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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => D.A.M. Quick => Topic started by: foakes on November 27, 2016, 04:07:06 AM

Title: A Rare & Little Known D.A.M. Quick Reel
Post by: foakes on November 27, 2016, 04:07:06 AM
A comparable reel in size to the Mitchell 300 -- is the D.A.M. Quick 220.

Although, it is possibly 3 times as strong as a Mitchell.

A little known and rare Version of the 220, is the scarce and lightly produced 221.

Generally, when a knowledgeable and savvy angler uses a properly set up 221 -- they will never use anything else in this class.

Reasons? --

5:1 high speed gears, instead of 3:1.  This allows a more natural presentation of a lure or bait when fishing rivers -- because the faster gear ratio is able to keep up with a swiftly moving bait in the current -- without snagging slack or bumping the bottom, reversible crank for right or leftys.

The longer crank gives the angler more torque and a better grip for speed when needed.

These reels are overbuilt to last -- components are oversize steel bearings, steel worm drive pinion supported at both ends, oversize main gear made from phospher cut bronze, steel crank shaft, 8 position positive A/R that stops the gear every 45 degrees at the main gear -- not the rotating head.

If you get a chance to pick up a 221 -- it would be hard to find a tougher and more reliable spinner for trout, bass, stripers, salmon, cats, and such.

I built this one for a client this afternoon.

Impressive mechanics and engineering.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: A Rare & Little Known D.A.M. Quick Reel
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on November 27, 2016, 11:58:27 AM
Lovely reel Fred.
While scanning fleabay, as you do, I came across this reel:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-fine-German-DAM-Quick-super-fixed-spool-fishing-reel-with-regulator-dial-/272246121881?hash=item3f63222599:g:kWAAAOSw1DtXJJ9I

I've never heard of a regulator dial before :-\
Have you seen one of these before?
Title: Re: A Rare & Little Known D.A.M. Quick Reel
Post by: gumpie44 on November 27, 2016, 03:58:25 PM
Its A Line Counter, Used On Some Early DAM Super Models. Not Often Seen
Barry :)
Title: Re: A Rare & Little Known D.A.M. Quick Reel
Post by: Aiala on November 27, 2016, 05:10:46 PM
Quote from: foakes on November 27, 2016, 04:07:06 AM
A little known and rare Version of the 220, is the scarce and lightly produced 221.

Thanks to Fred's extraordinary kindness, I unexpectedly own one of these gems:

(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah207/ladyaialaAiala/P1000870_zpstcnypzlc.jpg?t=1480180130)

(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah207/ladyaialaAiala/P1000868_zpsn3044fvl.jpg)

At the time Fred gifted it to me, being wholly unfamiliar with the DAM Quick line, I didn't realize what a little treasure it really was, but now I certainly do!  :o

As always, Fred's generosity knows no bounds... THANK YOU, dear friend!  :)

~A~



Title: Re: A Rare & Little Known D.A.M. Quick Reel
Post by: foakes on November 27, 2016, 06:13:18 PM
Quote from: Tiddlerbasher on November 27, 2016, 11:58:27 AM
Lovely reel Fred.
While scanning fleabay, as you do, I came across this reel:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-fine-German-DAM-Quick-super-fixed-spool-fishing-reel-with-regulator-dial-/272246121881?hash=item3f63222599:g:kWAAAOSw1DtXJJ9I

I've never heard of a regulator dial before :-\
Have you seen one of these before?

Out of 30 or 40 270 Supers -- I have 3 or 4 with this feature.

Best,

Fred

Title: Re: A Rare & Little Known D.A.M. Quick Reel
Post by: Alto Mare on November 27, 2016, 10:05:02 PM
Nice reels.
Someone out bid me by one dollar today, that hurts  ::).
This was a nice reel as well
http://www.ebay.com/itm/132011203885?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Sal
Title: Re: A Rare & Little Known D.A.M. Quick Reel
Post by: foakes on November 28, 2016, 12:40:01 AM
Got the snow shoveling done -- so building a few more 220 & 221 from parts out of the bins.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: A Rare & Little Known D.A.M. Quick Reel
Post by: Cortez_Conversions on November 28, 2016, 12:51:06 AM
Pretty little reels fred, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: A Rare & Little Known D.A.M. Quick Reel
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on November 28, 2016, 10:17:33 AM
Fred what does the 'regulator dial' actually do?
Chris.
Title: Re: A Rare & Little Known D.A.M. Quick Reel
Post by: gumpie44 on November 28, 2016, 03:35:05 PM
The Dial On The DAM Super Was Called The Quick-O-Mat,  You Would Set The Dial to 0, Make Your Drop Or Cast, Wind The Line In And The Dial would Read Distance in Yards. Was Not A Popular Option, Not That Useful. Had A DAM Super  In The 70s Fished So. CA Piers and Jetties.
Barry
Title: Re: A Rare & Little Known D.A.M. Quick Reel
Post by: foakes on November 28, 2016, 04:42:28 PM
Quote from: Tiddlerbasher on November 28, 2016, 10:17:33 AM
Fred what does the 'regulator dial' actually do?
Chris.


