Yes, you read it right, you were not wrong!!!
Well I am guessing that the 80 will be an absolute beast but will probebly weigh 105 ounces or more.
How nice would a MAK 70 have been weighing about 75 ounces to compete with the penn 70 VIS but without silly line capacity rings (I want the sides of my spool to be smooth to help protect my line from abrasion) and with makaira quality gearing and a thrust bearing.
Where I come from they say: <<don't set the table without knowing what you're going to eat>>
We are waiting to see the official technical data sheet with all the data.
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It looks like this special series will be released in May.
Team Hard life specialise in LBS fishing they have done hundreds of spooling videos loads of 50W and 80W along with every avet from sx to 130ex but I have never seen them do an 80 non wide Avet EX or old penn 80 narrow ( non wide) so what makes Okuma think a narrow 80 is going to offer any advantage over an 80W in land based Sharking where capacity is king and the rods are left in rod holders for hours.
Now a 75 ounce ( VIS is 74) Mak 70 about same width as a 50W but with enough capacity to allow 1000 yds of 130 hollow with over a hundred yards of 130 mono top shot (like a VIS) would be the ultimate stand up big marlin giant bluefin reel
The new Igfa rules for crank swordfish fishing will make this reel an excellent weapon. Especially in Australia and NZ where the crank technique has a good share of followers. For swordfishing in the United States of America I see it as tough, they are too concentrated with electric reels, California and the Gulf of Mexico aside.
Quote from: MexicanGulf on March 30, 2024, 08:52:31 PMThe new Igfa rules for crank swordfish fishing will make this reel an excellent weapon. Especially in Australia and NZ where the crank technique has a good share of followers. For swordfishing in the United States of America I see it as tough, they are too concentrated with electric reels, California and the Gulf of Mexico aside.
Yes can see that an 80 narrow would be good for that. they also do a bit of deep daytime dropping for swords off watamu kenya where I fish for Marlin. My comments regarding a 75 ounce Mak 70 (gunmetal but with gold MAK 50 gear ratios ) are totally biased because I want one.
Kindest Regards Gary
Quote from: gary760 on March 30, 2024, 09:27:05 PMQuote from: MexicanGulf on March 30, 2024, 08:52:31 PMThe new Igfa rules for crank swordfish fishing will make this reel an excellent weapon. Especially in Australia and NZ where the crank technique has a good share of followers. For swordfishing in the United States of America I see it as tough, they are too concentrated with electric reels, California and the Gulf of Mexico aside.
Yes can see that an 80 narrow would be good for that. they also do a bit of deep daytime dropping for swords off watamu kenya where I fish for Marlin. My comments regarding a 75 ounce Mak 70 (gunmetal but with gold MAK 50 gear ratios ) are totally biased because I want one.
Kindest Regards Gary
Kenya is my dream. I love swordfishing, now it's been an obsession for several years. But only respecting the igfa rules, so I'm a crank purist
h I have some official information, this new model was intentionally designed for Landbased Shark Fishing. This also explains the hammerhead shark design on the side plate left.
Having said that, I personally think it is the ideal reel for swordfishing too. I hope Okuma usa reads my comment.
As said above, the 80 Narrow will probably get some attention from people targeting swords here in New Zealand. At the same time, the 50 Narrow has already proven to be adequate for most fish.
Quote from: MexicanGulf on March 30, 2024, 09:33:43 PMQuote from: gary760 on March 30, 2024, 09:27:05 PMQuote from: MexicanGulf on March 30, 2024, 08:52:31 PMThe new Igfa rules for crank swordfish fishing will make this reel an excellent weapon. Especially in Australia and NZ where the crank technique has a good share of followers. For swordfishing in the United States of America I see it as tough, they are too concentrated with electric reels, California and the Gulf of Mexico aside.
Yes can see that an 80 narrow would be good for that. they also do a bit of deep daytime dropping for swords off watamu kenya where I fish for Marlin. My comments regarding a 75 ounce Mak 70 (gunmetal but with gold MAK 50 gear ratios ) are totally biased because I want one.
Kindest Regards Gary
Kenya is my dream. I love swordfishing, now it's been an obsession for several years. But only respecting the igfa rules, so I'm a crank purist
They also catch lots of swords, often multiple fish in the night trolling with combination skirts/squid on the surface on outriggers and with one on a downright. I have only personally fished for them once for a couple hours while travelling through the night to fish the north kenya banks for yellofin tuna. I was woke from my sleep with a take on the downrigger and after a very short fight I caught a baby one.
Quote from: boon on March 31, 2024, 07:54:20 AMAs said above, the 80 Narrow will probably get some attention from people targeting swords here in New Zealand. At the same time, the 50 Narrow has already proven to be adequate for most fish.
