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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn => Topic started by: Crab Pot on August 06, 2023, 02:18:35 AM

Title: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: Crab Pot on August 06, 2023, 02:18:35 AM
Started life as a 700, I think.

Kind'a cool though.

Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: Reeltyme on August 06, 2023, 10:07:53 AM
A very neat piece! The title is perfect.
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Post by: sandbar on August 06, 2023, 01:03:45 PM
Very Cool!
I wonder what the new weight of the reel is.
Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: ExcessiveAngler on August 06, 2023, 02:16:59 PM
Look out Vanstaal, there's a new, very dapper looking, sheriff in town lol!
Man, that thing is so suh - weeet lol!
Would you, just happen to be, that machinist?
I have an older custom Pennstaal, but nowhere near on the level of that one, not even close
But after seeing that beauty, it may be time to give her a new makeover!
I want to do one in red, white and blue, or would have to be blue, green and yellow!
Although the all white is looking quite nice as well, I'm guessing that's a shelf queen?
Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: Crab Pot on August 06, 2023, 04:15:44 PM
EA, That's not mine but it is for sale on Ebay right now along with another one the guy did.

Not bad prices either but the auctions aren't over yet.
Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: nelz on August 06, 2023, 04:19:41 PM
Wow, the work on back-side of the rotor is something I hadn't seen before, very impressive. :al
That's a real beauty!  :d
Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: nelz on August 06, 2023, 04:21:26 PM
Quote from: Crab Pot on August 06, 2023, 04:15:44 PMEA, That's not mine but it is for sale on Ebay right now along with another one the guy did.

OIC
Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: Catching Nemo on August 06, 2023, 09:54:09 PM
This seller usually has a bunch of these types of reels up for auction. I've seen the zebco cardinals, Olympic, Shakespeare 2062, and DAM reels in the past.
Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: pointbob on August 07, 2023, 02:25:30 AM
i'm an abu guy who knows only baitcaster...whats going on here? whats a 700?
Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: MarkT on August 07, 2023, 08:29:15 AM
I dunno, the rotor, fine, the spool looks cut out way to much. Looks intended as a show piece and not a fishing implement. That off white color? What is it going for?
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Post by: jgp12000 on August 07, 2023, 11:39:09 AM
That is great machine work,I tell you what!
Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: Midway Tommy on August 07, 2023, 04:10:45 PM
Personally, I think they're pretty gross looking. 😝
Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: philaroman on August 07, 2023, 07:50:44 PM
Quote from: MarkT on August 07, 2023, 08:29:15 AMI dunno, the rotor, fine, the spool looks cut out way to much. Looks intended as a show piece and not a fishing implement. That off white color? What is it going for?

ditto...  spool lip looks structurally weakened -- impact would "break through" rather than dent
looked cool, at first, but what is it for, functionally  ???
maybe frequent casting from a soft grassy bank, nowhere near rocks, or rails, or sand  ::)


Quote from: Midway Tommy on August 07, 2023, 04:10:45 PMPersonally, I think they're pretty gross looking. 😝

not as bad as the bedazzled 300's
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Post by: JasonGotaProblem on August 07, 2023, 08:12:39 PM
I mean it looks cool. But to me it's just a cosmetic mod. Reminds me of when the first fast & furious movie came out (i was a teen at the time) and people did all kinds of crazy appearance mods to cars that were still dead slow. Thankfully I never went down that rabbit hole. But they looked cool i guess.
Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: ExcessiveAngler on August 07, 2023, 08:26:31 PM
Kind of makes you wonder, if the spool design
would help or kill it lol?
I think it's pretty darn sharp looking!
Well, I thought,  I saw that reel? but seems there's another one with a different colored spool?
Looks like maybe somebody bought it?
Is the Abu guy above? Just kidding around?
Not too many people haven't seen a vintage Penn 700's spinning reel!
But there's been quite a bit of conventional reels I didn't know about either, so I guess anything is possible lol!
Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: Crab Pot on August 07, 2023, 10:48:26 PM
So I watched a you on YouTube do the same thing to a DAM Quick, 270 or 550, I can't remember.

He wadded belly button high in the surf and said the cut outs assured rapid exiting of corrosive saltwater.

Plus it took off a lot of weight.

I wouldn't do one.
Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: Midway Tommy on August 08, 2023, 03:27:11 AM
Quote from: ExcessiveAngler on August 07, 2023, 08:26:31 PMIs the Abu guy above? Just kidding around?