Barry is correct...

It was introduced around 1954 in the old Standard 260 and a year later as the 270 Super was introduced.

Somewhat useful -- but really just a gimmick.

Like most of the fishing gear we buy -- the designing is not so much to catch fish -- but to catch Anglers.

One could cast out line -- set the Quick-O-Mat to "0" -- reel the line back in -- then you would have a measurement of how deep or far your bait was.

Measured meters in Europe, yards in the US.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: A Rare & Little Known D.A.M. Quick Reel
Post by: mycodad on December 01, 2016, 02:36:52 PM
I'm a new member with a finessa 285 which I love for the power but would like more speed. Is there any chance you could build me a 221 or put me in touch with one? Thanks, dave
Title: Re: A Rare & Little Known D.A.M. Quick Reel
Post by: foakes on December 01, 2016, 03:30:34 PM
Hi mycodad --

Welcome!

A 221 is a very good reel -- and high speed -- IMO, a solid choice.

However, if looking for the same size as the 285 Finessa (which is the 330 size) another possibility to consider might be a 331.  It is high speed at 5:1 -- with a longer crank also.

Or you could go with the 221 for a bit smaller reel than your current 285 -- so you could have both sizes.

I would be glad to do either one, if you decide to go that route -- I do have both options.

Really depends a lot on the type of fishing, target species, and what you want to end up with.

PM me, and we could discuss your options -- Glad to help, if possible.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: A Rare & Little Known D.A.M. Quick Reel
Post by: mo65 on December 01, 2016, 04:01:46 PM
   That 221 is so cool...built like a tank!  8)
Title: Re: A Rare & Little Known D.A.M. Quick Reel
Post by: CH on January 06, 2017, 08:38:26 PM
Hi :)
I found this forum from searching up info on my Quick 110 & 110N reels.
Decided to join as there is mucho info on reel repair, history and upgrade options.

I remember seeing my first Quick reel while a youngster wade fishing for smallmouths in the Great Miami river in Dayton, Ohio.( all I ever wanted to do when younger) I was using my treasured Mitchell 308, Fenwick 4ft. 10in rod and a white rooster tail (as usual). Ran onto this older guy in his 20's that was U.L. fishing too. He was using a 110 Quick and a #0 mepps with a squirrel tail. He was slaying them at about 3 to 1 on my hits. ( found out that day the Mepps out fished the Rooster Tail in those streams anyway)

We got to talking and fishing together and he let me try out his Quick 110 after bragging it up long and hard to me. Well, it was love at first cast. I saved up, did several chores for my grandma and bought one. (EXPENSIVE REEL! Almost $30). Still have it and it's been my main UL reel since. I own 2 other 110, a 110N and other makes. But still go back to the tried & true 110.

I got pretty good at catching really big fish on the UL quick set up. Use to be my hobby when young of fishing for big carp in the spring flood times. And lots of blue & channel cats. And of course trout, crappy, sauger, largemouths and such. Moved to Florida for a spell and used the 110 in fresh and salt catching all sorts of stuff.


BTW-- still have my Mitchell 308 too and still use it off and on.

Anyways, after reading these posts by  Fred aka "foakes", Ive got stoked up and now am gonna have to get me a Quick 221. Also interested in maybe upgrading to CF drag setups as the Quick drag definitely could be a bit smoother. ( thinking the 110N would benefit from the CF upgrade more than the 110)

Also cleaning and renewing some reels that have not been used for years due to minor repairs they needed. Loving every minute of it.

Learning a load from reading your posts Fred! :) Thanks a million for sharing your knowledge and for the inspiration to remain a fan of the good ole tried and true rods and reels from the days when they really made stuff right. I see a renewed interest in collecting & fishing vintage equipment. I'm getting urges for split bambo spinning rods and Italian reels all the sudden now too, LOL.

