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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn => Topic started by: Johnj67 on March 12, 2017, 08:27:17 PM

Title: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: Johnj67 on March 12, 2017, 08:27:17 PM
HI all. I am new here and have been searching everywhere for answers, I am looking for a way to either make my reels manual or try to find a pum. I dont want to snap of 20 dollar lures trying to reach big stripers in the canal.
Title: Re: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: Bryan Young on March 12, 2017, 08:59:32 PM
Quote from: Johnj67 on March 12, 2017, 08:27:17 PM
HI all. I am new here and have been searching everywhere for answers, I am looking for a way to either make my reels manual or try to find a pum. I dont want to snap of 20 dollar lures trying to reach big stripers in the canal.
Welcome John.

What's a pum?

I have never had the bail come over on me on the 650SS or 750SS.  Not sure what your problem could be.
Title: Re: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: thorhammer on March 12, 2017, 09:09:11 PM
pick up, manual.  Don't ask me why it's not MPU, which would make more sense, Bry, but that is how it's described way back for the big Mitchell's, and some Z's have that option.

I expect Fred or Lou probably know of PUM kit, probably as aftermarket, for SS if it exists.

John
Title: Re: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: STRIPER LOU on March 12, 2017, 09:24:15 PM
John, will this help you out?

.................Lou

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MANUAL-CONVERSION-KIT-FOR-PENN-REEL-650SSM-750SSM-850SSM-ALL-STAINLESS-STEEL-/112304581830?hash=item1a25dfecc6:g:QlMAAOxyM89SbwQ4
Title: Re: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: Alto Mare on March 12, 2017, 10:53:50 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on March 12, 2017, 08:59:32 PM
Quote from: Johnj67 on March 12, 2017, 08:27:17 PM
HI all. I am new here and have been searching everywhere for answers, I am looking for a way to either make my reels manual or try to find a pum. I dont want to snap of 20 dollar lures trying to reach big stripers in the canal.
Welcome John.

What's a pum?

I have never had the bail come over on me on the 650SS or 750SS.  Not sure what your problem could be.
It does happen, if you keep the line roller lined up with the bottom of the rod and just a little to the right, it will help.

Quote from: STRIPER LOU on March 12, 2017, 09:24:15 PM
John, will this help you out?

.................Lou

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MANUAL-CONVERSION-KIT-FOR-PENN-REEL-650SSM-750SSM-850SSM-ALL-STAINLESS-STEEL-/112304581830?hash=item1a25dfecc6:g:QlMAAOxyM89SbwQ4
I'm not sure that will do Lou, the part # for the bail arm on the SSM, is different than the SS, I'm thinking it wouldn't work.

John, I have a couple, I will sell you one if you really need it, the cost is $25 + shipping.
Here is a pick, these should work on the 550SS-650SS-750SS & 850SS.

As you can see it only comes with two parts, you will need to use your own roller and screw:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/unnamed.jpg) (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/pescatore1/media/unnamed.jpg.html)

Sal
Title: Re: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: Johnj67 on March 13, 2017, 01:31:21 PM
Thank you all for your help!! Sal that would be great if I could buy one , two if you are looking to get rid of them, but one will get me going!! What a great website. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: thorhammer on March 13, 2017, 02:00:02 PM
You've just encountered three of the best folks you'll ever meet too, in Sal, Bry and Lou.
Title: Re: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: STRIPER LOU on March 13, 2017, 04:33:32 PM
Sal, thanks for the correction. I wasn't quite sure.

John, that's more than kind and please add your name to the list of many others!

Best,  ..  Lou
Title: Re: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: Johnj67 on March 14, 2017, 05:16:42 PM
Thanks guys! Sal you are the man! Payment sent!😎
Title: Re: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: Johnj67 on March 19, 2017, 12:36:15 PM
Sal I got those PUM s. Beautiful, love them. Thank you very much!!! ;D
Title: Re: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: foakes on March 19, 2017, 02:05:58 PM
When you get them installed -- show everyone a pic or two, John.

