or at least this is how we are starting out. unless we have a very solid offshore tuna bite, we will be hugging the coastline the entire time.. the idea is to get the maximum amount of fishing time in, even if we have to target those tasty calico bass. bring those spinners! the lighter the gear you use, the more likely you will be to catch something big!!!!!!
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Quote from: alantani on November 19, 2014, 10:27:42 PM...bring those spinners!...
Two Okuma Coronados rebuilt, carbontex-ed, and ready for action as of yesterday. ;D
Not letting Alan catch all the big fish on a spinner either. Penn Conflict 6000 on a 7' Tsunami Airwave Braid Elite 20-40 ;D ;D ;D
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NICE!
Before I finally admitted funding was not going to happen I did some trading and have a NIB Penn Battle 4000 that I had planned on using on the trip....it came with a new Fathom 25N twospeed and a new Penn Blue Water Carnage spinning rod.
Quote from: Keta on November 21, 2014, 12:15:45 AM
NICE!
Before I finally admitted funding was not going to happen I did some trading and have a NIB Penn Battle that I had planned on using on the trip....it came with a new Fathom 25N twospeed and a new Penn Blue Water Carnage spinning rod.
;D ;D ;D I really like that 2spd. 25N
If I can come up with funds I will get on the standby list but the bills from the broken hand, the extra $ I had to come up with to get the F-250 and a few other unexpected hits on my funds forced me to look reality in the eye. I wish this trip was closer to the $300 that elk camping cost me....anyone need a NIB Winchester Classic Safari Grade 375H&H?
Lee: I'm spending an extra dollar on the super lotto this week, so if I win your going!!!
Going to switch the Fin Nor LT100 from 50lb braid to 100lb braid and put it on a Daiwa STJ70XHFS Saltist Boat Jigging Spinning Rod that I just picked up on Amazon for $61.47. ;D
Them Mexican calico bass are in for a bad day... ::)
The calicos looked like fun but I was having trouble casting with the injured hand. As soon as I saw Alan's WSB come over the rail I changed gears and got my first one, a fish that has been on my list for years.
Quote from: Porthos on November 21, 2014, 12:36:19 AM
Them Mexican calico bass are in for a bad day... ::)
100# braid otta do it ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Keta on November 21, 2014, 01:03:49 AM
The calicos looked like fun but I was having trouble casting with the injured hand. As soon as I saw Alan's WSB come over the rail I changed gears and got my first one, a fish that has been on my list for years.
Channel Island Sport fishing is the place to go for WSB & Halibut ....That's where I got my #41 a few years ago..June-July
I've got a Stradic 4000 I've been thinking of bringing but I also want to get an 8000 size spinner for poppers and jigs.
I ordered a Penn Battle 6000 which looks to be the size of a Shimano 8000 sized reel. I'll probably put 300yds of 50# spectra on it. Now I just need a rod for it!
Go get them guys, I won't be around. Lee, I'm certain I'm not in the market, but would you mind PMing me what you want for that rifle?
Thanks
Ron
Quote from: noyb72 on November 21, 2014, 09:31:56 AM
...... Lee, I'm certain I'm not in the market, but would you mind PMing me what you want for that rifle?
Thanks
Ron
$1700.... ;D
I really do not know what it's worth but need to check.
Quote from: Keta on November 21, 2014, 02:56:34 PM
I really do not know what it's worth but need to check.
http://www.fieldandstream.com/pages/remington-model-798-safari-grade
"The price is $1,119 for a .375 H&H..." :)
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I believe the Winnie will be a bit more. The bolt is on the wrong side I am sure but it is one I've always wanted.
Ron
It's a Winchester M-70 not a Remington-796 Aiala but thank you.
Ron, I had a lefty M-70 SS Classic in 338Win when I closed but I sold it to a friend here.
OUCH!!!! I looked up the prices and they run from $900 for a well used one to $2500 for a NIB one, and not a pre 64!!! I paid less than $500 for it in the 90's.
