I have always made my own cast nets. I ordered some more material to make me another one. I was wondering if there was any interest in a tutorial on building a monofilament panel cast net. If so I can do one when I make this one. Otherwise I won't take the time or trouble.
Bob
I've always wanted to learn. I have one that my uncle gave me since it's illegal to use that opening size in Hawaii, but is legal for use in California...maybe I should take it fishing for squid and anchovies?
So, to answer your question, I'd love to see how it is made so that I may know if I should try or just hire you.
Bryan, I started hand knitting them. Monofilament nets are better in every way. I'll never make one any other way. I'll probably have to do it in stages. Cutting out the panels. Sewing the panels together. Tying on the lead line. Brailing the net, etc. I just didn't want to go through the trouble if there wasn't any interest.
Bob
Do it, I'm always interested in learning something new. I'd like to learn how to cast the one I have consistently.
I would surely be interested in a tutorial on making cast nets. I have mended several that other people left as unsalvageable but never made one from scratch.
I've patched subsistence gill and sein nets but never a cast net, how about a tutorial on that too?
Beings how cast netting on the Leeward side is really big, I'd love a tutorial.
Ron
I'll try to get started on it soon. Bob
Go for it. There are a lot of Florida guys on here and it would be great.
Quote from: conchydong on July 24, 2013, 09:55:22 PM
Go for it. There are a lot of Florida guys on here and it would be great.
X2, I'm not a Floridian, I'm Italian and still want to see it .
Go for it Bob ;).
Thanks Bob.
Are they even legal anymore? Especially in CA, seems like nothing else is.
Hey Bob: I think it would be great to see the process. Go for it. Dominick
I have made cast nets both, completely hand sewn and from panels. Doing it from panels is definitely easier and faster. I'm considering doing another one since the one I have is probably past the point of repair, and I'd like to see how you do it. After the one I did from the panels, I decided to make some modifications but haven't tried it yet. Where do you get your netting from?
Makule, I get my netting from Brunson Net company in Foley, Alabama. With fuel prices up, its cheaper most of the time to get it shipped. I ordered my netting today and expect it here tomorrow afternoon.
I was taught how to knit a net by a friend of my fathers. He was a coon #### from La. I was probably 14 years old or so. for some reason he liked me. I spent many nights wading in the bay toting his fish sack because he waded so deep I couldn't throw mine. I've made changes to how I make my panel nets over the years. I will show how I make my personal nets. I don't wade much anymore so I will be building a brail or English style net instead of a bag or Spanish style net. Bob
Quote from: Alto Mare on July 24, 2013, 10:07:45 PM
Quote from: conchydong on July 24, 2013, 09:55:22 PM
Go for it. There are a lot of Florida guys on here and it would be great.
X2, I'm not a Floridian, I'm Italian and still want to see it .
Go for it Bob ;).
U don't have to be from Florida to throw casts nets lol,,,, all up and down east coast we use them all the time......and id love to see how one is built so i can repair mine after it gets torn up at night from a accidental shark in net etc....
I'm down here in Mobile,AL and everywhere I go on the Gulf, I see people catching their bait and etc with cast nets.
I keep wanting to get one or two mesh sizes and learn to throw'em.
A feisty mullet/ladyfish would be a dinner bell to most sharks, great live bait.
And not paying $3.-$4. per dzn for live shrimp would be nice too.
My interest is not in making them but in repair and maintenance. I have one that I need to replace the swivel and that appears to mean replacing the braille lines too. Not looking forward to doing it. Is it a problem if the lines are a little longer than they "need" to be?
VW, the brail lines should all be close to the same length. I've replaced the swivel before without redoing the braille lines. If the brails are whipped you can just cut the whipping and cut the swivel. then you can use a split link and swivel or just use cord through the swivel and rewhip.
I promise I will get on this. It may be a few weeks though, I have some things I have to take care of first. I'm not a pro but I've made probably 50 0r 60 nets in my time. I've tried different ways to make them but I now only use 10 panel nets. Most of the custom makers here make 8 panel nets. To each his own. The 8 panel nets are faster to make and open well but I think a 10 panel net is better.
Here is a link to some info I found on the web. http://fishnetsa2z.com// Look at the illustrated Encyclopedia of nets.
I do some things differently but this goes into pretty good detail.
Bob
Thanks for the info I would like to learn how to make panel nets.
Bob,
I'd like to see the process of building one from scratch, as I've spent a couple of hours untangling one and wondered if I could make one almost as fast ;)
The time I'm speaking of I had casted on a pod of bunker and as I see the net sink I see the striper go in for the kill on one of them. Needless to say, I had a very unhappy striper (tore up the net with its dorsal) and about 30 adult bunker, which literally took 2 hours to untangle. I later gave the net to a charter capt. I know was able to fix it and use it for his business.
Bring it on!
Thanks
Dom
Dom, I did something similar. I threw my net over a school of catfish thinking they were mullet. I must have caught 100+ in the throw. They twisted up in the net. I tried to get them out. I managed to get one out and being young and dumb, I kicked it. The spine on the dorsal fin went through my tennis shoe and into my heel and broke off. I pulled off my shoe but I couldn't get it out without pliars. I had to limp back about a 1/2 mile to get a pair. I left the net. Maybe someone else got them out. ;) Bob
That is some bad luck! 1/2 mile with a spine in the heel... you're more of a man than I ;)
I'm working on throwing a pretty heavy 10'er, but I think I need to go back to the gym cause after about 3 throws I'm done :-\
Dom
Ouch... One of my fears now and before were moray eels when casting nets.
