If you had to pick one weight for your flat fall jigs for the Morro Bay area what weight would you choose?
I'm thinking 8 or 10oz......am I in the ballpark?
Pj
No experience in Morro Bay. JM(NS)HO, but for fun ona charter, when the wind n' waves aren't so bad, and the depth is <300 ft., spinning reel(for less line friction on the drop), n' 3 - 6 oz. is easier to use(esp. all day). You'll thank me when you hook that 20lb.+ Ling, right?right? Not! Mabey 2 rigs: lite & heavy. I've never used jigs that large, but couldn't see myself workin that hard for very long. (NS)= "not so".
Gfish
PJ I would pick the 10oz, mostly because of current and boat load.
If I was fishing private or 6 pack I would go for 6-8 oz.
Best
JT
Hmm. I'm curious: Are we certain that a jig will drop faster on a spinning reel than a conventional? If the conventional has excellent free spool, I would think the line drop would be faster than on a spinning reel because line coming off a spinning reel has a small amount of resistance as it unwinds off the spool. Whatever, I almost never fish spinning tackle and I always sleeve the spools of my conventionals.
Perhaps yer right Akfish. Sometimes when a conventional spool gets goin good it seems like it's almost pushin the line out. I do notice my first couple a casts witha spinner are "rough", then the line starts ta behave itself. Might be function of how a given reel lays line back on the spool? Sounds like a field test to me! Hmmm..., how to make the results meaningful: same exact line(size, age, mfg., etc.), jig, rod, conditions. And what conventional reel ta match a Shimano Stratic 8000? Jigmaster-casts good for conv. but gots bushings, Fin Nor Leathel 100 vs. a narrowed 113H? Hmmm... "It may not be productive, but it's gonna be fun!" (Aprox. Quote from Tarfu's signature)
Theories are fun n' easy, but testin just gotta be done. Up untill now the spinner use thing seemed faster, but It was just my theory.
Gfish
I think the best out of the box free spool is on the Avets. Remove any bearing shields and add good oil and they scream. Some say the Avets with Magic Cast are slower, but I'm not sure I agree.
Quote from: theswimmer on January 22, 2017, 06:38:24 PM
PJ I would pick the 10oz, mostly because of current and boat load.
If I was fishing private or 6 pack I would go for 6-8 oz.
Best
JT
That's kinda what I was thinking too..... Guess I'll only be buying 10oz jigs from now on......
PJ,
More than likely you will be tossing the flat fall away from the boat as it flutters downward. The heaviest I would recommend is 8oz. The heavier the less flutterat the top and will near the bottom before a 10oz will hit full flutter of fishing around 100 feet.
There is quite a bit of information out there about the Mitchel competition casting spinners. The trick for the pros back then was to hand wind on the line and hae enough line on the spool that the cast line never touched the edge of the spool. There are pictures of 3 and 4 stage 300 spools to allow this to happen. Seems like an awful lot of work when a conventional pays out line with no interference as long as it has no brakes and no levelwind.
Ron
Quote from: Bryan Young on January 23, 2017, 04:21:55 AM
PJ,
More than likely you will be tossing the flat fall away from the boat as it flutters downward. The heaviest I would recommend is 8oz. The heavier the less flutterat the top and will near the bottom before a 10oz will hit full flutter of fishing around 100 feet.
This makes sense to me.......Guess I'll be buying 2 different weights.....
Depends on what exactly your dropping, if it's a flutter jig 8oz., if it's a lead head with grub body I like the heaviest I can get, I'll fish 16oz.
some fishos are using a very light line below the jig, with a half a house brick, or concrete weight fixed to it, when it gets to the bottom, give it a good heave, the light line breaks, leaving the weight on the bottom, then commence jiging. cheers donnyboat.
Quote from: Gfish on January 22, 2017, 07:52:27 PMHmmm... "It may not be productive, but it's gonna be fun!" (Aprox. Quote from Tarfu's signature)
Hey does this make me published author now ;)....... better watch out Mike C. ::). Bill
Quote from: theswimmer on January 22, 2017, 06:38:24 PM
PJ I would pick the 10oz, mostly because of current and boat load.
If I was fishing private or 6 pack I would go for 6-8 oz.
Best
JT
heaviest shimano flat fall up to 250 g, about 8 oz.
The general rule is a gram per foot of depth. Flat Falls max out at 250gm, 8oz. You can go heavier with knife jigs. I like the Shimano Flat side jigs too. I have a, I think, 8oz Jax jig that always seems to get bit that I use with a shrimp fly above it.
Regardless of what weight you use, these are slow fall jigs. They flutter down slowly. If you want to get down to the bottom faster,
something that defeats the flutter would help either a little tension on the line as it falls or adding a little extra weight. If the current
is strong, you might be better off with standard jigs w/shrimp fly or inchiku type jigs.