Reel Repair by Alan Tani

General Maintenance Tips => General Questions and Trouble Shooting => Topic started by: kallitype on March 18, 2012, 01:05:23 AM

Title: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: kallitype on March 18, 2012, 01:05:23 AM
  Need a left-hand retrieve reel for jigging and mooching for 10-30# salmon in Puget Sound, have not had good luck with an Avet SX 5.3, Accurate too heavy.

Looking at Everol Vertical Jigger vj6 or 12, as well as Jigging Master PE4.  Have also read about Ducro 10 LH.  Any thoughts or cautions from those in the know???

Links:

http://www.everol.com/index.php/our-company/new-models-randd/

http://gofish.co.nz/worldpress/?p=1338   (Ducro 10)

http://www.jignpop.com/jmpe4reel.aspx

   I like the looks of the Okuma Cedros and the Fin-Nor Marquesa, no lefty available.  Same goes for the Makaira, Alan's favorite ...

Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: spottybastard on March 18, 2012, 02:41:33 AM
Wow, judging by your choices I guess budget not much of a concern.

Just wondering, what problems were you having with your Avet?
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: kallitype on March 18, 2012, 02:46:07 AM
Avet---corrosion (clicker) and too easy to put reel into freespool while fighting fish.  ALso some issue with uneven drag.  Many guys love the Avet, though....

 Budget is an issue, but I want a machined from bar stock  kind of reel, not forged or stamped out, and something that will last more than 5 years hard fishing.
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: day0ne on March 18, 2012, 05:58:40 AM
While I can't realy comment on the Everol or the Ducro 10, the Jigging Master is a well known and proven reel with support in this country if you buy it from Kil Song at JignPop. These reels hold up on big tuna.  The PE4 is a bit larger than the Ducro 10 and holds more line than either the Ducro or the VJ6 and weighs the same as the Everol VJ6. BTW, what Accurate is too heavy? The BX-400N (same as the old 197) only weights 1 oz more than the JM PE4 or the Everol VJ6 at 18 oz and has about the same line capacity as the JM. It is 2 oz lighter than the Everol VJ12
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: kallitype on March 18, 2012, 03:22:51 PM
I had a Boss 270 Magnum, but it was a righty.  Accurate BX400 Lefty listed at 20 oz......Everol 17 oz.
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: kallitype on March 19, 2012, 01:13:33 AM
oops----400n 18 oz, like you said.  Missed that!!
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: kallitype on March 19, 2012, 02:32:25 PM
Someone on another firum recommended Aleutecnos 8V---anybody here have experience with Aleutecnos?  The price is outta sight:  $621  !!!

http://www.tackledirect.com/alutecnos-albacore-gorilla-8v-reels.html

http://www.alutecnos.it/page.php?sid=4e152dd147722a638bd4efbe385cfe9e&pageid=CATFA001
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: day0ne on March 20, 2012, 03:52:18 AM
Quote from: kallitype on March 19, 2012, 02:32:25 PM
Someone on another firum recommended Aleutecnos 8V---anybody here have experience with Aleutecnos?  The price is outta sight:  $621  !!!

http://www.tackledirect.com/alutecnos-albacore-gorilla-8v-reels.html

http://www.alutecnos.it/page.php?sid=4e152dd147722a638bd4efbe385cfe9e&pageid=CATFA001

Top notch reels from everything I have heard but 20.5 oz like a BX-400 Accurate
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: kallitype on March 26, 2012, 07:02:57 PM
Settled for a CaNYON 10, VERY SIMILIAR TO AVET MX.  WIll pick up a Maxel sea Lion for a trolling reel, closeout priced from Maxel America....would have loved the Everol or the Gorilla, but $$$ got the wife's veto.
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: Black Pearl on March 26, 2012, 10:00:47 PM
Quote from: kallitype on March 26, 2012, 07:02:57 PM
Settled for a CaNYON 10, VERY SIMILIAR TO AVET MX.  WIll pick up a Maxel sea Lion for a trolling reel, closeout priced from Maxel America....would have loved the Everol or the Gorilla, but $$$ got the wife's veto.
Canyon??? U r serious...
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: Marko on March 28, 2012, 07:38:04 AM
here in Indonesia we have a brand "team kamikaze" that have a product line named " Extreme jigger. priced at 325 USD. i've used it and you can search in Youtube with keyword "Xtreme Jigger".

it's very similar to JM but less price. if You want go super serious, go with Jigging Master. build tough, powerful drag and pleasant to use.

cheers
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: kallitype on March 29, 2012, 12:24:43 AM
Thnks, Marco!  That looks exactly like the Maxel Sea Lion reel, which is a clone of the Jigging Master PE4.
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: day0ne on March 30, 2012, 05:20:06 AM
Quote from: kallitype on March 29, 2012, 12:24:43 AM
Thnks, Marco!  That looks exactly like the Maxel Sea Lion reel, which is a clone of the Jigging Master PE4.

