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Title: Mystery drags
Post by: Bill B on February 07, 2020, 01:08:41 AM
I found what I believe to be Smoothie Drags in a 505HS.....are they still worth using? If so run dry or add thin coat of Cals? Thanks for the input...Bill
Title: Re: Mystery drags
Post by: RowdyW on February 07, 2020, 01:12:26 AM
If they are smoothies then run them dry.
Title: Re: Mystery drags
Post by: alantani on February 07, 2020, 04:12:04 AM
stick with greased carbon fiber......   :-\
Title: Re: Mystery drags
Post by: Jigtosser on February 07, 2020, 04:26:32 AM
Bill,
Yes, they are old smoothies...
Just clean them up and install Dry, don't grease them.
Used them a lot before CF washers came along.
They worked pretty good back in the day...
Greased CF are smoother  ;)
Dan
Title: Re: Mystery drags
Post by: akfish on February 07, 2020, 11:41:07 AM
Smooth Drag stopped making them for a reason. Any water or oil on them and they get very sticky. Get some carbon fiber drag washers and fish them with Cal's drag grease.
Title: Re: Mystery drags
Post by: Donnyboat on February 07, 2020, 03:23:49 PM
Good question Bill, you have the reel in pieces, so do it properly Carbon Fibre drag washers grease the with Cals grease or a teflon bace grease, you will get a smooth start up that way, and the CF washers will give you over 20 PSI pressure, and last much much longer, good luck, cheers Don.
Title: Re: Mystery drags
Post by: Gfish on February 07, 2020, 03:37:59 PM
Can those things be sanded off a-little?
Title: Re: Mystery drags
Post by: RowdyW on February 07, 2020, 03:49:37 PM
Why???? They are outdated.
Title: Re: Mystery drags
Post by: PacRat on February 07, 2020, 04:32:54 PM
Yep...what Rowdy said. I think smoothies are a step backward. They work good for a minute but when they get bad...they're really bad.
Title: Re: Mystery drags
Post by: Alto Mare on February 07, 2020, 04:54:51 PM
In the past I have heard that those will outperformed most in extremely cold environment.

I cannot confirm, I haven't tried them, but do have some in one of my bin.

Sal
Title: Re: Mystery drags
Post by: Swami805 on February 07, 2020, 07:47:23 PM
They used to be the only game in town and worked ok but CF is so much better
Title: Re: Mystery drags
Post by: Gfish on February 07, 2020, 09:29:05 PM
Quote from: RowdyW on February 07, 2020, 03:49:37 PM
Why???? They are outdated.

So they SHOULDN'T be accorrding you guys. CAN they be smoothed out with fine wet/dry sandpaper and reused?
Title: Re: Mystery drags
Post by: mo65 on February 08, 2020, 04:04:20 PM
Quote from: Gfish on February 07, 2020, 09:29:05 PM
Quote from: RowdyW on February 07, 2020, 03:49:37 PM
Why???? They are outdated.

So they SHOULDN'T be accorrding you guys. CAN they be smoothed out with fine wet/dry sandpaper and reused?


   If we're going to stop using gear that is "outdated"...you guys better ditch those 113h things...HA!!! I tried sanding and cleaning some smoothies for a Jigmaster...and at high settings it chattered like a squirrel that just spotted you under his tree. On the other hand...I cleaned up a set in a light spinning reel and it performed flawlessly! I guess like many items, smoothies have their ups and downs. Maybe we could save them for when the brother-in-law is on the boat. Oil 'em up real good first...;D
Title: Re: Mystery drags
Post by: Bill B on February 08, 2020, 06:30:14 PM
Thanks guys....for $4 I will replace them and not have to worry.....you think they would work as under the gear washer?  Bill
Title: Re: Mystery drags
Post by: RowdyW on February 08, 2020, 06:35:28 PM
They weren't used for that originaly so I don't think it's a good idea now. Just store them with the other useless parts in the round file.  ::)
Title: Re: Mystery drags
Post by: jurelometer on March 23, 2020, 05:53:21 AM
According to the Jack Erskine website, the smoothies were fiber coated with a dry lubricant.   So you don't want to put a wet lubricant on top, and sanding will just remove more dry lubricant.  It might be possible to revive them with the right dry lubricant if they are clean.   If you ask Dawn at Smooth Drag, she might have some info.    But Rudy is right,  better off switching to carbon fiber.

The extreme smoothies look suspiciously like Rulon.

-J