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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Daiwa Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: ez2cdave on December 14, 2013, 09:23:34 PM

Title: "DOUBLE DOG" Daiwa SEALINE Reels . . .
Post by: ez2cdave on December 14, 2013, 09:23:34 PM
Alan & other "guru's",

Can the "Double Dog" mod ( Penn Senators ) be done to Daiwa SEALINE Reels (30H, 50H, 300H, 350H, 400H, 450H, 600H, 900H, 910H) ?

Thanks !

Dave
Title: Re: "DOUBLE DOG" Daiwa SEALINE Reels . . .
Post by: broschro on December 15, 2013, 12:20:36 AM
I don't see why not. I thought some were ???
Title: Re: "DOUBLE DOG" Daiwa SEALINE Reels . . .
Post by: ez2cdave on December 15, 2013, 04:52:40 AM
Quote from: broschro on December 15, 2013, 12:20:36 AM
I don't see why not. I thought some were ???

The reason I'm asking is that the side-plates on SEALINE "H" reels are METAL, unlike the PLASTIC ones on the PENN's.

I have not seen any "Double Dog" converted SEALINE "H" reels . . . yet.
Title: Re: "DOUBLE DOG" Daiwa SEALINE Reels . . .
Post by: Dominick on December 15, 2013, 04:58:33 AM
Quote from: ez2cdave on December 15, 2013, 04:52:40 AM
Quote from: broschro on December 15, 2013, 12:20:36 AM
I don't see why not. I thought some were ???

The reason I'm asking is that the side-plates on SEALINE "H" reels are METAL, unlike the PLASTIC ones on the PENN's.

I have not seen any "Double Dog" converted SEALINE "H" reels . . . yet.
Dave:  you be the pioneer and post pictures of the progress.  If you need help, we are here.  Dominick
Title: Re: "DOUBLE DOG" Daiwa SEALINE Reels . . .
Post by: floating doc on December 15, 2013, 04:59:08 AM
There is a double dogged 600H for sale on this site.
Title: Re: "DOUBLE DOG" Daiwa SEALINE Reels . . .
Post by: day0ne on December 15, 2013, 05:32:04 AM
They can be double dogged but it is different from double dogging a Penn, since the whole bridge, gear, dog setup on a Sealine is somewhat different. The bridge, gears, etc, come out of the  side plate in one piece and the dogs are sprung off the bridge, not the side plate. See here, 7th picture:

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=18.0

or here, pictures 17 and 28

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=225.0
Title: Re: "DOUBLE DOG" Daiwa SEALINE Reels . . .
Post by: gstours on December 15, 2013, 05:40:55 AM
Hi Dave here are some diawa dog pictures. the alum plate is milled with a 4 fluted end mill. the 2nd dog was modified to use the coil spring,

(http://i1344.photobucket.com/albums/p660/gst6814/378_zpsc311188a.jpg) (http://s1344.photobucket.com/user/gst6814/media/378_zpsc311188a.jpg.html)
(http://i1344.photobucket.com/albums/p660/gst6814/149_zps5488a930.jpg) (http://s1344.photobucket.com/user/gst6814/media/149_zps5488a930.jpg.html)
(http://i1344.photobucket.com/albums/p660/gst6814/541_zps379763f4.jpg) (http://s1344.photobucket.com/user/gst6814/media/541_zps379763f4.jpg.html)
(http://i1344.photobucket.com/albums/p660/gst6814/538_zps70f092d2.jpg) (http://s1344.photobucket.com/user/gst6814/media/538_zps70f092d2.jpg.html)
(http://i1344.photobucket.com/albums/p660/gst6814/537_zps59207cc6.jpg) (http://s1344.photobucket.com/user/gst6814/media/537_zps59207cc6.jpg.html)  these should give you an idea, but write me, love to help, gst.
Title: Re: "DOUBLE DOG" Daiwa SEALINE Reels . . .
Post by: MFB on December 15, 2013, 07:09:18 AM
Nice work, have fitted Alan's drag upgrade to my 900H & fairly confident it will stop most things with fins.

Rgds

Mark
Title: Re: "DOUBLE DOG" Daiwa SEALINE Reels . . .
Post by: LTM on December 15, 2013, 07:13:44 AM
Gary/gstours,

Where are all the pictures of your Daiwa dog mods, I thought I saw quite a few on the forum months ago? Didnt you get approx 50# static drag from your 600h? Dont be modest man; show the world!!

Leo
Title: Re: "DOUBLE DOG" Daiwa SEALINE Reels . . .
Post by: ez2cdave on December 15, 2013, 01:42:04 PM
Quote from: day0ne on December 15, 2013, 05:32:04 AM
They can be double dogged but it is different from double dogging a Penn, since the whole bridge, gear, dog setup on a Sealine is somewhat different. The bridge, gears, etc, come out of the  side plate in one piece and the dogs are sprung off the bridge, not the side plate. See here, 7th picture:

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=18.0

or here, pictures 17 and 28

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=225.0

Thanks for your reply and helpful info. I had already seen the thread on the 900H and have used it in the past to work on my reels.  An excellent tutorial !
Title: Re: "DOUBLE DOG" Daiwa SEALINE Reels . . .
Post by: ez2cdave on December 15, 2013, 01:45:45 PM
Quote from: gstours on December 15, 2013, 05:40:55 AM
Hi Dave here are some diawa dog pictures. the alum plate is milled with a 4 fluted end mill. the 2nd dog was modified to use the coil spring,

. . . these should give you an idea, but write me, love to help, gst.

I like that approach to adding the 2nd dog . . . Why was the Main Gear being milled ?
Title: Re: "DOUBLE DOG" Daiwa SEALINE Reels . . .
Post by: doradoben on December 15, 2013, 10:47:03 PM
gstours, I'm not very familiar with machine shop procedures, are you using a drill press to mill the drag washer reliefs in the main gear ? 
Title: Re: "DOUBLE DOG" Daiwa SEALINE Reels . . .
Post by: Robert Janssen on December 16, 2013, 12:13:28 AM
Quote
are you using a drill press to mill the drag washer reliefs in the main gear ? 

Yes, it looks like it, using a plunge action in small increments / depth of cut so as to not upset the inherent non-rigidity of the drill press and chuck. That'll work, if done very carefully. Indexing looks like it is done with a careful eyeball measurement.


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Title: Re: "DOUBLE DOG" Daiwa SEALINE Reels . . .
Post by: Ron Jones on December 16, 2013, 06:14:08 AM
I like the repeatability of the drywall screw located jig! Whatever gets it done, he's done amazing things to his reels.
Ron
Title: Re: "DOUBLE DOG" Daiwa SEALINE Reels . . .
Post by: madday on February 17, 2014, 02:59:34 AM
last night i thought the same dual dog for my daiwa 600H,
is there any link to the modification? which partially already posted above....  ???

big thanks.... ;)
Title: Re: "DOUBLE DOG" Daiwa SEALINE Reels . . .
Post by: floating doc on February 17, 2014, 05:35:59 AM
Yeah! More Sealine mods! Well... another look at the same ones, but hey, this is really good work! It deserves another look.  :D
Title: Re: "DOUBLE DOG" Daiwa SEALINE Reels . . .
Post by: LTM on February 17, 2014, 06:31:33 AM
Dont know the link, just do a search on "gstoours" thats Gary's handle and you should find all of his posts on Daiwa mods. As a matter of fact, my side plate and components are in the air heading to Gary in Alaska as we speak/type.

Leo