Ok guys here is my Jigmaster and I want to be able to cast it without destroying my thumb.
(http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii608/saltydogreelrepair/20130902_131448_zpsaf19211e.jpg) (http://s1262.photobucket.com/user/saltydogreelrepair/media/20130902_131448_zpsaf19211e.jpg.html)
Step one is get your supplies:
5 min. epoxy $ 2.99
zinc coated washers #8 flat .97 cents
rare earth magnets $ 2.99 for 10
mixing cup and applicator ( reusable )
screwdriver for removing left side plate
All for under 10.00 bucks
(http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii608/saltydogreelrepair/20130902_185422_zpsbb834ad8.jpg) (http://s1262.photobucket.com/user/saltydogreelrepair/media/20130902_185422_zpsbb834ad8.jpg.html)
Remove left sideplate and epoxy washers to it in an even pattern.
(http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii608/saltydogreelrepair/20130904_084428_zps407d535a.jpg) (http://s1262.photobucket.com/user/saltydogreelrepair/media/20130904_084428_zps407d535a.jpg.html)
Then epoxy washers to the clicker side of the spool in an even pattern, this will add to the effect of the magnets far greater than the aluminum spool can and slow the reel further.
(http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii608/saltydogreelrepair/20130903_144150_zps1bfdc7d0.jpg) (http://s1262.photobucket.com/user/saltydogreelrepair/media/20130903_144150_zps1bfdc7d0.jpg.html)
Now place your magnets on the left side plate washers in a + - + format on each side, this can be easily established if you hold the stack of magnets, then take the first on and place the way you take it off the stack then the next you flip upside down and place the the next is right side up. Repeat for the other side.
(http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii608/saltydogreelrepair/20130902_185008_zps5267b46c.jpg) (http://s1262.photobucket.com/user/saltydogreelrepair/media/20130902_185008_zps5267b46c.jpg.html)
Now you have a finished magged reel that you can romove the mags when pitching small live baits or you can throw heavy iron with all in one package. The freespool without mags is 95 seconds, not bad but with the mags it is down to one, hope this helps others.
(http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii608/saltydogreelrepair/20130903_145643_zpsc0d65837.jpg) (http://s1262.photobucket.com/user/saltydogreelrepair/media/20130903_145643_zpsc0d65837.jpg.html)
This method also allows you to mag a plastic spooled reel for those that have them and like Dacron line for casting.
Nice info, Salty. I'm gonna have to break down and mag one soon. Bob
I did this one so I could unmag it on the fly just in case conditions or situations changed without having to carry another reel on the beach.
That's one of the things I like about it. It would be easy to change the number of magnets to get it like you want it. Bob
Holy cr#p that's a lot of magnets :o :o do you even need a thumb??lol. I found that there are cups you can put the mags into so they are not in danger of coming loose.
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/MITSERVCS/null_zps675e8342.jpg)
You just need to get the cups to the right height and then cut notches in them so you can remove or add mags as needed.
Bob
Well when you are throwing lead or irons that can weigh up to 8 oz. you need a lot, plus with being removable you can adjust the magnetic strength. That's why I use so many I don't like blisters on the thumb. On the coming loose part I have never had that happen but once when I was dingaling enough to use ss washers, it didn't work to good. :o :o ::) DOH!
Quote from: saltydog on September 04, 2013, 02:23:50 PM
Then epoxy washers to the clicker side of the spool in an even pattern, this will add to the effect of the magnets far greater than the aluminum spool can and slow the reel further.
This method also allows you to mag a plastic spooled reel for those that have them and like Dacron line for casting.
Never heard of that, never would have thought of trying it. Thanks for contributing to our education.
Magnets belong on refrigerators. Thumbs do not. ::)
Plastic spool? How's that work?
Quote from: floating doc on September 13, 2013, 11:16:54 AM
Plastic spool? How's that work?
Looks like the spool got the washer treatment to work in concert with the magnets mounted on the sideplate.. :)
Correct, the mags on the sideplate slow the spool by interacting with the washers on the spool thus creating a field that slows the spool.
Quote from: saltydog on September 13, 2013, 03:57:36 PM
Correct, the mags on the sideplate slow the spool by interacting with the washers on the spool thus creating a field that slows the spool.
I have it now. I overlooked the magnets on the spool.
Thanks!
No magnets go on he spool.
Hey saltydog, have you tested without any washers on the spool?