Quote from: Keta on November 21, 2014, 07:47:19 PM...I looked up the prices and they run from $900 for a well used one to $2500 for a NIB one, and not a pre 64!!! I paid less than $500 for it in the 90's.
Looks like a method as been found to fund your trip...hope it pans out.
Ummmm ..... Should this be moved to / continued on the firearms board? :-\
Quote from: Norcal Pescador on November 23, 2014, 02:00:09 AM
Ummmm ..... Should this be moved to / continued on the firearms board? :-\
If moving to the firearms board gets this sold and Lee on the trip, then I agree ;D ;D ;Whatever it takes to hear Lee say "Gaff...Gaff"
we're good here. more visibility, and it's "fishing-related" enough for me! ;D
Quote from: alantani on November 23, 2014, 05:46:29 AM
we're good here. more visibility, and it's "fishing-related" enough for me! ;D
If you're good, then I'm good. 8)
Carry on, guys and gals! ;D
Not that I need another .375, but did you decide on a price? Is it a NIB, 1990, Winchester Safari Classic, with a leaf sight? Do you know what state it was manufactured in? Thanks Keta.
Quote from: alantani on November 19, 2014, 10:27:42 PM
bring those spinners! the lighter the gear you use, the more likely you will be to catch something big!!!!!!
Does that mean I should bring one of my micro-lites with 4lb test? ;D
No George, sounds like you should bring your M-70. :D :D
Quote from: George4741 on November 25, 2014, 02:50:44 AM
Quote from: alantani on November 19, 2014, 10:27:42 PM
bring those spinners! the lighter the gear you use, the more likely you will be to catch something big!!!!!!
Does that mean I should bring one of my micro-lites with 4lb test? ;D
Sure, we'll just call you "Deep Release".
Quote from: BMITCH on November 25, 2014, 09:44:34 AM
No George, sounds like you should bring your M-70. :D :D
This trip is getting more and more expensive! ;D
Besides the big-bore rifles and ultra-lite spinners ;) is a 2-speed reel desirable for this trip? Say, a Penn Fathom 25 or 30?
Yes, I used a 2 speed Avet MX but a 25N two speed would work well.
Quote from: George4741 on December 02, 2014, 06:01:46 PM
..... is a 2-speed reel desirable for this trip? Say, a Penn Fathom 25 or 30?
Unless you're a mono/conventional/classic purist like Aiala ;) , a 2-speed is highly desirable. I thought I could do without one until I tried Mel's Makaira 10II-SEa. I was so hooked I bought one the next week. :) :)
25N will work well...Maybe a narrow 40 fathom 2spd to cover most anything we will get? I only used low gear once this past June, but was glad I had it
Thank you all for the info and recommendations.
George
Quote from: Norcal Pescador on December 03, 2014, 12:17:48 AM
Unless you're a mono/conventional/classic purist like Aiala... ;)
Hey, I'm not
that much of a Luddite... I have a (pink) Avet JX 6/3! And before the SOA trip, I hope to send my vintage 12T International to Cal Sheets for 2-speeding. :)
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Quote from: Aiala on December 03, 2014, 09:55:37 PM...Hey, I'm not that much of a Luddite...
Since Tim is taking the part of "That guy" in 2015 (a previous post somewhere in this topic), I'm taking the role of Luddite for trip. Only Star drags and spinners for me...er...wait, do the spinners disqualify me?
No matter! I'll walks uphill, both ways, in the snow, in bare feet to get the SOA, and I'll likes it that way.
you're not going to get disqualified with a spinner, just make sure it has enough drag. a couple of years ago i watched a girl get spool fishing with a light spinner in maybe 10 seconds. we were fishing for calicos at cedros and she hooked into either a yellowtail or a white seabass.
Quote from: alantani on December 03, 2014, 11:34:16 PMyou're not going to get disqualified with a spinner, just make sure it has enough drag...