Yes the Makaira 50 narrow is my go to Marlin/ Giant bluefin (UK) reel I owned 4 since the SEa ( I like the gunmetal colour but wish they had the gold reels low speed gear ratio)was introduced about 14 years ago they have been really good look pretty much like new and have performed flawlessly however one did have slight corrosion deep on the spool when I stripped the braid after 8 years. I recently bought a couple of 50W SEa but wish they were 70s
Congratulations Gary! :al Congratulations Gary!
I have always had Shimano when I fished from the shore, now it's been a few years since I only bought okuma, let me say that I have become a huge fan of this brand. My makaira 50 SEA narrow for me it is the most beautiful reel in the world! But here in the Mediterranean Sea, often when fishing with sword , 350 pound blufin tuna arrive... A larger reserve of braid would be useful to me.
Quote from: MexicanGulf on March 31, 2024, 08:45:59 AMCongratulations Gary! :al Congratulations Gary!
I have always had Shimano when I fished from the shore, now it's been a few years since I only bought okuma, let me say that I have become a huge fan of this brand. My makaira 50 SEA narrow for me it is the most beautiful reel in the world! But here in the Mediterranean Sea, often when fishing with sword , 350 pound blufin tuna arrive... A larger reserve of braid would be useful to me.
I spool my MAK 50s with 600 yes 100lb seaguar threadlock or Jerry brown hollow with 100 yards of 130lb Jerry brown on top in both cases and then a top shot of 140 yards of 1mm 100lb clear mono ( sufix superior or momoi being my preferred choices) that gives me 850 yards plenty for bluefin if the boat can follow them. However with blue marlin 500 yards can be gone before the crew get the other 5 trolling rods in and then there is a lot of cranking with a now very small diamiter spool to recover the now huge bow in the line. Hence the two 50w for a bit more capacity , but a 70 the same proportions as a 70VIS would be the dogs bollocks
About 18 years ago I baught a pair of 80W tiagras and they were never spoiled or left the house until I sold them- An 80W is just too much metal for a travelling angler.
But a 75 oz MAK70 would be over 10 ounces lighter than a Tiagra 50W
( maybe John from okuma will take note )
I fish mainly in daytime swordfishing, the ideal for me is to have 1300 yards of 60 Pound hollow core (I also use seaguar, although it is not marketed in Europe)To it I connect a short leader of about 45 feet with 130 Pound varivas Tournament line. If the weight of the New MK 80 narrow remains contained at around 78 ounces okuma wins on all fronts
Quote from: boon on March 31, 2024, 07:54:20 AMAs said above, the 80 Narrow will probably get some attention from people targeting swords here in New Zealand. At the same time, the 50 Narrow has already proven to be adequate for most fish.
Do you have any data on the braid capacity of the MK 50 narrow?
Quote from: MexicanGulf on March 31, 2024, 09:46:22 AMI fish mainly in daytime swordfishing, the ideal for me is to have 1300 yards of 60 Pound hollow core (I also use seaguar, although it is not marketed in Europe)To it I connect a short leader of about 45 feet with 130 Pound varivas Tournament line. If the weight of the New MK 80 narrow remains contained at around 78 ounces okuma wins on all fronts
At less than 80 ounces maybe even 90 I would be very tempted ( very much a want not need - I can resist all things apart from temptation :) but I cant see them being less than 100 in my unknowledgable opinion :)
I wonder if Alan Tani has any news on the matter...
When talking braid, 16 strand braid is must smoother through the water, less resistance, also is smaller diametre than 4 strand, so you can get more on a spool, also when a fish is moving so fast, like marlin & others, its a big advantage, good luck, cheers Don.
The reel will be produced in a few examples and will be marketed at the end of May/beginning of June.
Quote from: MexicanGulf on March 31, 2024, 09:46:22 AMI fish mainly in daytime swordfishing, the ideal for me is to have 1300 yards of 60 Pound hollow core (I also use seaguar, although it is not marketed in Europe)To it I connect a short leader of about 45 feet with 130 Pound varivas Tournament line. If the weight of the New MK 80 narrow remains contained at around 78 ounces okuma wins on all fronts
That's a lot of braid, why so much? People fishing them for swords here tend to spool up with ~750m of 80lb hollow and a long 100lb mono leader.
Quote from: boon on April 01, 2024, 10:02:25 PMQuote from: MexicanGulf on March 31, 2024, 09:46:22 AMI fish mainly in daytime swordfishing, the ideal for me is to have 1300 yards of 60 Pound hollow core (I also use seaguar, although it is not marketed in Europe)To it I connect a short leader of about 45 feet with 130 Pound varivas Tournament line. If the weight of the New MK 80 narrow remains contained at around 78 ounces okuma wins on all fronts
That's a lot of braid, why so much? People fishing them for swords here tend to spool up with ~750m of 80lb hollow and a long 100lb mono leader.
in reality, those who fish in a targeted search for swordfish must deal with three major problems which also determine the equipment to be used...
1° habitat of the swordfish during the day it prowls the seabed an average of 1650 feet deep. Due to these depths it is necessary to maintain a good reserve in the reels, a half-empty reel increases the drag resistance.