If by chance you're referring to me, I'm serious as a heart attack. I've hated the looks of those customized Penn rotor cups ever since seeing my first one, and this one, IMO, is extremely ugly. All those notches & grooves just weaken the rotor.  :(
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Post by: ExcessiveAngler on August 08, 2023, 03:34:24 AM
Quote from: Midway Tommy on August 08, 2023, 03:27:11 AM
Quote from: ExcessiveAngler on August 07, 2023, 08:26:31 PMIs the Abu guy above? Just kidding around?

If by chance you're referring to me, I'm serious as a heart attack. I've hated the looks of those customized Penn rotor cups ever since seeing my first one, and this one, IMO, is extremely ugly. All those notches & grooves just weaken the rotor.  :(
No sir! I was talking about the member pointbob! Said he was an Abu guy, and only knew about baitcaster!
Hard to tell sometimes, when you guys are being serious or not lol
Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: Midway Tommy on August 08, 2023, 05:44:56 PM
Quote from: ExcessiveAngler on August 08, 2023, 03:34:24 AMHard to tell sometimes, when you guys are being serious or not lol

That's the problem with e-mail & texting......no personal contact to decipher intent.  ;)
Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: nelz on August 08, 2023, 09:50:48 PM
I guess the spool would hold up well for braid, but mono would probably crack it. All those cut-outs would make rinsing out the braid more effective too.

I also wonder how the back of the rotor was done. I mean the rays or "spokes" I guess you'd call them, go in pretty deep, how the heck did he do that? It's like they were welded on?
Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: foakes on August 08, 2023, 10:24:27 PM
Couple of things to remember on this reel, and others that I think he has modified —-

I don't think the parts that were cut away would weaken the reel in any way.  As a matter of fact, some parts seem to have been beefed up after the cut-outs.

Plus, there is no truly waterproof reel —- some come close, but not completely. So if the salt water is easy to rinse out with fresh water —- that is a good thing.

And if he has done this much outside the reel —- what has he done inside?

All kidding aside, like this reel or not —- this guy has some serious skills.

I have a lot of respect for guys who can do this type of work.

Not everyone needs to color within the lines.

Best, Fred
Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: ExcessiveAngler on August 08, 2023, 10:44:13 PM
Quote from: foakes on August 08, 2023, 10:24:27 PMCouple of things to remember on this reel, and others that I think he has modified —-

I don't think the parts that were cut away would weaken the reel in any way.  As a matter of fact, some parts seem to have been beefed up after the cut-outs.

Plus, there is no truly waterproof reel —- some come close, but not completely. So if the salt water is easy to rinse out with fresh water —- that is a good thing.

And if he has done this much outside the reel —- what has he done inside?

All kidding aside, like this reel or not —- this guy has some serious skills.

I have a lot of respect for guys who can do this type of work.

Not everyone needs to color within the lines.

Best, Fred
Agreed!  I just looked at some other sold listings from the same seller!
Seems he has no problem selling these at all!
I would have to say that is a pretty killer deal for less than $200!
The internals look, to be all brass, I would imagine that's probably stock, but do look nice and shiny! I assume they have been polished up!
Took a couple screenshots, but not sure, if there is copywriting involved lol!
Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: jurelometer on August 09, 2023, 02:31:44 AM
Quote from: Crab Pot on August 07, 2023, 10:48:26 PMSo I watched a you on YouTube do the same thing to a DAM Quick, 270 or 550, I can't remember.

He wadded belly button high in the surf and said the cut outs assured rapid exiting of corrosive saltwater.

Plus it took off a lot of weight.

I wouldn't do one.

Agree.

The water goes in and out right around the spool gap.  Everything will be getting wet until you stop wading.  Cutouts our no cutouts.  I guess he could make a claim that it is easier for the reel to dry out when you are done fishing, but we we are talking about minutes, so.... Meh.

On this reel, those big spool cutouts allow the line to bulge into the gaps if the line is loaded under higher tension.  This is especially bad for braid, which has high tensile strength along the fiber but does not like tight bends.  Heavily ported saltwater fly reels have this problem. 

I'm with both Fred and Jason.  More power to the guys who experiment with customizations, but if you are going for a "Fast and Furious" reel, it is less complicated to make design changes to achieve a look than it is to improve performance.  Either is valid I guess.  I just have less patience if they do one but claim the other.

-J
Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: nelz on August 09, 2023, 02:22:26 PM
Yeah, the back of the spool cut-outs are excessive.
Title: Re: When Machinist Get Bored...
Post by: Brewcrafter on August 10, 2023, 04:12:20 AM
The level of workmanship and detail on the skeletonization of the reel is impressive; kudos to the builder for doing it.  Yes looks cool.  Not entirely sure I would ever go there, but I can appreciate precision as much as the next guy. - john