No problem Alan, the other Alan (Hawk, that is) said his Fin Nor LT100 handled 50+ lbs drag easily; I'm willing to go up to 30lbs on mine with assistance from a Braid Products RR100.
Quote from: alantani on December 03, 2014, 11:34:16 PM
you're not going to get disqualified with a spinner, just make sure it has enough drag. a couple of years ago i watched a girl get spool fishing with a light spinner in maybe 10 seconds. we were fishing for calicos at cedros and she hooked into either a yellowtail or a white seabass.
Exactly, thats what I like about Cedros, big mean fish hang with their smaller cousins, not to say a 8-10 lb Calico is small. The fish at Cedros are not line shy and fishing 40 lb gear for cali's may not be that much fun but when you do hook into a monster there you do not want to be under gunned. Someone said deep release.... well a shallow release is not uncommon there.
I'm not saying don't fish light gear but if you do get into one of those...oh $#!& moments and your under gunned well thats because of you. Take and use gear up for the task. Why, you may ask?..it is becuse I have been there and done that, deep, shallow and long distance release at that those lovely/nasty places where a possible fish of a life time is only the next cast away.
LUDDITE ??? that's kind of old skool way of thinking...Smashing/breaking and not embracing modern technology :-\
What the heck do I know I think this guy is cool ;D ;D ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2rolE9DlbA
Quote from: George4741 on December 03, 2014, 02:02:30 AM
Thank you all for the info and recommendations.
George
George: If Alan remembers his reel bag you will have a chance to fish with allot of really cool gear without the expense & my guess is there will be plenty of gear to try, so don't spend a ton ;D ;D ;D But if you are like me and want to use your gear only... ;D...could get pricey ;D ;D ;D
I have a nasty fly rod set up, 14wt 1500 grain line should be able to get deep enough. If I am on this trip I will bring it, along with a few other paychecks i mean rods and reels.
Quote from: Big Tim on December 04, 2014, 01:32:11 AM
LUDDITE ??? that's kind of old skool way of thinking...Smashing/breaking and not embracing modern technology :-\
What the heck do I know I think this guy is cool ;D ;D ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2rolE9DlbA
Smashing bit of video Big Tim.
The man is one of my all time heros.
Quote from: alantani on November 19, 2014, 10:27:42 PM
bring those spinners! the lighter the gear you use, the more likely you will be to catch something big!!!!!!
Sorry, but I gotta bring this subject up again. What weight line are we talking about? That way those inexperienced anglers (for example, me ::)) will have a better idea of how big/small of a spinner to bring.
25, 30 or 40# test will work!
Being a classic (oldie) sort of gal, I plan to bring my Penn 750SS, a Mitchell 402 I am currently restoring, and possibly a Penn 704 greenie, if I can find one that isn't too far gone to fix.
It'll be Spin City... woohoo! :D
~A~
if the mitchell has a plastic spool, i'd probably take a pass on that one. otherwise it should be fine. you also mentioned a penn internation 12. if you have not hotrodded that reel yet, hold off. it might be a little large for what we will be doing.
Quote from: alantani on January 05, 2015, 06:59:28 PM
25, 30 or 40# test will work!
Thank you Alan. I was wondering if we should go lighter, such as 15# or 20#. My Penn 7500ss will be fine.
Quote from: Aiala on January 05, 2015, 07:10:15 PM
Being a classic (oldie) sort of gal, I plan to bring my Penn 750SS, a Mitchell 402 I am currently restoring, and possibly a Penn 704 greenie, if I can find one that isn't too far gone to fix.
It'll be Spin City... woohoo! :D
~A~
Aiala, do you know how my Mitchell 306A compares to your 402? The spool says it holds 200 yds of 22# mono.
George, I've never owned a 306A, but back in the Pleistocene I first learned to surf cast with a 306. It was a superb reel, landed many a bluefish, and even went with me to college. ;D BTW, I'll be bringing my 406!
