Hi every one, I need the schematics for a Penn Marster Mariner 349 reel if anyone can help, I have vissited Mikes reel repairs could not find it there, cheers Don
Go to Scott's Bait&Tackle for Penn parts, schematics, & specs...
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Conventional.aspx#Mariner (https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Conventional.aspx#Mariner)
Schematic for the 349 attached
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G'day Don, The schematic John posted is the only one we have to work with (that I've seen anyway) but if your trying to work out which 349 you have it wont help much and the number on the side plate won't help either - the 349, 349H and 349HC all have '349' on the plate.
The 349 HC has 2 levers, the normal engage / disengage clutch lever plus a lever that disengages the anti reverse dog that lets you feed out line while still in gear. It uses the same gears as a 349H.
The 349 and 349H both look the same with one lever. As far as I know the only way to tell them apart is the gears (or gear ratio if the reel is assembled) The 349HC and 349H are 3.25:1 ratio with a larger main gear and smaller pinion gear with a ring to support it. The 349 is 2.3:1 and the larger pinion doesn't have a ring. There is a photo of the two gear sets on this post http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=21340.15 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=21340.15) (I tried posting the photo here but photobucket has stopped working for me at the moment).
I learnt a lot from this thread George4741 started some time ago http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=2526.15 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=2526.15)
Send me a PM if you still need parts, I've got some spares I could donate - I don't have a new stand like Fred offered but I've got one that will work plus a few drag washers and other bits and pieces.
Mike
thanks John & Mike for your quick replies, very good John, I will get thems schematics, and Mike I will Take you up on the parts you wish to donate, Please send me a email to pat.don12302bigpond.com as my email address in my profile is incorrect for some reason or another, thanks I will check your profile if your email is with it I will contact you thanks again. i also sent Fred Oakes an email about the foot, he has not replied yet, cheers Don.
On Penn Parts schematic it says they used a 149 but with the exception of the AR dog it looks 349 to me.
Sorry, Don --
I read your email -- and you said you also possibly needed some DAM Quick 550 parts -- and you would determine which parts and get back to me with a list.
That is all I was waiting for -- the stand is yours when you want it.
Best,
Fred
Thanks for your reply Fred, considering Mike has a stand & a few other parts that he will send free of charge, I will except his offer, although I will compinsate Mike one way or the other, when I stript the reel down, I did notice that some of the parts did have a H on them, the reel I have restored and reconstructed, I turnt it over & it apears to turn 3 plus times to one, so maybe 3.25 to 1, so all I have to do with it is screw on a stand & when mike sends the drag washers over, I will cut some carbon fibre washers for it, i can open the drag from the outside, thanks every one for all your help, what a great groupe of people on this forum, just so helpful & kind, cheers Don. ps Mike I have sent you a message.
Excellent!
Thanks for your knowledge and generousity, Mike...
Best,
Fred
Smooth drag has a drag kit for the 349h.
Mike
Mike thanks for the smoothdrag message, the freight from over seas is High also the exchange rate is a killer, smooth drag would do a better job than I, but I dont do to bad a job on them, and as I have retired I have the time to do it, thanks again everone for your replies, great stuff, cheers Don
Quote from: foakes on May 15, 2017, 01:32:05 AM
Excellent!
Thanks for your knowledge and generousity, Mike...
Best,
Fred
It's all good Fred, I'm just passing on what I learnt here - particularly from Lee (Keta) when it comes to the mariner family of reels.
Mike
I still have a pile of 349 and possably 1 349H set of 5 metal drag washers still.
Here are some photos of Don's 349 Master Mariner -- before and after...
Best,
Fred
yes thanks for posting the photos for me Fred, just for other veiwers, I soaked the larger parts in vinegar 55%/ water 45% for 2 hours, and washed the smaller parts with CLR, while waiting for the vinegar to do its job, I then rinced in water, dried every thing, with a heat gun not to hot cleaned the bakelite with some brasso, then polished it with mothers wacks, but Alan said on one of the other posts, just use yamaha marine grease, as I screwed it together & got some grease on the bake lite, I could see the affect of the grease, the finnish is not perfect, but it was in bad shape before I started, however I will except any negetive comments, all a part of learning, all the parts were in real good condition, apart from to much thick grease restricting movement, and I love the handle now that I have it turning easy, made from plastic, great grip, now come on negetive comments please, every one, i have thick skin, cheers Don
Hi Don, good work cleaning up that old workhorse, you've saved it's life in the nick of time by the look of the before photos. That handle grip is pretty interesting - I'll take your word it is comfortable! :D
I'll let you know when I get the parts away - hopefully tomorrow. By the way, you might not be able to remove all the drag washers from the outside of that reel - the keyed washers and drag material washers will fit through the opening but I don't think the ears on the eared metal washers will fit through.