Thanks again Fred :)

Title: Re: A Rare & Little Known D.A.M. Quick Reel
Post by: foakes on January 06, 2017, 09:29:51 PM
Sounds like you have some decent and well-proven reels, CH --

Nice thing about the Quicks, is the ability to bring in a much larger fish than the reel was typically designed for.

This is due to the oversize bearing, steel worm drive pinion, bronze gears, frame supported pinion front and rear, oversized steel crank axle, positive spring-loaded A/R every 45 degrees at the underside of the main gear, tight tolerances,  built and designed by engineers who fish and test their products non-stop -- always looking to improve just slightly on a near perfect product, all in an aircraft grade aluminum casing built to last multiple decades of fishing.  Built with simplicity and common sense.  They just work...

Instead of the latest, modern, sharp looking, Tupperware Bling-Master from Wal-Mart or Big 5 -- just exploding the gears or watching as the reel locks up and desinegrates into pieces on the shoreline -- the Quick just quietly, capably, and routinely brings the larger fish we all hope to catch -- to the bank. 

No fanfare -- and ready to keep doing its job for many decades.

It is very possible, if some company was manufacturing a reel exactly like a 40 year old Quick today -- it would be in the $300 price range -- and well worth it.

I like the Italian reels such as Alcedo Microns, and others -- but parts are basically unavailable without another donor reel.

As for old bamboo rods -- they generally do not work so well for me because of their age and brittleness.

So I still go with a 5' Fenwick, Wright-McGill, WonderRod, Ugly-Stik, or similar -- only in glass, much more flexible and forgiving.

Post some pics when you get a chance, of your gear.

Best,

Fred

Title: Re: A Rare & Little Known D.A.M. Quick Reel
Post by: CH on January 06, 2017, 10:18:14 PM
Quote from: foakes on January 06, 2017, 09:29:51 PM


Nice thing about the Quicks, is the ability to bring in a much larger fish than the reel was typically designed for.

This is due to the oversize bearing, steel worm drive pinion, bronze gears, frame supported pinion front and rear, oversized steel crank axle, positive spring-loaded A/R every 45 degrees at the underside of the main gear, tight tolerances,  built and designed by engineers who fish and test their products non-stop -- always looking to improve just slightly on a near perfect product, all in an aircraft grade aluminum casing built to last multiple decades of fishing.  Built with simplicity and common sense.  They just work...

Instead of the latest, modern, sharp looking, Tupperware Bling-Master from Wal-Mart or Big 5 -- just exploding the gears or watching as the reel locks up and desinegrates into pieces on the shoreline -- the Quick just quietly, capably, and routinely brings the larger fish we all hope to catch -- to the bank. 

No fanfare -- and ready to keep doing its job for many decades.

It is very possible, if some company was manufacturing a reel exactly like a 40 year old Quick today -- it would be in the $300 price range -- and well worth it.


Best,

Fred



Yes, you can catch some pretty big fish on good UL tackle. Believe it or not, I landed a 43 lb. German Carp out of a river one time with a Quick 110 - 4lb. test and a Fenwick rod. Took a long time and I had a buddy wade in and net land it in the end, but job done! Hooked the darn thing using a little soft craw under a crappie bobber.  As long as you're lucky enough to keep em out of snags or really fast current you are good to go. Feels great to bring in a big fish on light tackle using skill and luck.

Yes, I always knew Quicks were super great reels. Just never knew the details of just how fantastic they really are until I read your posts here.

Your posts made me pull an old 110 out of the drawer today that's needed fixed for years. Bail screw twisted off due to my son (when young) trying to tighten it up as it loosened and fell out one day fishing. Just ordered a new screw and rotating head ( don't think I can remove broke screw without messing up threads) off ebay. Might even be you if you sell parts there.

Old Fenwicks always were my favorites & still fish a couple. As far as the split bamboo, I see they still make what look to be decent ones in Japan for a decent price. But yes, I reckon finding vintage ones still usable would be a chore. I use to have one years ago that was fiberglass impregnated, if I remember right.

Sounds like you think upgrading to CF drag is best for 110 & 110N still being fished? ( I actually fish all my gear - none of it is collect to display stuff). If so do you sell these to fit these reels? Now what I do is keep the drag washers lightly lubricated with spray lithium... seems to work better that way than dry or 3in1 oiled.

I'll shoot some pics of some of my gear one day and post it up. Don't have a fantastic collection and of course I have nothing compared to you. Wish I did!

Thanks again for sharing all your knowledge. :)