In any case, assuming that your 'A' is essentially the same model, I see no reason why it wouldn't perform admirably on the SOA trip. It's a slightly smaller reel than a 302/402, but still plenty tough. Just make sure it's serviced, lubed, new greased drags, etc. Parts are readily available on eBay, if you need them, and you can find schematics here: http://mitchellreelmuseum.com/index.php/category/356
Counting the days! ;)
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You can all just use Alan's rigs for 25-30-40 if he doesn't leave the reels in the garage again! I have enough extra rods/reels to equip a couple of people to a good standard myself. If you need something to fill a hole iin your lineup you can get a loaner easy enough from someone on the trip... however, if you need a spinner I can't help you. Well, if you need a coffee grinder I can bring one but you'll have to plug it in.
Quote from: MarkT on January 05, 2015, 09:31:11 PM
Well, if you need a coffee grinder I can bring one but you'll have to plug it in.
Ha! (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Laughing/lol-049.gif)
Thing is, I
like spinners! Possibly the best fight I ever had was landing a 50lb YFT on a 750SS. Took me an hour and several circuits around the boat, but what a blast! My dream fish this trip would be a big ol' WSB like the Boss caught last summer... on a spinner, of course! :D
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You'd be in luck. A 50# WSB would be a lot easier than a 50# YFT.
Aiala, thank you for link to the mitchell museum site. The 306A is basically the same as a 306.
Aiala,
Now I see, the Mitchell 302 has a much more capable multi-drag, similar to the Penn Spinfisher series. The Mitchell 306 has a simple drag and is basically an oversize 300.
Alan,
Is braid allowed on this trip? If so, I would consider bringing a Penn 710/712 for my light spinning gear.
George
Braid is absolutely allowed! Don't leave home without it... or your reels.
Quote from: George4741 on January 12, 2015, 04:41:25 PM
Is braid allowed on this trip? If so, I would consider bringing a Penn 710/712 for my light spinning gear.
It was last year and the crew encouraged super short mono/fluro topshots. I fished 10'-20' 25# and 30# fluorocarbon topshots most of the time.
Quote from: MarkT on January 12, 2015, 04:58:53 PM
Braid is absolutely allowed! Don't leave home without it... or your reels.
;D ;D ;D ;D Hopefully Alan will remember the reels this year, but if we don't get 8 more on the list it won't matter. I am looking forward to using my spinner on a bigger fish than a 16# ling cod
Quote from: Big Tim on January 13, 2015, 12:01:02 AM
I am looking forward to using my spinner...
Big Tim, me too! (Although not spooled with braid...horrors!) :P
Hmm, maybe we could have a spinners-only side jackpot...? Put me in, Coach! 8)
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plenty of time!
Aiala, on New Years eve I used my spinner for bottom fishing almost exclusively due to high winds and it was the only way to cast out far enough away from the boat to get to the bottom...Tons of fun...Penn Conflict 6000 spooled with 300yrd. 65# braid...I'm all in for the Spinner side jackpot
B.T.
Quote from: alantani on January 13, 2015, 12:20:09 AM
plenty of time!
I know...Heck I haven't found the second 1/2 of my payment yet and I'm doin' the talking ;D
Quote from: Aiala on January 13, 2015, 12:14:35 AM
Big Tim, me too! (Although not spooled with braid...horrors!) :P
Hmm, maybe we could have a spinners-only side jackpot...? Put me in, Coach! 8)
~A~
All right...what's the ante?
Quote from: Porthos on January 13, 2015, 02:45:09 PMAll right...what's the ante?
Guess it'd depend on how many wanted in... nothing exorbitant... 10 bucks? 15? 20? :)
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side pots are ok, but you'll have to weigh and keep track on your own. remember, it's a "no tag" trip. at cedros, the fish will be tossed into the slammer without a tag. if you catch something unique, go ahead and throw a number on it.
