a driver, but it's not ideal.....If I was going to have one to keep on hand in the trunk, it would likely be a ten-footer rated 2-6 ounces or so, a 6000 size spinning reel with 30 lb braid and a shock leader. This will chunk spoons, bucktails, poppers / plugs, and reasonably toss a 5oz weight and a mullet head, and have enough to take most fish you might encounter. Overkill for whiting and undergun for cow stripers and drum, but that's as close to a do-all as I could say...my 0.02.
I'm a Penn guy, so it would likely be my Spinfisher graphite with 6500SS. Tsunami, Penn Prevail, Okuma, Sea Striker all make decent performing stuff under a hundred bucks, and fish just fine if you don'y need to hit low altitude orbit (although I can reach out there with 12' Tsunami's).
if you want 11'-13' for trunk, look into carp rods for more 3-pc options
more "tippy" than proper Surf; not ideal for higher terminal weights
but enough butt to land occasional trophy & more enjoyable with 95%
of what you're likely to hook in our over-pressured corner of the world
My black hole suzuki special 10' is potentially the most fun to fish with rod I've ever held, definitely the most fun rod I own. I use it for light surf fishing running 20# Jbraid on a daiwa BG 4000. Great setup as long as you can keep the reel out of the sand.
. I did a custom build but they sell them pre made as well. The blank is $100 the pre made is about 200.
I can throw some pretty remarkable casts with it, and it's surprisingly bendy for fighting. And surprisingly sensitive.
*I haven't fished the premade one just my own creation.
That's a broad question. You would at least need to specify the weight of the lure/payload and spinning or conventional. Any three-piece and some two-piece rods can be put in the truck.
How long is a piece of string?
The question needs a little more definition, both on types of fishing you expect from the rod, and the performance you would like.
Both mainland Europe and southern Africa have a huge variety of options on 3 piece rods, as these became vogue a few years back, and transportability became a priority. Options there range from bargain basement through to high performance rods, from manufactured to full custom. Currently, on the rack in our custom shop we have 3 piece rods to cover the whole range from light spinning to heavy weight specials. Most common applications come from dedicated 5-6oz designs offering distance performance, yet still light enough for using all dy long without putting rods in holders.
Quote from: pjstevko on September 10, 2021, 01:23:08 AM
Black Hole surf fishing rods.......
https://www.blackholeusa.com/surf-rods-blanks
The Suzuki Special models are a great rod for a great price
Good Day,
I reached to BH
https://jignpop.com/black-hole-usa-suzuki-special-96-10-surf-rod/
2 sizes are available
Quote from: oc1 on September 10, 2021, 07:22:36 AM
That's a broad question. You would at least need to specify the weight of the lure/payload and spinning or conventional. Any three-piece and some two-piece rods can be put in the truck.
My best rod is Penn Fierce 9f combo. I have for 10 years and it never failed. it fits perfectly in trunk of Rav4. But casting distance from open ocean surf was not enough. Im looking for may be 11 ft now.
Previously owned Ugly Stik 12ft - but it is too stiff.
Black Hole Suzuki rods comes on 9.6 and 10f option 3/4~3oz only.
have any one fished with St.Croix Mojo or Legend?
Quote from: philaroman on September 10, 2021, 04:32:27 AM
if you want 11'-13' for trunk, look into carp rods for more 3-pc options
more "tippy" than proper Surf; not ideal for higher terminal weights
but enough butt to land occasional trophy & more enjoyable with 95%
of what you're likely to hook in our over-pressured corner of the world
Funny but I tried 9 ft carp rod for casting jigs and spoons for bluefish and it made better than carpfishing.
what is the best carp rods 3 piece? in your opinion
Quote from: Riy2018 on September 16, 2021, 01:17:17 PM
Quote from: pjstevko on September 10, 2021, 01:23:08 AM
Black Hole surf fishing rods.......
https://www.blackholeusa.com/surf-rods-blanks
The Suzuki Special models are a great rod for a great price
Good Day,
I reached to BH
https://jignpop.com/black-hole-usa-suzuki-special-96-10-surf-rod/
2 sizes are available
I have the 10 footer. The 9'6 is stiffer for throwing heavier bait. Line rating is irrelevant in the age of braid. Consider the weight of the bait you wanna throw and decide accordingly.