Thanks!

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: Alto Mare on March 19, 2017, 02:22:32 PM
Quote from: Johnj67 on March 19, 2017, 12:36:15 PM
Sal I got those PUM s. Beautiful, love them. Thank you very much!!! ;D
Geat! I'm glad they made it over there.
Those will require a little getting used to, once you do, you'll never go back.

Sal
Title: Re: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: Johnj67 on March 28, 2017, 01:42:45 PM
THANKS SAL...BE A LITTLE WHILE TIL I POST PICS, I OVER TORQUED THE BAIL ARM SCREW, GUESS WHAT HAPPENED!! :o :'( :-\ OOPS. WAITING FOR ANOTHER ONE!! DO THEY MAKE PUM KITS FOR 710/710Z. ??
Title: Re: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: Midway Tommy on March 28, 2017, 03:56:50 PM
Quote from: Johnj67 on March 28, 2017, 01:42:45 PM
THANKS SAL...BE A LITTLE WHILE TIL I POST PICS, I OVER TORQUED THE BAIL ARM SCREW, GUESS WHAT HAPPENED!! :o :'( :-\ OOPS. WAITING FOR ANOTHER ONE!! DO THEY MAKE PUM KITS FOR 710/710Z. ??

That's too bad! I think the only thing worse than over torquing any type of reel screw is when someone else had previously over torqued and the head pops off under a normal torque down. I've had that happen a time or two and my wife learned a few choice words even she'd never heard before.   >:(  ;D
Title: Re: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: Alto Mare on March 28, 2017, 09:02:30 PM
Quote from: Johnj67 on March 28, 2017, 01:42:45 PM
THANKS SAL...BE A LITTLE WHILE TIL I POST PICS, I OVER TORQUED THE BAIL ARM SCREW, GUESS WHAT HAPPENED!! :o :'( :-\ OOPS. WAITING FOR ANOTHER ONE!! DO THEY MAKE PUM KITS FOR 710/710Z. ??
John, what kind of damage? did the screw snapp? if so that could be removed, or did you damage the rotor?
Yes, the PUM for the 710 is available but not easy to find.
Here is one, i believe he has 2 available:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PENN-710-710Z-711-711Z-MACHINED-MANUAL-PICK-UP-PUM-FOR-MANUAL-FISHING-/371905400798?hash=item56974a0fde:m:mLgXbtX4z_OGntnC3OIIfaw

Sal
Title: Re: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: Alto Mare on March 28, 2017, 09:20:54 PM
John, I just grabbed both, at times when I post here someone else grabbs them.
Let me know if you want me to send you one, the cost for me to send it to you is $25 total.

You are under no pressure, I'm ok with keeping both for myself.


Sal
Title: Re: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: Johnj67 on April 02, 2017, 01:09:48 AM
yes the screw is stuck in the rotor, i haven't tried to drill it out yet because  I have been cleaning and rebuilding some old mitchells. I did my first 406 pinion gear. What do you think happened when i removed it. Yup lost about 5 bearings.. Luckily i had  ordered an extra pinion gear assembly... :o. But thats the learning curve. I forgot the order of putting it back together so many times I ended up doing it at least 5 times. Piece of cake now!!! I most likely will need to get a new rotor for the 650....im gonna put the other pum on my 750...carefully!!
Title: Re: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: Johnj67 on April 02, 2017, 01:18:07 AM
sal yes please!!! I will take one of those for the 710z... for 25 ;D
Title: Re: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: Johnj67 on April 02, 2017, 01:26:55 AM
I sent you payment for one 710z PUM Sal....Thank You sir
Title: Re: penn650ss/750ss
Post by: Alto Mare on April 02, 2017, 04:53:13 AM
Good timing! I got those today :)...I'll get one out to you.

Sal