Just a thought Alan, you still may want to give numbers to everyone so if people want to weight their personal best fish after the trip they can. You never know when someone may catch the biggest fish of their lifetime even though it is not the largest on the boat they still may want to weight it after the trip on the digital scales at the landing. Or if you catch a monster calico you may want to know its weight even if larger fish like yellowtail, WSB or if lucky you guys run into some early BFT. Of course divide the fish like you stated but some may want to know the weight of their largest fish.
Everyone has their number just like on a 'regular' trip. You still need to mark off your beers!
Mark did you miss this part in the bold lettering?
Quote from: alantani on January 13, 2015, 11:22:25 PM
side pots are ok, but you'll have to weigh and keep track on your own. remember, it's a "no tag" trip. at cedros, the fish will be tossed into the slammer without a tag. if you catch something unique, go ahead and throw a number on it.
Yeah, I was on last years trip. You'll know your number and the tags are available. I never used one last year but some did.
yes, tags were available in case someone wanted to tag a fish. gary was funny. he came up to me, apologetically, and asked if he could take his first ever yellowtail. hey, no problem. 2 hours later he told me that he had landed 5 more and sheepishly said, "guess i really didn't need to tag that first fish, huh.....". ;D
Well, my Battle 6000 showed up today. I'll have my son spool up both it and my new fth25n2 up tomorrow with spectra. I'm figuring 50# on the Battle and 65# on the Fathom. My son is not impressed with the spinner and says I'd be better off with my Lexa 400. Both will be on the trip so we'll see! Now I need a rod for the Battle. I told the kid to check out their inventory at the tackle store he works at in Dana Point and let me know what my options are... I don't really want to go too expensive but it has to be a solid 30# rod that will work for 40# too.
Quote from: MarkT on January 17, 2015, 03:28:08 AM...Now I need a rod for the Battle. I told the kid to check out their inventory at the tackle store he works at in Dana Point and let me know what my options are... I don't really want to go too expensive but it has to be a solid 30# rod that will work for 40# too.
Hey Mark,
If you were to stick with Penn then there's the CARBW3050S70 (http://www.meltontackle.com/products/penn-bluewater-carnage-spinning-rods.html); $126 at Melton.
If you were open to mix-&-match, Daiwa has the STW70MHFS (http://www.meltontackle.com/products/daiwa-saltist-boat-spinning-rods.html); $85 also at Melton. I bought this one from Melton and had this rod with my Fin Nor LT100 on the 2014 charter--three YT landed. Will be bringing this setup in June.
There's also the Daiwa STJ66MHFS or STJ60HFS (http://www.meltontackle.com/products/daiwa-saltist-boat-jigging-spinning-rods.html); $90-$120. I don't have one of these but I DO have the STJ70XHFS that I got off of Amazon for my second LT100. Will be bringing this one in June as well as the 100lb spin setup...yeah, that's right...100lbs ::) ...going with a "glass half-full" attitude on this one. :P
Quote from: Porthos on January 17, 2015, 07:52:27 PMIf you were to stick with Penn then there's the (http://www.meltontackle.com/products/penn-bluewater-carnage-spinning-rods.html)
I picked up a CARBW3050S70 last fall and I'm impressed with the rod.
Wai, I picked up a Shimano Teramar TMS-80XXH, 8', rated 20-40 and 2-5 oz lures for the Battle 6000. Should be good for poppers and stick baits. It was $87.91 out the door. It's good to have a son working at a tackle store!
The guy working with my son said the Fathom 25NLD2 took 350 yds of 65# spectra, he hadn't loaded the Battle with 50# yet. I'll see what they did when my son gets home.
Quote from: MarkT on January 17, 2015, 10:40:43 PM...he hadn't loaded the Battle with 50# yet. I'll see what they did when my son gets home...
Should be at least 300+ yds...
Yeah, it's rated at 310 yds of 50# so I expect at least 300yds. They had the Battle II in stock in all sizes so it's no wonder I got a good price on the Battle. I should've checked what I could get the II for before getting the original. OTOH, it's more than up to 40# so it doesn't really matter. Al, who works with my son, has a couple of Battles and said he had no issues with landing 30# YFT which is all I'm expecting to handle. He uses this Teramar on his boat and recommended it so that was good enough for me.