Quote from: Riy2018 on September 16, 2021, 01:29:05 PM
Funny but I tried 9 ft carp rod for casting jigs and spoons for bluefish and it made better than carpfishing.
what is the best carp rods 3 piece? in your opinion
couldn't tell you brands... just basics:
carp world is mostly spinning/baitrunner, but some conventional (esp. in US for fans of Abu w/ clicker)
3.25 or 3.50 Test Curve might be nice for light Surf... 3.0TC still has enough butt to handle bigger fish & more joy w/ small stuff,
but too tippy for high winds/waves & can't aggressively cast much more than 2oz+bait... more Bay, than Surf
please let me know if you have any experience with https://www.fiblink.com/products/fiblink-surf-spinning-fishing-rod-2-piece-graphite-travel-fishing-rod
Amazon has many good and very bad reviews. cant trust Amazon anymore.
the good reviews might be bot-generated, an even if not --
mostly written upon receipt -- NOT, after some use... hence, USELESS!!!
only read the bad reviews & eliminate ones written by complete idiots (always a few of those)
look for repetition of issues (a one-of may be just that)
consider the repeated complaints as they relate to YOUR intended use -- could be a huge red flag,
OR some peeves of others, may be irrelevant or even preferable to YOU
know nothing about this rod, but nothing in the ad makes me want to buy one
Quote from: oc1 on September 10, 2021, 07:22:36 AM
That's a broad question. You would at least need to specify the weight of the lure/payload and spinning or conventional. Any three-piece and some two-piece rods can be put in the truck.
It is hard to imagine just one.
Riy,
I'm still eyeing the Fiblink for my next spinner rod, 11 ft.
Like Fiblink, the rod's good price had me buy a Berrypro conventional rod, 11 ft, several weeks ago. I too don't trust the Amazon reviews, but I took a risk on the Berrypro anyway. It arrived in good shape, and stored in a black cloth rod bag. I must say, I'm a bit impressed with the quality. The only minor issue is that the butt end cap is made of a hard plastic of sorts. When resting on my thigh/pelvic area, it slips off when I'm reeling in. Easy fix, just ordered a $3 rubber cap from Mudhole.
Casting? It did very well, although I used it on only one surf casting fishing trip. May buy another one, but I may go for a new spinner rod first.
With regard to best all around surf rod. I like my 9-10 ft Tsunami rods.
Quote from: Tuffecs on September 22, 2021, 10:25:31 PM
Riy,
I'm still eyeing the Fiblink for my next spinner rod, 11 ft.
Like Fiblink, the rod's good price had me buy a Berrypro conventional rod, 11 ft, several weeks ago. I too don't trust the Amazon reviews, but I took a risk on the Berrypro anyway. It arrived in good shape, and stored in a black cloth rod bag. I must say, I'm a bit impressed with the quality. The only minor issue is that the butt end cap is made of a hard plastic of sorts. When resting on my thigh/pelvic area, it slips off when I'm reeling in. Easy fix, just ordered a $3 rubber cap from Mudhole.
Casting? It did very well, although I used it on only one surf casting fishing trip. May buy another one, but I may go for a new spinner rod first.
With regard to best all around surf rod. I like my 9-10 ft Tsunami rods.
Ordered 3 piece Fiblink Surf Rod. I will post images.
also I found many interesting long surf rods from England and Australia. European Penn rods completely different than US models.
however shipping to US is $50-60.
