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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => D.A.M. Quick => Topic started by: Fishgolfman on March 14, 2023, 06:00:38 PM

Title: Quick o matic rescue. Found reel has wrong parts ?
Post by: Fishgolfman on March 14, 2023, 06:00:38 PM
Clean up a CA shed find to discover its a quick o matic. Cleaned up well.it was missing a 270 drag knob. When tightened will barely oscillate and bind. I think shaft is wrong for this reel as spool seat is odd. No quick o matic to compare.
Title: Re: Quick o matic rescue. Found reel has wrong parts ?
Post by: Fishgolfman on March 14, 2023, 06:06:27 PM
Opened up and Cleaned up a desert shed find!! A quick o matic!! I think shaft is wrong on this reel. See pictures. Found it this way without functioning drag knob. New knob causes reel to bind. No knob , reel oscillates up and down with no problem.
Title: Re: Quick o matic rescue. Found reel has wrong parts ?
Post by: foakes on March 14, 2023, 07:04:32 PM
There are supers with the same model number —- but (4) separate versions.

There are parts with the same part number —- but will not interchange.

Here is the correct drag knob for the earlier Super LC 270.

On the right, in the photos.

Best, Fred
Title: Re: Quick o matic rescue. Found reel has wrong parts ?
Post by: oldmanjoe on March 14, 2023, 07:06:47 PM
I do believe that your click gear on the main shaft is upside down ...
Title: Re: Quick o matic rescue. Found reel has wrong parts ?
Post by: foakes on March 14, 2023, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: oldmanjoe on March 14, 2023, 07:06:47 PMI do believe that your click gear on the main shaft is upside down ...

Yes, that is probably the issue, Joe.

Best, Fred
Title: Re: Quick o matic rescue. Found reel has wrong parts ?
Post by: Fishgolfman on March 14, 2023, 09:35:32 PM
Since click plate is fused to shaft ( with rust) thought it might be the way it was on this model. Now it makes sense with a little penetrating oil and heat. It should be removed and flipped on top. Hopefully will work.  Then there are always Fred dq shaft parts... with the right knob!!
Title: Re: Quick o matic rescue. Found reel has wrong parts ?
Post by: oldmanjoe on March 14, 2023, 11:03:50 PM
 Once you flip the click gear, it will work !!    The spool went to far in the basement .
Title: Re: Quick o matic rescue. Found reel has wrong parts ?
Post by: foakes on March 15, 2023, 01:39:03 AM
It knew those would come apart to remove the click plate —- but I have never had any need to take one apart. 

Have always cleaned them in lacquer thinner and the US cleaner —- and found no need to separate the two.

But I guess someone did in years past.

Best, Fred
Title: Re: Quick o matic rescue. Found reel has wrong parts ?
Post by: Fishgolfman on March 15, 2023, 10:45:24 PM
I thought it was going to be easy to flip over! Prior owner mangled the roll pin and flattened it! Will require drilling out and new pin. Unless i grind the head down one side and tap it out??
 Fred to rescue!? I will need a new shaft and pin and the correct 3 legged knob.
Title: Re: Quick o matic rescue. Found reel has wrong parts ?
Post by: oldmanjoe on March 15, 2023, 11:07:34 PM
  File the pin flush , than punch it out .  You don`t have to go completely out . just enough to clear the shaft . 
Title: Re: Quick o matic rescue. Found reel has wrong parts ?
Post by: Fishgolfman on March 15, 2023, 11:12:59 PM
Thats plan A. But got to have a plan b and c!!
Title: Re: Quick o matic rescue. Found reel has wrong parts ?
Post by: foakes on March 15, 2023, 11:14:39 PM
Here is how I support the spool shaft and click ring for removal and reinstallation.

Like all of the quality DQ reels —- the tolerances are tight as well as exact.  There is no slop, slip, or looseness.

It just fits as it should.

I always have a few hardwood blocks that I use for removing gears from axles, crank handles, bearings from pinions, etc.

Just drill a few various sized holes in some hardwood like Alder, Birch, Walnut, or Oak —- not Pine or other soft woods.

Sand them down if you wish (I do just because it looks better).

And you will find many uses.

I removed this pin yesterday —- it was tight, and required a large hammer along with a 1/16" or 3/32" punch.

To get it back in, I use a larger punch so there is no slippage.

I would be glad to send you another new, complete spool shaft.

But you have nothing to lose by giving this a try.

The key is a steady, solid support —- a large hammer —- and a steady hand and eye.

Best, Fred
Title: Re: Quick o matic rescue. Found reel has wrong parts ?
Post by: oldmanjoe on March 15, 2023, 11:17:18 PM
::)  Proceed  with plan A , Plan B is already in motion ...
Title: Re: Quick o matic rescue. Found reel has wrong parts ?
Post by: Fishgolfman on March 15, 2023, 11:22:49 PM
Will do! When back.  Business trip and fishing in Florida for two weeks!!
Title: Re: Quick o matic rescue. Found reel has wrong parts ?
Post by: Gfish on March 16, 2023, 05:43:32 AM
On Fred's schematic it looks like the click gear is on a spool spindle as a single part, #31370.
Looks like a real well-made reel Fishgolfman.
Title: Re: Quick o matic rescue. Found reel has wrong parts ?
Post by: foakes on March 16, 2023, 06:22:47 AM
Quote from: Gfish on March 16, 2023, 05:43:32 AMOn Fred's schematic it looks like the click gear is on a spool spindle as a single part, #31370.
Looks like a real well-made reel Fishgolfman.

Hi Greg —-

That schematic is just the first page one of my ABU Shop Service Manuals.

It was just handy to take a couple of photos on.

But typically, the click disc, pin, and spool axle all come as one unit.  I have a few dozen of these new —- and that is how all of them are.  Even though they do come apart.

Best, Fred
Title: Re: Quick o matic rescue. Found reel has wrong parts ?
Post by: oldmanjoe on March 16, 2023, 12:35:19 PM
           Tibet information some click gear are two piece .
Title: Re: Quick o matic rescue. Found reel has wrong parts ?
Post by: Walter61 on March 16, 2023, 04:17:00 PM
Very nice Joe.

Here are some pictures of a very early Super. Roll number 000356

(https://i.ibb.co/rGQHZK8/P1180639.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)


There is a metal-washer (1) and another Cellon-washer (2) above the ratchet wheel.

(https://i.ibb.co/J34z91b/P1180650.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

Walter