The Fathom 25NLD2 took 350 yds of 65# spectra and the Battle 6000 took 300 yds of 50#. I may bring my YTS with 40# mono too, only trouble is I'd have to leave a 2-speed behind.
I tied a 40# mono leader on the Battle with an Improved Albright, attached it to the Teramar, tightened up the drag, and gave a pull. Feels very nice! Those YT, and anything else out there, better be wary. I'll try it with stick baits, poppers, Megabaits and maybe some surface iron. I'm officially a member of the coffee grinder brigade!
Looking at what this trip is supposed to be I think your fine without a 2 speed. I wish I was going, more than I can tell you all.
If I was going I'd bring: my bait rig, which is a built 180 on an old Ocean City 15# rod, a 112HN with 5:1 gears set up as a 30# general purpose, a regular 112H set up as a bait rig and my Newelled YTS with all the goodies loaded with 80# braid and 40-80# top shots. I'd probably use the boats gear for "trolling prison" as I just don't have enough oportunities to justify a purchase of a big reel.
For an inshore trip, I am of the opinion that you can't do any better.
Ron
Quote from: noyb72 on January 19, 2015, 09:12:31 PM
If I was going I'd bring: my bait rig, which is a built 180 on an old Ocean City 15# rod, a 112HN with 5:1 gears set up as a 30# general purpose, a regular 112H set up as a bait rig and my Newelled YTS with all the goodies loaded with 80# braid and 40-80# top shots. I'd probably use the boats gear for "trolling prison" as I just don't have enough oportunities to justify a purchase of a big reel.
Thank you for the info, Ron. I like your minimalist recommendations.
Quote from: noyb72 on January 19, 2015, 09:12:31 PM
I like your minimalist recommendations.
Being a true Southerner, I'm not bringing ANY fishing gear. I'll show you guys (and gal) how to "noodle" for calico bass ;D
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Being a true Southerner, I'm not bringing ANY fishing gear. I'll show you guys (and gal) how to "noodle" for calico bass ;D
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Bring a big knife for the sharks and you should be able to noodle away ;D
Is there WiFi on the SOA?
Just wondering.
only a sat phone for emergency calls. call the office first. http://www.spiritofadventurefishing.com/news/contact
Quote from: sundaytrucka on March 17, 2015, 09:00:49 PM
Is there WiFi on the SOA?
Nope, and I'm actually a bit surprised that there isn't, since most of the other premier boats now offer it. On the other hand, from what I've experienced, the signal reception is usually pretty iffy and slow, so you're not missing out on much. Besides, part of the mystique of a sea voyage is being cut off from landlubberly concerns. I find it quite liberating. ;)
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Quote from: Aiala on March 17, 2015, 10:55:17 PM
Quote from: sundaytrucka on March 17, 2015, 09:00:49 PM
Is there WiFi on the SOA?
Besides, part of the mystique of a sea voyage is being cut off from landlubberly concerns. I find it quite liberating. ;)
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Completely agree,. Not an intense phone or Internet person, I spend most of my time on here anyway, and will be living the site for five days. This will be the longest time I have been away from the family, literally have not been more than 48 hours without seeing them, and she is 14 months now. Five days of no contact, it will be a bit of an adjustment.
Quote from: sundaytrucka on March 18, 2015, 01:51:29 AM
Five days of no contact, it will be a bit of an adjustment.
You'll do fine, and so will your family. Five days will go by very quickly... and I'll bet that before long you'll start thinking about longer voyages. Eight days... ten... fourteen! (Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.) ;D
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Quote from: Aiala on March 18, 2015, 03:12:33 AM
Quote from: sundaytrucka on March 18, 2015, 01:51:29 AM
Five days of no contact, it will be a bit of an adjustment.