Quote from: Riy2018 on September 21, 2021, 03:17:41 PM
please let me know if you have any experience with https://www.fiblink.com/products/fiblink-surf-spinning-fishing-rod-2-piece-graphite-travel-fishing-rod
Amazon has many good and very bad reviews. cant trust Amazon anymore.
I owned a surf rod made by that same company. Not the exact same model but similar price point. The guide inserts fell out within two trips and the handle started to fall apart not long after. The rod was fished maybe 6 hours before things went south. On the other hand I had a fiblink travel spinning rod that's held up fine. Personally I'd stay away.
Hope my Berrypro conv surf rod lasts a while.
Am looking for an 11' surf spinner rod for throwing 2-6 oz. Rod must weigh less than a pound. Willing to spend up to $150. Any rod recos on Penn Battalion? Prevail? Offshore Angler? Okuma? etc.
(Side note: Don't remember how I bought my 12' Ugly Stick spinner rod several years ago. Whatever, don't like it; too heavy at 25 oz.)
Hmmm....wonder if I should go over $150? Are higher end surf rods really worth it? Especially the ones that cost several hundred dollars.
While I have never owned a penn battalion I have met plenty of people with them and all seem to like them, or at least the conventional version. I can't speak for any other brands/models you asked about. As for whether you should go over $150, that I believe depends on how often you plan on using the rod, and how hard you plan on fishing it. I haven't handled too many surf spinning rods but I know as far as conventional surf rods go the rods over 100-150 are usually an improvement. However, if you only fish the surf a week out of the year that extra performance and durability may not be worth the $$. That's not to say that there aren't good or even great sub 150 surf rods out there, you just have to search around. You may want to look into the tsunami trophy and airwaves, as I've had good luck with tsunami.
Quote from: Tuffecs on September 23, 2021, 07:29:41 PM
Hmmm....wonder if I should go over $150? Are higher end surf rods really worth it? Especially the ones that cost several hundred dollars.
A lot depends on your priorities of the qualities you desire from a surf rod. The run of the mill factory produced items are mostly built down to a price, so potentially cheaper components that do not last as long as higher spec items. Then there is the quality of the actual blank, obviously higher spec carbons cost more than lower spec, and this also can have a seriously effect on the longevity of the whole rod, and the ultimate performance.
I have some seriously high performing surf rods that I use with high frequency, and most are at least 10-15 years old, and still very functional, and producing the same kind of performance as they did when new, however they were not cheap in the first place, so over a value per year basis, they have been a sound investment.
This question is not unique to the US, it rages everywhere around the surf fishing world, especially when comparing some of the very high quality products against the cheaper mass produced items from the Far East. Associates in the UK, have some of the early carbon surf rods, still performing very well after 20 years, but they were built on blanks manufactured by the likes of Conoflex, Zziplex, Harrison and Century.
Ultimately, you pays your money and takes your choice.
Quote from: Riy2018 on September 23, 2021, 01:40:02 PM
Quote from: Tuffecs on September 22, 2021, 10:25:31 PM
Riy,
I'm still eyeing the Fiblink for my next spinner rod, 11 ft.
Like Fiblink, the rod's good price had me buy a Berrypro conventional rod, 11 ft, several weeks ago. I too don't trust the Amazon reviews, but I took a risk on the Berrypro anyway. It arrived in good shape, and stored in a black cloth rod bag. I must say, I'm a bit impressed with the quality. The only minor issue is that the butt end cap is made of a hard plastic of sorts. When resting on my thigh/pelvic area, it slips off when I'm reeling in. Easy fix, just ordered a $3 rubber cap from Mudhole.
Casting? It did very well, although I used it on only one surf casting fishing trip. May buy another one, but I may go for a new spinner rod first.
With regard to best all around surf rod. I like my 9-10 ft Tsunami rods.
Ordered 3 piece Fiblink Surf Rod.
by mistake ordered Casting 11 instead of spinning. However label says Spinning Casting. I didnot feel any difference using both reels. Just first eye is smaller. Rod is good for keep in trunk, not too expensive. casting distance is ok. feels very light. paint job, handle and wraping well done. feels good on hands. see picture.