2° swordfish have a very delicate mouth structure, the risk of pulling the hook is always very high. In case of catching large specimens you must dose the drag of the reels sparingly. The fights are long and exhausting, many have fought fish for up to 5 consecutive hours.
3° When you practice swordfishing you have no idea what can get trapped in your hook, you look for swordfish but you can find a giant bigfin tuna or a thresher shark or a big mako. the thread reserve is primordial in this technique.
Practicing this technique with less than 1200 yards of line is reckless.
A 50N is a narrower version of the 50? There's a 50N, 50, 50W?
Quote from: MexicanGulf on April 01, 2024, 11:25:44 PMQuote from: boon on April 01, 2024, 10:02:25 PMQuote from: MexicanGulf on March 31, 2024, 09:46:22 AMI fish mainly in daytime swordfishing, the ideal for me is to have 1300 yards of 60 Pound hollow core (I also use seaguar, although it is not marketed in Europe)To it I connect a short leader of about 45 feet with 130 Pound varivas Tournament line. If the weight of the New MK 80 narrow remains contained at around 78 ounces okuma wins on all fronts
That's a lot of braid, why so much? People fishing them for swords here tend to spool up with ~750m of 80lb hollow and a long 100lb mono leader.
in reality, those who fish in a targeted search for swordfish must deal with three major problems which also determine the equipment to be used...
1° habitat of the swordfish during the day it prowls the seabed an average of 1650 feet deep. Due to these depths it is necessary to maintain a good reserve in the reels, a half-empty reel increases the drag resistance.
2° swordfish have a very delicate mouth structure, the risk of pulling the hook is always very high. In case of catching large specimens you must dose the drag of the reels sparingly. The fights are long and exhausting, many have fought fish for up to 5 consecutive hours.
3° When you practice swordfishing you have no idea what can get trapped in your hook, you look for swordfish but you can find a giant bigfin tuna or a thresher shark or a big mako. the thread reserve is primordial in this technique.
Practicing this technique with less than 1200 yards of line is reckless.
There is more than one way to skin a cat ;) The women's all tackle world record Swordfish was caught on a Talica 50, with much less than 1200 yards of line.
There is a solution to the soft mouths. People here use more than 20kg of drag on Swords so they don't have to fight them for hours unless it's a really big fish.
Quote from: boon on April 02, 2024, 07:10:44 AMQuote from: MexicanGulf on April 01, 2024, 11:25:44 PMQuote from: boon on April 01, 2024, 10:02:25 PMQuote from: MexicanGulf on March 31, 2024, 09:46:22 AMI fish mainly in daytime swordfishing, the ideal for me is to have 1300 yards of 60 Pound hollow core (I also use seaguar, although it is not marketed in Europe)To it I connect a short leader of about 45 feet with 130 Pound varivas Tournament line. If the weight of the New MK 80 narrow remains contained at around 78 ounces okuma wins on all fronts
That's a lot of braid, why so much? People fishing them for swords here tend to spool up with ~750m of 80lb hollow and a long 100lb mono leader.
in reality, those who fish in a targeted search for swordfish must deal with three major problems which also determine the equipment to be used...
1° habitat of the swordfish during the day it prowls the seabed an average of 1650 feet deep. Due to these depths it is necessary to maintain a good reserve in the reels, a half-empty reel increases the drag resistance.
2° swordfish have a very delicate mouth structure, the risk of pulling the hook is always very high. In case of catching large specimens you must dose the drag of the reels sparingly. The fights are long and exhausting, many have fought fish for up to 5 consecutive hours.
3° When you practice swordfishing you have no idea what can get trapped in your hook, you look for swordfish but you can find a giant bigfin tuna or a thresher shark or a big mako. the thread reserve is primordial in this technique.
Practicing this technique with less than 1200 yards of line is reckless.
There is more than one way to skin a cat ;) The women's all tackle world record Swordfish was caught on a Talica 50, with much less than 1200 yards of line.
There is a solution to the soft mouths. People here use more than 20kg of drag on Swords so they don't have to fight them for hours unless it's a really big fish.
I use 9/17 kg of drag
Quote from: MarkT on April 02, 2024, 06:36:18 AMA 50N is a narrower version of the 50? There's a 50N, 50, 50W?
well I think when you are talking big game type 50s and 80s
As far as i know you only have
50 and 50w and 80 and 80w
People sometimes throw the term in narrow because the Wides are so popular and common on big game sportfishers for this size and type of reel. (well apart from the long range crowd where the non wide 50 variation is pretty much the standard cow reel)
the correct term would be 50 lbs topless
I have a silver Mak 50 SEa to go with the 15T, 16, 20. All topless 'cuz guys prefer topless!
Now I only buy Okuma, it's becoming an obsession to collect all the various models! ::)
I've been searching online for news on the weight of the new Makaira 80 Topless for a week... Unfortunately, nothing at all, does anyone have any news?