Hello Guys !
Yesterday I've got a Maxel SeaLion 08 single speed reel from a friend. He have tried a couple of reels during saltwaterfishing for Cod and Halibut. He said that a couple of reels tested by different persons have drag problems ?
The drag have been adjusted and feelt nice and smooth on "strike". When he hooked a big 20+ kg cod (they can take up to 30 m line in the first run when you hook them) the drag did "bite". Like the drag was adjusted to full strike ? He checked the drag on "strike" and it was normal. He fished on and the reel worked well. After a couple of cods, the same thing happened again. The drag did "bite" while fighting a fish and the braided line snapped.
I haven't teared the reel apart yet, but the only thing I can come up with is that there's some trouble with the drag washer. The plan was to grease it with Cals if its dry or maybe change the washer to an old Shimano washer. I don't know what the old Shimano washers is called ?
But there's another problem. The drag also completely stops to work ? When you have the reel set to strike and hook a fish, the drag won't work at all..... A couple of time it felt like freespool. The nordic distributor knows about the problem, but the don't have a solution of the problem.
Anyone here who have had the same problem ? Any idea what the problem could be ?
Regards !
/Drisse
Bump this one since i need fast help.....
I found a schematics http://www.maxelamerica.com/schematics/SL08.pdf or http://www.maxelamerica.com/schematics/OSL08.pdf, but am not sure if it's the same reel.
I suspect but am not certain, but it sounds like the CAM assembly is getting stuck or skipping/jumping.
Thanks for helping out Bryan. Very appreciated :)
I will have a look at that. But as I mentioned before it's a couple of brand new reels.
So it will be hard to find out. Any idea how I can test the parts you listed ?
Thanks so far :)
Its a matter of looking an to see if anything could be binding.
i was thinking some more and it could also be the shaft that is binding with the bearing. I've never seen it on new reels, but on used reels, sometimes the bearing would get stuck due to the grease or rust and then pop back off.
Good luck and post pictures if you find or not find anything.
Bryan
I still haven't found anything that could cause this problem ? I forgott to mention that
the reel have been used in cold weather. Seems like a longshoot, but you never know ?
The temperature have been from 0°C down to a couple of minus °C .
drisse, let's eliminate the easy possibility first. did you have loose spectra on the spool? sometimes the spectra can dig into a spool full of loosely packed spectra and lock up. the loosely packed spectra could be down pretty deep. you would have to pull all the spectra off the reel onto a large plastic service spool and repack it. you will know this is the cause when you get half way down and find this
(http://alantani.com/gallery/2/1_23_01_10_11_47_50_1.png)
otherwise, you are looking at a full tear down and rebuild of this reel. if you have carbon fiber drag washers, just wipe off the excess grease, slap on a thick coat of cal's grease, wipe off the excess and reassemble the reel.
i'm betting on the spectra..... ;D
Thanks alot Alan !
I will spool off all the braided line and see how it looks.
I have already tearded almost the whole reel apart, but I can't find anything wrong.
The reel had a dry carbonfiber washer. I gave it some Cal's .
long story short explained. One of our fishing friends had same troubles with the reel during fishing in cold temperatures in Norway. After long test in close concert with the German general importer they found out, that the problem occured from a non plan drag plate #76, non plan pressure plate #78 and a too week press spring #77
Replacing the three parts solved the problem, also at minus 19°C for some hours in deep freezer.
Recommend to discuss with your importer/dealer or feel free to contact the German Importer.
www.fishing-adventure.com/
this the thread in the German NAF Fishing Board
www.norwegen-angelforum.net/showthread.php/44287-Maxel-Sealion-OSL-08-D-
Good luck
stickied!!!!
Alan, I checked the line on the spool and it was ok.
Thanks alot for the help Wolli. Very appreciated. Now I have something to check on the reel.
Will have a look at it tomorrow and see what I can find out. Maybe change the parts directly
since I can't see that there's anything wrong with them.
Wolli, from which schematic are the partnumbers ?
They doesn't match up with the partnumbers on the
schematic I have.
http://www.maxelfishing.com/images/services/schematic/SL/OSL08.pdf
Regards !
/Drisse
Fellow Swede maybe? Thought I recognized your nick from FS?
Hope the reel works out! :)
/K
You're right Mandelstam ! :)
Wolli, I now saw that there were different partnumbers on the schematic from the US site.
/Drisse
Drisse,
sorry, forgot to ask for the exact model you own.
Maxel sells different 08 single speed reels and i used the schematics mentioned by Brian
In the German Board we discussed the OSL 08 D(dual drag)
Whatever the part nos, the problem was solved after changing the mentioned parts.
complete list of Maxel Reel Schematics:
www.maxelfishing.com/services.html
Hi again !
The reel I have at home is called Maxel 08. Should be this one http://www.maxelfishing.com/images/services/schematic/SL/OSL08.pdf
My reel looks the same as the reel on the picture on the US site. But the schematics are different ?
http://www.maxelamerica.com/schematics/OSL08.pdf
So I wonder if its still the same problem ?
Hi there Drisse - I know this is an old topic but saw this and just had to reply. You haven't told us how old the reel is or when last it was serviced. I have used an identical reel extensively for jigging for tuna (yellowfin and longfin) and have never experienced any similar problems – and tuna are renowned for their pulling power. If the reel has been used a lot, then it may be that the drag washer needs replacing, however what you are describing is more consistent with the grease having dried up. This can happen on any reel with a carbon drag. Very early Maxel reels were assembled using a grease which was inclined to dry out and cake. In my experience, the best solution is a light greasing with Cals plus a sprinkling of graphite dust. Because of the pressure on these drag systems, it is very important to service the reels annually, especially if they have been standing unused. Could you let me know if you still have the problem, and if so, if this helps? Thanks! ;D
ReelTech
Hi ReelTech !
It was a new reel I had at home. Only fished about 5-6 times. The CT washer was dry, so I greased with Cal's, just as a test. Don't know how the story ended because they had trouble with a bunch of Maxel reels on the fishingcamp. But I think it was non plan metalwashers in the dragstack and the reels should now be fixed.
hello and greetings from the P.I.! servicing a sea lion OSL06 for a friend can anyone please tell me how to unscrew the spool (screw part 671), it seems to be stuck and i am just wondering how i should loosen the screw. should it be clockwise or counter-clockwise? thanks and mabuhay to everyone!
Check the Jiggingmaster tutorials
tighten drag
normal thread
I leave the handle on and use a electricians screwdriver and let the handle trap against driver.
I havent checked schematics or anything
But I think its the screw in the drag lever that releases the spool right?
good luck Jon
working on a maxel tutorial at the moment
Thanks for the reply Jonnou, I was finally able to take out the spool screw! And yes Jon the drag had to be engaged so that you'll be able to loosen the spool screw. Good solid internals, well lubricated gears and drag was adequately greased. It haven't taken out the seals of the bearings yet to be able to lube and grease them though. Will post pics of a disassembled one later. Thanks again and mabuhay!
Glad you got it
always best to ask before forcing it
Insane drag on these little reels!!
Jon
My buddy and I own 5 of the older style Maxel 08 single speeds that click while you reel and another buddy has 2 of the newer 06 sealions that are silent. No problems so far on any of these in daily charter service jigging for yellowtail with heavy drag settings. But when 3 were sent back for service, they had a lot of salt in them, and we are pretty fanatic about washing them with fresh daily.
Factory sent some "different" daily cleaning procedure to my friend, so I will try to find out their suggestions.
Very pleased with these reals so far.