You'll do fine, and so will your family. Five days will go by very quickly... and I'll bet that before long you'll start thinking about longer voyages. Eight days... ten... fourteen! (Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.) ;D
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Aiala... ;D ;D ;D That is funny. Dominick
Quote from: Dominick on March 18, 2015, 04:35:13 AM
Quote from: Aiala on March 18, 2015, 03:12:33 AM
Quote from: sundaytrucka on March 18, 2015, 01:51:29 AM
Five days of no contact, it will be a bit of an adjustment.
You'll do fine, and so will your family. Five days will go by very quickly... and I'll bet that before long you'll start thinking about longer voyages. Eight days... ten... fourteen! (Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.) ;D
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Aiala... ;D ;D ;D That is funny. Dominick
X2 Dominick.
Thank you for the words Aiala, you are right, just a new experience for me, the trip and life that is.
-Scott
FWIW, my dog will miss me a lot more than the wife will. And probably the reverse is true. Must mean the honeymoon is over!
What should be my next step in prepping for this Big Adventure? I've never fished for calico bass or WSB before. Is there a UTube section on the type of fishing we'll be doing? Underhand casting, overhead casting, jigging, trolling, etc.? With this many people, the east coast and GoM charters/head boats mostly vertical drop. But most of their patrons don't have anywhere close to the experience level of this group. I plan on spending most of May on the GOM, and I might as well use the time to hone a particular skill so I won't embarrass myself too much in June.
Mike
Quote from: Wally15 on March 19, 2015, 09:09:36 AM
FWIW, my dog will miss me a lot more than the wife will. And probably the reverse is true.
You'll miss the dog more than your wife?? Oh, my. ::)
Actually, you're not alone. I have a funny story about that... remind me to tell you in June. ;)
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yeah, well, try locking both in the garage for 3 hours and see who's happy to see you when you open the door..... ;D
Yup! Cats are somewhere between the two.
Quote from: Wally15 on March 19, 2015, 09:09:36 AM
What should be my next step in prepping for this Big Adventure? I've never fished for calico bass or WSB before.
Underhand casting, overhead casting, jigging, trolling, etc.?
There a lot of ways to get the job done, but no correct answer. Some gear/info I came across for fishing Cedros.
http://cedrosoutdooradventures.com/fishing-gear-2/
Casting: Sometimes you do not need to cast, just a gentle lob out and let the bait take over. I cast underhand when fishing small/weak baits, anchovies and small sardines, and do over head casts for stronger, more robust baits, sardines and mackerel.
Dropper loop and yo-yo jigging, just straight to the bottom.
The deck hands are there to help, they spend more time on the water than us, and they are an underutilized resource, ask them for help and they will be more than happy to help.
No expert here. -Scott
Quote from: alantani on March 19, 2015, 04:08:47 PM
Yeah, well, try locking both in the garage for 3 hours and see who's happy to see you when you open the door..... ;D
Boss, surely you did NOT try this experiment with Mrs. T?? :o
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Quote from: Wally15 on March 19, 2015, 09:09:36 AM
FWIW, my dog will miss me a lot more than the wife will. And probably the reverse is true. Must mean the honeymoon is over!
What should be my next step in prepping for this Big Adventure? I've never fished for calico bass or WSB before. Is there a UTube section on the type of fishing we'll be doing? Underhand casting, overhead casting, jigging, trolling, etc.? With this many people, the east coast and GoM charters/head boats mostly vertical drop. But most of their patrons don't have anywhere close to the experience level of this group. I plan on spending most of May on the GOM, and I might as well use the time to hone a particular skill so I won't embarrass myself too much in June.
Mike
Last year I actually got home a day early and the wife said "what are doing here a day early" ;D ;D ;D The DOG ran and jumped with a double fist pump to the nether regions then ran down the hall to my wife. :o My son just laughed and fell off the couch...Honeymoon is definitely over.
Big Tim
Quote from: Aiala on March 19, 2015, 09:38:31 PM
Quote from: alantani on March 19, 2015, 04:08:47 PM
Yeah, well, try locking both in the garage for 3 hours and see who's happy to see you when you open the door..... ;D
Boss, surely you did NOT try this experiment with Mrs. T?? :o
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naw, we don't have a dog......
