Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn 99/Jigmaster/SurfMaster/Squidder Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: mhc on February 08, 2016, 11:36:55 AM

Title: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: mhc on February 08, 2016, 11:36:55 AM
This 99 sized jigmaster isn't big on bling but is about as corrosion resistant as I can make it.
I was lucky enough to get a set of stainless rings, sideplate locking screw and clicker assembly from Chris (Rothmar2) but a lot of the other parts are readily available.

Black Pearl internals with a set of Newell 4:1 gears, the handle shown here is from Alan T with a Tiburon grip added.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HQmvAnFBvTM/VrhxwtH_oHI/AAAAAAAAAss/yEglW4grNhQ/s800-Ic42/DSCF2534.JPG)

As far as I know penn didn't make a 99 size spool with stainless sides - I replaced the chromed brass sides from a 99 spool with the sides from a stainless 500 spool.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OnhbG8svk8M/Vrh0SDl-ZDI/AAAAAAAAAs4/Fs52Cc-S7ms/s800-Ic42/DSCF2536.JPG)

The stand is a stainless 30-66 from Scott's with the top of the 'lugs' filed down to clear the spool.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XCCkY3cPYI8/Vrh10G61e8I/AAAAAAAAAtI/CSfNgEBIN-0/s800-Ic42/DSCF2539.JPG)

Mike

I made a clutch lever out of 304 stainless
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OBhsVGiyWLc/Vrh34iQ4zdI/AAAAAAAAAtY/MCTSDGbETJs/s800-Ic42/DSCF2596.JPG)

The assembled reel, using stainless posts from 'fishingreel79' on ebay and 304 stainless screws.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RgU9BJeovrc/Vrh5M9l9IsI/AAAAAAAAAto/zy2ijaDbtRc/s800-Ic42/DSCF2538.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q5CxkZucx3I/Vrh3thyS1XI/AAAAAAAAAtU/cxRalWRXNdo/s800-Ic42/DSCF2542.JPG)

I decided to put a curved counter balanced handle from Adam (3sevens or motive fabrication) to match his curved star. I also made a curved clutch lever based on the shape of the star.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TApbutA1mpc/Vrh7ceTphwI/AAAAAAAAAt8/WTeQTeaWVgs/s800-Ic42/DSCF2598.JPG)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fjlVg0mkGBI/Vrh8AzTuCqI/AAAAAAAAAuA/1B29r-kUM38/s800-Ic42/DSCF2601.JPG)
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: DaBigOno on February 08, 2016, 11:52:08 AM
Very nicely done Mike.

I like the look of the ecentric lever, and that was pretty clever doing the spool!


Al
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: broschro on February 08, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
Looking good!
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: Keta on February 08, 2016, 03:08:29 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: PacRat on February 08, 2016, 03:59:26 PM
One of a kind! Nice work!
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: steelhead_killer on February 08, 2016, 08:21:10 PM
love that clutch lever!  Wish someone would make a bunch!
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: Rothmar2 on February 08, 2016, 11:12:05 PM
Very nicely done Mike. Great job with the clutch lever. They are a lot of fun filing the slot aren't they! ;D
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: Tightlines667 on February 08, 2016, 11:26:48 PM
Nice work!
Way to think outside the box, and get her done.  Just missing a Silverbeach Stainless (or maybe German silver?) eccentric, and a stainless knob.
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: mhc on February 09, 2016, 09:37:56 AM
Thanks for the kind words fellas. It should stand up to a bit of spray fishing from small boats.
Andy, making the eccentric levers by hand is too tedious a job, as Chis has hinted, to make them in any number. The lever could be water cut and the stops turned on a small lathe but it would probably take a lot of interest for someone to take it on.
John, The eccentric doesn't have a number stamp and was described as stainless when I bought it but I think it is probably a chromed brass one from a 500S or other jigmaster. A stainless knob would be good but there are a few other parts needed as well, the bushings would need a bronze lining in a stainless housing, the handle retaining screw, the eccentric lever retaining screw, and there was something else..... Oh yeah - stainless sideplates! ;D ;D ;D

Mike   
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: twotone on March 06, 2017, 05:30:20 AM
Nice job on the Jiggy.
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: Bryan Young on March 06, 2017, 07:14:52 AM
Sexy curves. Nice job. Love the creativity
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: STRIPER LOU on March 06, 2017, 01:44:49 PM
Very nice work! A custom classic.
..............Lou
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: Reel 224 on March 06, 2017, 02:03:32 PM
Mike; nice clean costume work, and you certainly made it your-own.