Mike
thanks Keta and Mike, i was surprized how good most of the parts were in this reel, I dont mind opening it to place any drag washer in it, the drag dog was it good order, did not have to touch the teeth on it, Lee I will wait and see what mike sends me, and if the parts fit, but thanks for the replies you have place on this post, good stuff mate, good Mike, thanks for all your trouble, will send you another email soon, cheers Don.
The six 37-49 cross bars can be replaced with three 37A-500S bars to stiffen up the frame. If you nees a gear sleeve a 98-320 is not the same as the origonal 98-349 but they work,the 349's I fish all have Alan's SS 98-320AT gearsleeves, the other Alan (Pro Gear) also has high quality SS gear sleeves, 98-320PRO at MysticParts.
The first thing I do when making a reel for fishing is replace the 3 washer drag stack with a 5 washer set and replace the gear sleeve, then the cross bars. If I get lucky I replace the heavy bronze spool with an aluminum one, they are realy made out of unobtanium and are not cheep if you can find one.
This halibut season, Pacific halibut, I will be fishing with a lefthand hotrodded 349H and a left hand 113H with Tib Narrow kit and Cortez sideplates. If we end up fishing 700' and deeper I will break out my narowed 114H.
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Lee,
Let us not forget "the Other Alan (ProGear)" also sells cross bars!!!!
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12127.0
https://www.mkt.com/store/pro-challenger-llc/item/stainless-steel-cross-bar-for-penn-jigmaster
I know, they look GREAT on my 349H!
(http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii518/wdeutscher/Penn%20349H/IMG_3854_zpsldnna22f.jpg) (http://s1257.photobucket.com/user/wdeutscher/media/Penn%20349H/IMG_3854_zpsldnna22f.jpg.html)
(http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii518/wdeutscher/Penn%20349H/IMG_3855_zpsazkesexa.jpg) (http://s1257.photobucket.com/user/wdeutscher/media/Penn%20349H/IMG_3855_zpsazkesexa.jpg.html)
Wayne
Thanks Lee & Wayne, I think it has SS gearing in it now, if I take it apart to redo the drag I will count the teeth, but they are in real good condition, the cross bars are firm, all the thread in them is good & firm, thanks cheers Don.
Awesome looking reel Wayne.
Sal
Thanks Sal,
A local CL purchase, the person stood firm at $40, so I folded and gave him the money!
IT is part of my Cabo Killer series!
This reel, a Baja Special and the 114H WEX I purchased from you.
All set when Dominick calls.
Wayne
Okay thanks Wayne, love your real, looks great, nice and sturdy, Domonic, or anyone else, if you take a cruiser to Western Australia, bring TSI 301 and TSI 321, also corrocion X grease & oil with you, plenty of it, the price is sky high over here, TSI 2ounce spray can in Perth is AU $39 cheers Don.
I received parts in the mail from Mike today, there was supposed to be, a foot, 1 or 2 drag washer, as a donation, well Mike has sent me two thirds of a reel, there really is some nice guys & gals in this world ay, a reflection of the good comerardery of this groupe on this forum, and Mike did not beleive me that the grip on the original handle, is nice and comfortable, Mike has sent me a replacement handle as well, hope fully I will get some photos on here of what Mike has sent, mike even apoligized for not cleaning the part for me, have a look the parts, they did not need any cleening, thanks again Mike, cheers Don.
No problem Don, glad I could help. It's not that I didn't believe you about the original handle being comfortable, I just thought if you had a spare you could put the unusual one on your favorite reel. ;D ;D
Mike
Quote from: Donnyboat on May 29, 2017, 07:10:37 AM
I received parts in the mail from Mike today, there was supposed to be, a foot, 1 or 2 drag washer, as a donation, well Mike has sent me two thirds of a reel, there really is some nice guys & gals in this world ay, a reflection of the good comerardery of this groupe on this forum, and Mike did not beleive me that the grip on the original handle, is nice and comfortable, Mike has sent me a replacement handle as well, hope fully I will get some photos on here of what Mike has sent, mike even apoligized for not cleaning the part for me, have a look the parts, they did not need any cleening, thanks again Mike, cheers Don.
Here is a reference to Donnyboat's photo he asked to post for him. Dominick