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General Maintenance Tips => Ordering Reel Parts => Topic started by: Killerbug on November 29, 2011, 02:02:47 AM

Title: High end German and Japanese miniature bearings from SKF, INA, FAG
Post by: Killerbug on November 29, 2011, 02:02:47 AM
Found a shop that sells miniature bearings from Germany and Japan like INA FAG, SKF, or Koyo, probably the best brands money
can buy.  

http://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/

or here

http://www.bearing-king.co.uk/

For tolerance infos like ISO or Jis you have to check out the tech's at the manufactures homepage. But even the cheapest SKF miniature bearings are ISO P5(ABEC 5)

http://www.skf.com/portal/skf/home/products?lang=en&maincatalogue=1&newlink=1_1_8

But top quality is actually cheap if you know what to look for, an P5 SKF 3x10x4 Open Stainless steel bearing costs only 5.8 $

http://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/p55001/W6232Z+Stainless+Metal+Shielded+Deep+Groove+Ball+Bearing+3x10x4mm/product_info.html
Title: Re: High end German and Japanese miniature bearings from SKF, INA, FAG
Post by: Killerbug on November 29, 2011, 03:53:33 AM
Smoothdrag still have the best prices on standard size SS reel bearings, but simply bearings has many different non standard ones used in handles etc.
Title: Re: High end German and Japanese miniature bearings from SKF, INA, FAG
Post by: Killerbug on November 29, 2011, 05:53:30 PM
Here a funny movie about bearings, enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6svVy1lYOA
Title: Re: High end German and Japanese miniature bearings from SKF, INA, FAG
Post by: hafnor on November 30, 2011, 02:26:02 PM
WOW! nice reading and Video. Thank you very much. I still can not understand how they fit the balls into the bearing...?
Title: Re: High end German and Japanese miniature bearings from SKF, INA, FAG
Post by: paal on November 30, 2011, 04:56:42 PM
Thor, that puzzled me for quite a while too :) Untill I realized that they bunch up all the balls on one side of the outer race. Then there's plenty of space at the "opposite" side of the outer race to place the inner race. With the inner race in place, the balls are evenly spaced around the bearing, and the cage is put in place, preventing the balls to bunch up again. Now, everything is interlocking.
Title: Re: High end German and Japanese miniature bearings from SKF, INA, FAG
Post by: hafnor on December 02, 2011, 12:45:02 PM
WOW! haha, that makes sense, but logic can be hard to figure out! Thank you Pål
Title: Re: High end German and Japanese miniature bearings from SKF, INA, FAG
Post by: Nessie Hunter on December 02, 2011, 06:42:44 PM
Great video find..   

Thanks, very interesting....   
Title: Re: High end German and Japanese miniature bearings from SKF, INA, FAG
Post by: Killerbug on December 13, 2011, 12:37:30 AM
I have got tremendous feedback on the quality bearings from a lot of you, thanks!.  It seems as the interests for branded bearings are on the rise, especially in Europe.

I got a message the other day from a member, telling me that the British company Smbbearings, sells Japanese EZO Stainless at only 3£ for an average miniature bearing. I have placed my first order, and will give you some feed back on the products when they arrive.

http://www.smbbearings.com/Framesets/Miniature_Metric_Frame.htm

Title: Re: High end German and Japanese miniature bearings from SKF, INA, FAG
Post by: Bryan Young on December 13, 2011, 04:25:04 AM
Wow Morten, thanks for the resources all in one place.  You sure know how to roll. ;D
Title: Re: High end German and Japanese miniature bearings from SKF, INA, FAG
Post by: alantani on December 13, 2011, 07:12:16 AM
morten, it's nice having you on board!
Title: Re: High end German and Japanese miniature bearings from SKF, INA, FAG
Post by: Killerbug on December 16, 2011, 04:55:20 PM
Her some information on the steel used by EZO

KS440/ACD34/X65Cr13 grade stainless steel with a lower carbon content is used by EZO Japan and has greater corrosion resistance, greater load capacity (approx 10 percent less than chrome steel) and superior low noise qualities to the standard AISI440C grade.
The corrosion resistance of stainless steel can be increased by passivation (see section below). 400 grade stainless steel will also withstand higher temperatures than chrome steel, coping with up to 250C constant and up to 300C intermittent with reduced load capacity. Above 300C, bearing life can be considerably shortened.