What size hooks were most used on last year's trip?
I know this trip is different, starting off as an inshore trip, and you never know what the bait situation may look like, but just want to know what was working last year.
Thanks.
#1 for anchovies, 2/0 for sardines and 4/0 for mackeral.
If it turns out that the water conditions between SD and Cedros (perhaps even in just U.S. waters) end up holding pelagics in quality and quantity this mid-June, will a vote be held to switch to an OFFSHORE trip?
Quote from: Porthos on April 23, 2015, 11:01:15 PM
If it turns out that the water conditions between SD and Cedros (perhaps even in just U.S. waters) end up holding pelagics in quality and quantity this mid-June, will a vote be held to switch to an OFFSHORE trip?
Gosh, I hope not. Those blankety-blank pelagics have a really irritating habit of disappearing and/or developing lockjaw the minute you get near them. >:(
Besides, I like the bottom. Er, I mean, I like
fishing the bottom... geesh. (http://www.naker.us/WordPress/images/BlushingSmiley.jpg)
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Quote from: Aiala on April 23, 2015, 11:26:43 PM...Besides, I like the bottom. Er, I mean, I like fishing the bottom... geesh. (http://www.naker.us/WordPress/images/BlushingSmiley.jpg)
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You must have liked that one scene in "Big" before Elizabeth Perkins' character realized that Tom Hank's character was talking about bunk beds.
Quote from: Porthos on April 23, 2015, 11:36:34 PM
You must have liked that one scene in "Big" before Elizabeth Perkins' character realized that Tom Hank's character was talking about bunk beds.
Yup... that was a
great flick! :D
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I'm hearing the bait situation may be that sardines will be in very limited supply? If so, will we be needing to make bait? If so, which sabiki rigs are recommended?
i think it's a #4, but it's been a while. i'm looking at a bunch right now and they say no. 4, but they are an off brand.
Although I'm not going with you all. I can comment on this question as I caught bait on the back of the boat while everyone else was sleeping. The jigs we used were equipped with #6 and #8 hooks. The 8s got more on the line at once but the 6s would hold a full string of mackerel.
Ron
All I brought were the 3 and 4 bait large ones that usually work better, they didn't. Bring at least 2 each of several sizes starting with #6 hooks.
Got it, thanks!
Lee is right with bringing more than one of each size. After a while I'm guessing the hooks began to dull and switching to a new rig brought the number of hook ups back up.
Ron
Counting down the days....
Quote from: stoked4fishin on May 11, 2015, 04:52:37 AM
I'm hearing the bait situation may be that sardines will be in very limited supply? If so, will we be needing to make bait? If so, which sabiki rigs are recommended?
I fished my boat on Tuesday and we bought bait at E. bros. (the same place that supplies the SOA and the other San Diego boats) and it was lots of good sized sardines and even a few macks. Given that the Long range boats get the best bait, I doubt we (looking to see if I can finagle my way on this trip) will have a problem with 'chovies. Of course the problem could be we don't have any chovies and the fish don't want the big dines.
tom, got your pm. i will call mike today and see what his son says about the trip.
So who needs loaner gear? Alan, are you bringing enough?
I'm ALMOST done with my primary conventional line up of Daiwa Sealines.
Probably in week or so, I can prep some of my reserve gear as loaners...
i promise to bring all of the rods AND reels! ;D
Quote from: alantani on May 23, 2015, 09:33:31 PM
i promise to bring all of the rods AND reels! ;D
When are you starting the drive down? I'll text you a reminder 30 mins before... :D
i'm loading the night before. anytime is fine!!! ;D
I too can supply loaners. I just got my list of rods and reels done today. Somehow a bunch of the old school stuff is going to be left behind. I have too many nice new reels. If the yft show up in range might need the jigmasters for 30lb bait set ups.