It may be a clone but it isn't a JM. Just because they look alike, doesn't make them equal
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: kallitype on April 01, 2012, 03:54:47 AM
aWHich is better---the Chinese reel, or the Taiwanese one??  THe MAxel reels, in countries where it is sold and supported, have a 5-year warranty, vs 2 years for Canyon, and 1 year for many other reels=, including JM, whose warranty does  not cover bearings.

from Alan Tani's site:

"It's a bit strange that some people talk so negatively about these reels? Unless people got a bad batch or major improvements have gone on recently. I can't see why?

I own a Maxel reel. It's identical to the JM's I've used before. The clicker is in a different location but thats easy to do. Even the parts diagrams look identical. Reel dimensions are the same. I've had poor Asian copies of reels before that broke quickly but the Maxels are very different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEybTfsQEQI

I will be putting it to use on some big Thai catfish in about a month. Should have a report after. My reel's from Europe and came with a 5 year gurantee and I have to say the manufacturing is top class.

It's possible internals may be upgraded in JM reels if they are the same reel. After lots of fishing that will be clear."

   There was a post that showed the internals of Maxel and JM, looked identical.   I think I'll TOFTT and try the lefty Sea Lion.
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: day0ne on April 01, 2012, 05:28:59 AM
Quote from: kallitype on April 01, 2012, 03:54:47 AM
aWHich is better---the Chinese reel, or the Taiwanese one??  THe MAxel reels, in countries where it is sold and supported, have a 5-year warranty, vs 2 years for Canyon, and 1 year for many other reels=, including JM, whose warranty does  not cover bearings.


The JM has a proven track record on large bluefin tuna (200+). The sealion may be OK for what you are fishing for. I can't realy comment on them
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: Black Pearl on April 02, 2012, 09:17:14 PM
Hi Kallitype,

Is this your posted om 360tuna?

http://www.360tuna.com/forum/f37/fs-canyon-hs-15-jigging-reel-new-26524/ (http://www.360tuna.com/forum/f37/fs-canyon-hs-15-jigging-reel-new-26524/)
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: kallitype on April 03, 2012, 08:26:54 PM
yup.  Came into a bit more $$ so will go for a different reel, one with anti-reverse pawl as well as a.r. bearing.
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: Black Pearl on April 04, 2012, 11:42:55 PM
Quote from: kallitype on April 03, 2012, 08:26:54 PM
yup.  Came into a bit more $$ so will go for a different reel, one with anti-reverse pawl as well as a.r. bearing.
Yeah, you were the guy who called me about the OMOTO SENTINEL left hand reel.
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: kallitype on April 05, 2012, 02:20:45 AM
yep, that's one of the reels I'm deliberating on!  One criterion of choice is weight---the Canyon is only 14 ounces sans line.  I;d like to keep it under 16 oz, as I'll be holding the reel for jigging and mooching, not using it in a holder.  Extreme drag is not necessary, 10# is enough for king salmon.  Do you know the price on the X-power lefty?  Does it come in blue?
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: Black Pearl on April 05, 2012, 03:01:48 AM
Quote from: kallitype on April 05, 2012, 02:20:45 AM
yep, that's one of the reels I'm deliberating on!  One criterion of choice is weight---the Canyon is only 14 ounces sans line.  I;d like to keep it under 16 oz, as I'll be holding the reel for jigging and mooching, not using it in a holder.  Extreme drag is not necessary, 10# is enough for king salmon.  Do you know the price on the X-power lefty?  Does it come in blue?
The SENTINEL is XPower. It is just a 2 speeds. It is not 16 ozs because of the thicker gears.
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: kallitype on April 05, 2012, 03:35:05 PM
Are any OMOto 16 oz or less?  Thanks for your help!!
Title: Re: jigging master vs Everol vs Ducro
Post by: Black Pearl on April 05, 2012, 05:14:52 PM
Quote from: kallitype on April 05, 2012, 03:35:05 PM
Are any OMOto 16 oz or less?  Thanks for your help!!
OMOTO VS 10 will be around 16oz, but you might have to get it from AU. You can also get the Atlas 200 (it is the same reel made by OMOTO as VS10).