My nets are generally about 10 to 12 lbs, with a radius of from 10' to 16'. The 16' net was too big and hard to completely open, but it was good for mullet.
A friend of mine used to use 12' to 14' nets (radius) that weighed anywhere from 24 to 36 pounds. Asked him why so heavy and he said he lost two nets after throwing over a school and they all decided to swim away in the same direction. The guy was short, but was a weightlifter so the weight didn't bother him. Some of the places he used to throw were so rough and deep that I wouldn't even think of throwing.
Quote from: broadway on August 07, 2013, 06:21:44 PM
That is some bad luck! 1/2 mile with a spine in the heel... you're more of a man than I ;)
I'm working on throwing a pretty heavy 10'er, but I think I need to go back to the gym cause after about 3 throws I'm done :-\
Dom
No, just less intelligent! I won't do that again.! :( I throw mostly 12 ft nets between 12-15 lbs. I do have a 14ft net with 21 lbs of lead on it but I can't throw it many times. 14ft is the largest net legal in Florida.
Its mostly technique but it does take strength to throw one far. I can throw my 12ft nets to the end of a 35 ft hand line but the 14 footer barely makes it past my feet. Bob
Bob,
I believe you're right... I've been told it's 80% technique, 10% strength, and 10% luck.
I just have to get down what works best for me. Being a lefty there aren't many videos online or anyone that can show me because their all righties, so what I know I've done on my own.
Up here in NY Harbor there are tons of jellyfish that get caught in the net, so I prefer to not drape the net over a shoulder or put any part of the net in my mouth (put icy hot on your lips and you'll see why.)
From what I can tell I'm not holding the lead line with the my pinky long enough at the end of the throw which is what opens it to that perfect circle. Even though I'm conscious of it I haven't had many successful throws with the big guy. No problem with the 6'-8' but that don't catch many bunker ;)
Thanks
Dom
Quote from: broadway on August 08, 2013, 01:35:43 AM
Bob,
I believe you're right... I've been told it's 80% technique, 10% strength, and 10% luck.
I just have to get down what works best for me. Being a lefty there aren't many videos online or anyone that can show me because their all righties, so what I know I've done on my own.
Up here in NY Harbor there are tons of jellyfish that get caught in the net, so I prefer to not drape the net over a shoulder or put any part of the net in my mouth (put icy hot on your lips and you'll see why.)
From what I can tell I'm not holding the lead line with the my pinky long enough at the end of the throw which is what opens it to that perfect circle. Even though I'm conscious of it I haven't had many successful throws with the big guy. No problem with the 6'-8' but that don't catch many bunker ;)
Thanks
Dom
Dom, the problem is you need a left-handed net. Flip that thing upside down, just as you would with a right handed reel ;) ;D ;D
Sal,
I wish it were that easy.
I'm ambidextrous with reels but not cast nets... YET!
Thanks for the sound advice ;)
Dom
Banned down here..Get caught with one anywhere near the water and they'll take you car, boat and trailer......then they take you to Court and the fines really hurt :'( >:(
Sal is quite an incredible guy. He not only thinks outside of the box, he also thinks upside down.
Quote from: Mr Grumpy on August 08, 2013, 09:00:59 AM
Banned down here..Get caught with one anywhere near the water and they'll take you car, boat and trailer......then they take you to Court and the fines really hurt :'( >:(
Sounds like a man of experience. No wonder you are called Mr. Grumpy. ;D ;D Dominick
There still legal in NC, just don't throw into the wind around pier pylons, no matter how many pogies it is......
I still have the net, it's pieced back together with mono and masons line
Wonder where Mr. Grumpy is at there still legal in Texas.I always get my own bait if I can help it and a few shrimp dinners along the way. :o
Mr Grumpy is in Sydney NSW Australia. 8) Nope never been caught with one. But have seen the results from people who have been caught with one in their car. No need to. You'd be surprised how easy it is to catch live bait with a loaf of bread and a mullet trap.
Even for prawns (Shrimp as you guys call them) its as simple as a headlight and and a scoop net.
Fisheries down here is very highly regulated. You even have to have a licence to go fishing, and here's the real kicker if I take my kids fishing they don't need a licence because they're under 12yrs of age, but if I help them by touching the rod I need to have a licence. >:( :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW5tfbIPtXk&feature=plcp
Same in the US if you don't have one lots of money and gear goes buy buy.
Cast nets are very popular in Australia. I live in Queensland where it is legal to have them. My primary use for them is to catch large banana prawns. Usually in Summer we have good rain and this sparks the whole prawn run through to the first cold snap in May/June. I use a very large top pocket net with a chain lead line. Most of our prawning is in deep water 4 - 9 Metres deep. The object is to sound around until prawns are seen on the depth sounder and throw the net over them. Late in the season I get them at the local boat ramp with a draw string type net. The bag limit is one 10 litre bucket per person and we have accomplished this in just a few casts when the prawns are thick.
I forgot to mention that cast nets are very popular in the North of Australia due to crocodiles.
Got plenty of time on your hands? Make a cast net by tying each and every knot:
http://abacoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3753