So you're using a spinner on a casting rod? Hmmm...I'm thinking you may not get max casting distance. Someone else can comment on that.
The spinner trend seems to toward smaller striper guides. The justification is a whole other discussion.
After comparing between Shimano Tiralejo Casting and Fiblink rod.
Fiblink has beautiful finish and excellent design idea but lack of reel seat, and black quality.
I decided to sent it back to Amazon.
I will wait until I can get to UK or German and get rod from there.
Wait what? No reel seat? If the tiralego is an option go with that! I mean you're comparing a $300 rod to a...
i am a Big Fan of Bass Pro's new Ocean Master Rods.
I have them in 10' 11' and 12'.
They will throw a 6 oz spider weight with bait as hard as you can throw it.
They won't fit in a trunk, but in a hatch back.
My surf rod setups are:
Ocean Master 12' with a Mag Power 990 (awesome combo)
Penn Battalion II 11' with a Ambassadeur 6500 C3CT
Penn Prevail 10' with a Penn Squall 12
I like all these combos, but like Daron said, they don't fit in a trunk.
Here in Israel most people have telescoping rods. I will buy one to try out eventually
Quote from: Riy2018 on October 09, 2021, 08:43:21 PM
After comparing between Shimano Tiralejo Casting and Fiblink rod.
Fiblink has beautiful finish and excellent design idea but lack of reel seat, and black quality.
I decided to sent it back to Amazon.
I will wait until I can get to UK or German and get rod from there.
You might consider Century rods, they make some of the finest surf casting blanks/rods around, though you do need to be aware that they make different rods for the US market, to what they make for the UK and Europe. The main difference is the US models are more 'C' curve, than 'J' curve, so a lot depends on your casting style and abilities as to which might be ideal for you. The new Fireblade is getting good reviews for the price, 13' long 4-6oz and not too heavy; been commended because it is not one of the super power rods that they built their reputation on, so much easier to get good distances and performance.
Another avenue might be Harrison Rods, they are a smaller specialist blank builder and we have used some of their blanks down here, and the 'P2' is an awesome all rounder, but the 'P3' needs some real muscle and technique. I personally fish with a 'P2', and find it exceptionally easy to get great distances from the 14'rods. There is the 'P1'as an option for a lighter sinker/lure regime, but I haven't tried it yet.
Just some thoughts if you are looking to shop beyond the borders of the US.
How much does an ocean master 12' spinning surf rod weigh?
What is considered "light" for a 12' surf rod? One pound?
I bought My Ocean Master back in early 2019. I couldn't find one online and had to call customer service to loacate one.
Unfortunately, They look to be discontinued. I have 10', 11' and 12. Looks like all they sell now is a 9' and it is only rated 15-30lbs.
Quote from: JasonGotaPenn on October 09, 2021, 11:01:27 PM
Wait what? No reel seat? If the tiralego is an option go with that! I mean you're comparing a $300 rod to a...
I got Tirajelo Spin and Castin on Facebook Market Place. for $150 each. like new condition.
By the way does any one had an experience with Fenwick Surf rods? retired man offered me his Fenwick rod for $50 unused kept in storage.
take that, thank him and run before he gets his wits back.
Quote from: Riy2018 on October 22, 2021, 07:03:42 PM
Quote from: JasonGotaPenn on October 09, 2021, 11:01:27 PM
Wait what? No reel seat? If the tiralego is an option go with that! I mean you're comparing a $300 rod to a...
I got Tirajelo Spin and Castin on Facebook Market Place. for $150 each. like new condition.
By the way does any one had an experience with Fenwick Surf rods? retired man offered me his Fenwick rod for $50 unused kept in storage.
Dude. You sound like you live in a gold mine. If you don't want it...
Just got Fenwick Surf rod. split 60/40. lightweight, cork handle, very nice finish.
Thank you for information