Liking it a lot.
Any one know if this knob is still available ? ...Jeff
Mo has them.
Jeff, that looks the knob assembly from International VSX. I have a few a buddy gave me and I mounted them on my 12/0's. very nice and grippy.
Well if someone has an extra or one they would sell I'd appreciate it.
These work great on my Baja / US113... Jeff
It looks like the 30TW knob put onto the 113HN or US113 gear stud (those darned squared off holes)
I'm not sure what else you would need to do the modding but:
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/25S-50M.aspx (https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/25S-50M.aspx)
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/24C-50M.aspx (https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/24C-50M.aspx)
Maybe...I haven't seen this one done before so not sure how it was customized.
Jeff - What's up with that cord wrapped on the drag star?
Quote from: nelz on July 09, 2018, 07:54:11 PM
Jeff - What's up with that cord wrapped on the drag star?
Hey Nelz,
The peice of 550 cord is my drag setting.
I know with a quick glance based on where the cord is in relation to the bottom corner of the handle what my drag setting is.
The cord comes in handy at night vs using a mark where I can feel the cord after rebaiting from a prior catch.
It also allows me to go from 10 lbs. of drag to 20 lbs. in about the time it takes to do the same with a 2 speed lever drag.
Please dont tell any of those elite 2 speed lever fellas.
Iet them keep believing you can never adjust your star drag while on a fish & return it again to the prior setting with out scales.
All my star drags that use 40 line & heavier have cord on the star... Jeff
Quote from: mizmo67 on July 09, 2018, 05:02:07 PM
It looks like the 30TW knob put onto the 113HN or US113 gear stud (those darned squared off holes)
I'm not sure what else you would need to do the modding but:
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/25S-50M.aspx (https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/25S-50M.aspx)
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/24C-50M.aspx (https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/24C-50M.aspx)
Maybe...I haven't seen this one done before so not sure how it was customized.
MO !!! That Be It ! Wow!
There will now be peace on earth & I shall sleep soundly ;D In all seriousness..... What an asset you are to this sight ! Jeff
Great idea Jeff, gonna hafta try it!
Mo, now that I think about it, this handle came from you all.
I drilled the hole bigger on the stock US113 handle. I really like the sturdy hardware for attaching it. The pics here explain it.
Quote from: nelz on July 10, 2018, 01:23:22 AM
Great idea Jeff, gonna hafta try it!
It takes the the right diameter & length of cord or it can cause some issues... Jeff
nice find Jeff, that cord thingy is just genious !!
Alex, been doing that since I was around 12 years old... Jeff
Quote from: Rivverrat on July 10, 2018, 01:28:03 AM
Mo, now that I think about it, this handle came from you all.
I drilled the hole bigger on the stock US113 handle. I really like the sturdy hardware for attaching it. The pics here explain it.
I like it!
This works...
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/24N-30TW.aspx
steve
Quote from: Rivverrat on July 10, 2018, 02:21:25 AM
Alex, been doing that since I was around 12 years old... Jeff
when I was starting fishing seriulsy all local guys didnt pay attention on drag settings or drag readings on the reels, they just pull the line from the reel and set the drag depending on the targeted fish (and 80% still do it that way), so, I was taught that way on my begginings, all changed when few years ago I found alan tani and invited me to this site and I started learning about how reels work, as you say LD reels are easy to know the drag settings, but on star drag reels I used to put a non-noticiable mark on the side plate and another on one of the points of the drag star to know my max drag to estimate the usable drag when I moved the star fordward or backwards, you way seems easier than mine, anyway all my marks are already erased, so I might just add that cord thingy when I found a time to do it, sometimes I just set the drag the old way, just pulling the line from the reel 70% of my fisheries are no bigger than 5-12 pounds, no need to play with the drag readings that much.
on all my LD reels I do set the drag with a scale to save the bearings with a really nice scale I have on my tool box ;D ;) ;)
Alex, knowing the drag level with a full spool is only the start of it.
You know with 30 - 40 line a fella thats fished a bit can easily set those lines by hand. However I fish my 60 line like most fish 80. I know pretty close what my drag actually is after a long cast or while drifting a float a ways out in the current.
It really amazes me the number of people that will make a "Swinging For The Fences Cast" having no clue how much their drag increased with all that line out. When it comes down to it, this is really important stuff to know to some degree... Jeff
Quote from: Rivverrat on July 10, 2018, 09:58:34 PM
It really amazes me the number of people that will make a "Swinging For The Fences Cast" having no clue how much their drag increased with all that line out.
I have had really hard time explaining that to some friends, they swear drag keep steady always no matter how much line is out from the spool.
but ooh well, you cannot expect to win all battles.
Quote from: steelfish on July 10, 2018, 11:37:11 PM
Quote from: Rivverrat on July 10, 2018, 09:58:34 PM
It really amazes me the number of people that will make a "Swinging For The Fences Cast" having no clue how much their drag increased with all that line out.
I have had really hard time explaining that to some friends, they swear drag keep steady always no matter how much line is out from the spool.
but ooh well, you cannot expect to win all battles.
If you want to get technical, they aren't wrong the drag doesn't change. What changes is the torque, or moment, the line can impart on the spool based on the moment arm which is now reduced by the height of the line on the spool. Moment is the force multiplied by the perpendicular distance from the axis of rotation, so as the line height reduces the perpendicular distance from the axis of rotation reduces and more force is needed to create the moment to overcome the resistance created by the drag. SCIENCE!
... and in plain English, it's all about leverage. ;D
Fuller spool creates a longer "lever", which pulls off the line easier.
Quote from: rippin_lips on July 11, 2018, 04:58:44 PM
Quote from: steelfish on July 10, 2018, 11:37:11 PM
Quote from: Rivverrat on July 10, 2018, 09:58:34 PM
It really amazes me the number of people that will make a "Swinging For The Fences Cast" having no clue how much their drag increased with all that line out.
I have had really hard time explaining that to some friends, they swear drag keep steady always no matter how much line is out from the spool.
but ooh well, you cannot expect to win all battles.
If you want to get technical, they aren't wrong the drag doesn't change. What changes is the torque, or moment, the line can impart on the spool based on the moment arm which is now reduced by the height of the line on the spool. Moment is the force multiplied by the perpendicular distance from the axis of rotation, so as the line height reduces the perpendicular distance from the axis of rotation reduces and more force is needed to create the moment to overcome the resistance created by the drag. SCIENCE!
so true, well, at the end with less line on the spool you will have more stopping power