Joe   
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: mo65 on March 06, 2017, 03:23:56 PM
    Wow...I love this reel...great work! 8)
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: Maxed Out on March 06, 2017, 04:57:43 PM

Very nicely done !!

I've always questioned the "stainless" spools. They look stainless, but I'm puzzled why my magnet says it's not steel ?!?!
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: mo65 on March 06, 2017, 06:22:48 PM
Quote from: Maxed Out on March 06, 2017, 04:57:43 PM
I've always questioned the "stainless" spools. They look stainless, but I'm puzzled why my magnet says it's not steel ?!?!

   OK...I'm divin' on this...my one chance to tell Ted how something works...instead of asking how it works! :D Some types of stainless are less magnetic, and some barely at all. Here's a link discussing it: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-dont-magnets-work-on/ 

Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: swill88 on March 06, 2017, 06:31:56 PM
Quote from: mo65 on March 06, 2017, 06:22:48 PM
Quote from: Maxed Out on March 06, 2017, 04:57:43 PM
I've always questioned the "stainless" spools. They look stainless, but I'm puzzled why my magnet says it's not steel ?!?!

   OK...I'm divin' on this...my one chance to tell Ted how something works...instead of asking how it works! :D Some types of stainless are less magnetic, and some barely at all. Here's a link discussing it: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-dont-magnets-work-on/ 



I was afraid to bring it up Mo... Good on you.

steve

Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: mhc on March 07, 2017, 12:55:27 AM
Quote from: Maxed Out on March 06, 2017, 04:57:43 PM
I've always questioned the "stainless" spools. They look stainless, but I'm puzzled why my magnet says it's not steel ?!?!

Mo is right, some grades of stainless are magnetic (eg. 400 series??) while some are not (eg. 304, 306). From what I've seen and read, the magnetic grades are stronger but less corrosion resistant than the non-magnetic grades like 304 & 306. You've probably seen these spools with pitting or corrosion on the magnetic arbor/shaft but not on the non-magnetic sides.



Mike
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: Cortez_Conversions on March 07, 2017, 02:30:52 AM
Nice work Mike!
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: oc1 on March 07, 2017, 08:02:15 AM
Really nice. It would take a lot of guts to go after the spool like that.
-steve
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: RTT on March 27, 2017, 04:34:30 PM
Great work.  I have to ask how do you take the spool apart??

Ray
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: Bill B on March 28, 2017, 02:35:29 AM
Yes, I gotsa know....how did the spool take a part....and a killer build brother.....Bill
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: TongassFisher on March 28, 2017, 02:56:42 AM
Wow 😳


Very nice build
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: mhc on March 28, 2017, 08:55:23 AM
Thanks. I thought I had posted pictures of pulling the spool apart on here somewhere else but I can only find the photos of one apart.  ???

It's pretty straight forward, the spool sides are held in place by the nuts on either end of the shaft / arbor. They are a tight fit but usually can pulled by hand.  

(http://alantani.com/gallery/17/7995_07_07_17_8_28_19.jpeg)

The pinion side can be removed, but the clicker ratchet that is peened onto the tail plate side of the shaft stops the side from coming all the way off.

(http://alantani.com/gallery/17/7995_07_07_17_8_29_17.jpeg)

To remove the ratchet, I made a rough punch that fit over the shaft stub and inside the ratchet. Then supporting the spool side between two pieces of wood, I punched the shaft through the ratchet.

(http://alantani.com/gallery/17/7995_07_07_17_8_30_04.jpeg)

(http://alantani.com/gallery/17/7995_07_07_17_8_30_43.jpeg)

I didn't notice at the time, but it seems likely I've warped a spool side or two doing it this way - I sent a few pulled apart spools to Chris (Rothmar2) for another project & some of the sides were warped when measured accurately. If I do another spool, I think I will try removing the peened area of the shaft with a rotaty tool burr or something.

To put it back together I centre popped or staked the ratchet back onto the shaft - I went a bit overboard with this one, it only takes a little deformation to secure the ratchet.

(http://alantani.com/gallery/17/7995_07_07_17_8_31_59.jpeg)

Mike
Title: Re: An almost stainless 99 jigmaster
Post by: RTT on March 28, 2017, 02:04:37 PM
Mike

Thank you for the explanation.  I am going to give it a go this weekend.

Ray