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Fishing => Fishing Line, Knots, Splices and Rigging => Topic started by: Keta on October 30, 2018, 01:59:44 AM

Title: I need a source for Shimano Ocea EX8 PE2 line.
Post by: Keta on October 30, 2018, 01:59:44 AM
I am clueless as to what PE stands for but I'm looking for a source of Shimano Ocea EX8 line in PE2. 
Title: Re: I need a source for Shimano Ocea EX8 PE2 line.
Post by: Bryan Young on October 30, 2018, 03:13:56 AM
Lee. See http://www.fishingworld.com.au/how-to/what-is-pe-rating. PE2 is around 20# test braid.
Title: Re: I need a source for Shimano Ocea EX8 PE2 line.
Post by: Keta on October 30, 2018, 03:19:14 AM
Then I need PE3 or PE4.  Thanks, I'll read it as soon as I finish making another wind-on topshot.
Title: Re: I need a source for Shimano Ocea EX8 PE2 line.
Post by: MarkT on October 30, 2018, 03:21:06 AM
I see it on Amazon and eBay. It looks like the 2 breaks at 40#.
Title: Re: I need a source for Shimano Ocea EX8 PE2 line.
Post by: Keta on October 30, 2018, 03:23:21 AM
Or maybe PE2 or PE3 if it's Shimano OCEA EX8.   

"Shimano, as seen with Ocea braid, will advertise a more realistic breaking strain in relation to the PE rating (i.e PE 5 Ocea braid has an advertised breaking strain of 84lb) to differentiate their product."
Title: Re: I need a source for Shimano Ocea EX8 PE2 line.
Post by: Bryan Young on October 30, 2018, 05:18:36 AM
You can always use Daiwa J-braid or boat braid. Daiwa has been making braided line linger than most if not everyone.  The had and continue to have top knotch braided lines. My Shimano Twin Drag spinning reel that I got over 25 years ago still has Daiwa Braided Line and has never let me down.
Title: Re: I need a source for Shimano Ocea EX8 PE2 line.
Post by: Keta on October 30, 2018, 04:36:38 PM
The prices are insanely high for the Shimano EX8, I'll stick with JB.
Title: Re: I need a source for Shimano Ocea EX8 PE2 line.
Post by: Three se7ens on November 01, 2018, 03:21:08 AM
Quote from: Bryan Young on October 30, 2018, 05:18:36 AM
You can always use Daiwa J-braid or boat braid. Daiwa has been making braided line linger than most if not everyone.  The had and continue to have top knotch braided lines. My Shimano Twin Drag spinning reel that I got over 25 years ago still has Daiwa Braided Line and has never let me down.

My favorite line by far for heavier weights is the daiwa saltiga boat braid.  I have a few rigs I use for casting with 55 lb and some 80 lb for bottom fishing.  Its soft, smooth, and supple.  And its color coded for depth (when it matters).
Title: Re: I need a source for Shimano Ocea EX8 PE2 line.
Post by: broadway on November 05, 2018, 01:55:20 PM
Have to agree with the guys here... Salting boat braid is smoother/more supple than JB and color coded.  I personally use both (JB on my spinners and Daiwa on conventionals) but don't fish anything more than 55 lb. braids so I don't know how the lines compare at heavier weights. 
You can't go wrong with either and the JB is cheaper.  Lee can get you whatever JB you need and at a great price, so give him a shout.
Tightlines,
Dom
Title: Re: I need a source for Shimano Ocea EX8 PE2 line.
Post by: Keta on November 05, 2018, 02:05:06 PM
I got a small spool of Berkley Fireline Tracer to try.  I hate having to order things I can not get locally and look at before buying.
Title: Re: I need a source for Shimano Ocea EX8 PE2 line.
Post by: SoCalAngler on November 05, 2018, 06:32:48 PM
PE stands for polyethylene which most of the spectra type of lines are made of. Spectra is a trade mark name and for a company to use the word Spectra it must use the Honeywell PE. Several other companies make PE and braid manufactures use it but if it is not Honeywell's stuff they call their line things line Spectrex, Boat braid, PE or what ever.
Title: Re: I need a source for Shimano Ocea EX8 PE2 line.
Post by: handi2 on November 06, 2018, 12:12:10 AM
The Daiwa braid is great. Good pricing also.
Title: Re: I need a source for Shimano Ocea EX8 PE2 line.
Post by: Keta on November 06, 2018, 03:51:56 AM
Quote from: SoCalAngler on November 05, 2018, 06:32:48 PM
PE stands for polyethylene which most of the spectra type of lines are made of. Spectra is a trade mark name and for a company to use the word Spectra it must use the Honeywell PE. Several other companies make PE and braid manufactures use it but if it is not Honeywell's stuff they call their line things line Spectrex, Boat braid, PE or what ever.

Different "PE".   https://www.oceanbluefishing.com/pe-rating-fishing-line-diameter-chart/ (https://www.oceanbluefishing.com/pe-rating-fishing-line-diameter-chart/)
Title: Re: I need a source for Shimano Ocea EX8 PE2 line.
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on November 06, 2018, 02:11:40 PM
The original PE diamter system was developed by the Japanese trying to establish a common standard of measurement. It is based upon a numbering system known as "gouw", the system that the Japanese originally used to measure the diameter of silk thread. Being a diameter based system it should mean that 2 braids of PE2 should be the same diameter -yeh right! A lot of manufacturers don't even put a PE rating on there spools. The quoted diameters and BS are usually inaccurate as well.
You can't really use calipers or a micrometer to accurately measure line diameter. So I used a measuring microscope. I took 3 PE2 braids (should be 0.235mm according to the scale) all 3 were well under that. The thinnest was 0.18mm (I can't tell you whos braids they were, the reel spools just had PE2 on them :-\). As for breaking strain buy a 50lb line from different sources - are they all going to break at the same poundage - NO. With modern lines there is so much variation in 3, 4, 8, 12 and 16 solid or hollow weave - different pick count and different batches. I have been using the PE scale for a while now - only because I know it will give me a better appreciation of how much line will go on a modern reel. Forget about it for old conventionals - just keep winding till its almost full ;D

Of course we could all go back to cuttyhunk :D ;D

Mini rant over I'm going back to my quiet place fo a glass of Rioja :)