Read more: http://www.smbbearings.com/SMBtechdata1.htm#ixzz1giXpGxS1
Title: Re: High end German and Japanese miniature bearings from SKF, INA, FAG
Post by: mojocvh on April 04, 2012, 08:27:01 PM
From the [long] distant past I seem to remember something about the surprise they got in the North Sea oil industry when they discovered that not all [and in fact only a couple of grades of stainless steel] were in fact long term salt water proof, the others just corroded at a slower rate than steel....
Title: Re: High end German and Japanese miniature bearings from SKF, INA, FAG
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on April 26, 2012, 07:39:48 PM
came up with this while researching about EZO bearings. find it interesting especially the thrust bearings, maybe ???just maybe ???we can substitute these ones for the lever drags, tight lines.

Roller bearings;

http://catalog.astbearings.com/db/service?domain=ast&command=browse&category=ball_bearings

Thrust bearings;

http://www.astbearings.com/catalog.html?category=double_row_ang_cont_bearing
Title: Re: High end German and Japanese miniature bearings from SKF, INA, FAG
Post by: Killerbug on June 04, 2012, 11:50:57 AM
Quote from: mojocvh on April 04, 2012, 08:27:01 PM
From the [long] distant past I seem to remember something about the surprise they got in the North Sea oil industry when they discovered that not all [and in fact only a couple of grades of stainless steel] were in fact long term salt water proof, the others just corroded at a slower rate than steel....

Hi, thats in fact the case with stainless steel. No steel is 100% corrosion free.
Title: Re: High end German and Japanese miniature bearings from SKF, INA, FAG
Post by: cloudman on February 09, 2013, 05:16:47 AM
We are able to get the EZO bearings here in Hong Kong at $1.2/ bearing, this is used in Penn 6500SS spinning reels
If you want some sent send me details of bearing size and numbers needed and I will get you a wot and cost of shipping
Kim
Title: Re: High end German and Japanese miniature bearings from SKF, INA, FAG
Post by: El Guapo on April 16, 2014, 07:33:44 PM
better half's nephew came here once with his skate board.. these thing's are like fitted with abec 9 and 11 type swiss bearings and giving the one wheel a spin with his foot my bottom jaw was hanging on the ground seeing the speed of that wheel with those bearings

obviously got me thinking about it for reels but with salt water environment don't think it will survive very long and finding the right size was near impossible as they much smaller than reel bearing sizes but there are some super bearings out there and just wish there are for reels.. whether it makes a difference or not to the reel don't really matter.. i just gots to know lol

any ideas or advice  :)
Title: Re: High end German and Japanese miniature bearings from SKF, INA, FAG
Post by: Ken_D on April 18, 2014, 03:01:25 PM
Hello. I believe the ABEC scale only goes to 9... Web searches indicate abec 11 is a brand name for a wheel.  Mayhaps this wiki article  will be of assistance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABEC_scale    Whereas I only fish fresh water, I use high chrome 52100 alloy steel ABEC 1 bearings. (.99 cents each)
I helped invent copper wire, by holding on to one end of a penny, and stretching it way out... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: High end German and Japanese miniature bearings from SKF, INA, FAG
Post by: El Guapo on April 18, 2014, 07:11:37 PM
thanks for link.. clears up a lot.
Title: Re: High end German and Japanese miniature bearings from SKF, INA, FAG
Post by: kevin cozens on August 08, 2023, 06:52:38 PM
Quote from: Killerbug on November 29, 2011, 02:02:47 AMFound a shop that sells miniature bearings from Germany and Japan like INA FAG, SKF, or Koyo, probably the best brands money
can buy. 

http://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/

or here

http://www.bearing-king.co.uk/

For tolerance infos like ISO or Jis you have to check out the tech's at the manufactures homepage. But even the cheapest SKF miniature bearings are ISO P5(ABEC 5)

http://www.skf.com/portal/skf/home/products?lang=en&maincatalogue=1&newlink=1_1_8

But top quality is actually cheap if you know what to look for, an P5 SKF 3x10x4 Open Stainless steel bearing costs only 5.8 $

http://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/p55001/W6232Z+Stainless+Metal+Shielded+Deep+Groove+Ball+Bearing+3x10x4mm/product_info.html
i have used simply bearing many times over the years for my bearings but never reel bearings. they are a great company to deal with and their prices are excellent