Btw, this would work even better on the older reel that has the quick-release left sideplate.
It works equally well with either the 500, 500l, or the 500s and just any reel you want to mag, I have even magged 9/0 's for guys who like to cast them, not many of them left. I did an ABU 6000 the other day for a guy who likes to cast heavy jigs and irons for Stripers.
Thanks very neat. Just a question, do you get any spool wobble or is that why you use 6 magnets?
Quote from: saltydog on September 13, 2013, 07:30:33 PM
It works equally well with either the 500, 500l, or the 500s and just any reel you want to mag, I have even magged 9/0 's for guys who like to cast them, not many of them left. I did an ABU 6000 the other day for a guy who likes to cast heavy jigs and irons for Stripers.
Just meant it would make switching magnets much easier.
You shouldn't get any spool wobble unless your bushings or bearings are worn out or your shaft is slightly out of round. I use 6 because the reels I use cast very heavy jigs, 4 to 8 oz. and when you want to do lighter you remove some of the magnets like when I do 2 to 4 oz. jigs I usually take out 3 of the magnets on one side and when I am throwing small shad, under 4" with a split shot I don't use any at all. This system of magging allows you to adjust for the baits and conditions you will face. Another thing you can do to adjust how your magged reel throw is the oil or grease you use on the bearings or bushings. In the case of hot climates use a heavy grease like Yamaha to help slow the reel because a lighter oil like TS301 or any of the super slick oils will allow the reel to overspin and could burn your bearings up in hot weather, now in cold weather use a lighter grease or when really cold a lighter oil to control overspin temp.
Quote from: saltydog on September 13, 2013, 07:30:33 PM
It works equally well with either the 500, 500l, or the 500s and just any reel you want to mag, I have even magged 9/0 's for guys who like to cast them, not many of them left. I did an ABU 6000 the other day for a guy who likes to cast heavy jigs and irons for Stripers.
I'm magging my 4/0w soon, I can do a spin lob on my 9/0 with no mags lol
Hi SaltyDog, just saw this post and information on the mag of these reels. Cool stuff I am going to mag a reel and see how it will work for me. Thanks for the post and your efforts we all like to learn and do this kind of stuff.
tl
jig-guy / Bill
Thanks for sharing your process on this. Where do you order get the magnets and what size should they be? I cast my jigmasters frequently. This would be a nice setup.
Thx Tate
You can get them at the local hardware store or online on fleabay or other sites
Thanks for this Salty, I'm now going to give this method a try on both my squidders and surfmasters.
How would this work out with a plastic spool squidder? I figure the same ,right?.....bob v
Quote from: bob v on February 03, 2015, 10:48:58 PM
How would this work out with a plastic spool squidder? I figure the same ,right?.....bob v
This doesn't work with plastic spools. You can add the washers to the spool like salty dog did and it may help. However the idea behind the maggin is eddy current which needs the aluminum spool to work.
I'm not touching that one Jason. ;D
I just know I miss the Dog. :'(
So why would the magnetic field not be set up with the washers glued on the squidder spool? Different metal than aluminum but same principle, yes? If I'm not understanding this please explain.....bob v
I am no expert on magging a spool Bob. I think the spool has to be metal for this to work properly. I don't think just the washers on a plastic spool will create enough resistance.
You may notice a slight difference if you adspace the washers, however I highly doubt it as the magnetic filed is broken between each washer. Now the best bet is to get a aluminum spool. it's a great upgrade for any reel with a plastic spool
very nice.. does this affect your distance?
Quote from: tom5500 on February 09, 2015, 11:53:38 PM
very nice.. does this affect your distance?
What the point of maggin a reel is to help with more control over the spool. If magged correctly and adjusted to accomodate for line and lure weight, than it can help improve casting and "professional over runs". To much magnetic force and you will lose distance.
I have magged several reels including avets, daiwa sealines, shimanos and penns. Works well.
my suggestions, get stainless steel washers ... reg washers will rust soon. the magnets will
also rust, so I suggest coating them with epoxy. magnets come in variety of thickness and diameters,
so choose accordingly .... some of the reels don't have much space between the sideplates and spool.
Maybe this is an obvious question....can the magnetic field be felt on the outside of the plate? Will a piece of metal stick to the outside? Could be an easy way to tell if a reel has been magged while shopping at a flea market and the seller doesnt know what he's sellin....