I'm more a Penn guy, but this jumped into my hand at the Mt. Dora Antique Boat Show Swap Meet last year (along with a minty Long Beach); if you can believe it was not even on a table it was laying on the cement parking lot with a pile of old junk reels. Guess I saved it's life. A little history, these were made 1949 to 1951, Model 209 "C", 3.2-1 gears, 150 yd spool, star drag, spool tension oil cap, chrome/brass spool, 6 pillar design, brass main gear & s/s pinion gear, green medallion. Listed as all Salt water. Very well made. Interesting reel I had never seen one before, I guess they are pretty rare.
OC's answer to the Mariner(?). Thought you all might like to see. It's mated up with an old San Diego Bamboo SW rod I've had for years. Looks cool on the wall. .....just as I swore off collecting.
Nice grab. So pretty for being that era.
Nice find, I want one now that I've seen one. Dominick
Great pickup. Classic looking combo
Very cool reel! First time I've seen this one...thanks for posting. 8)
Definitely a take off of the Penn 49 except a bit narrower than a 49. With such a short production run, I'd say this model is tough to find in any condition
Ted
Thats a very nice combo
You'd be the king of the Party Boat in 51 with that combo! Very nice indeed.
The Man
Nice ! Never realized OC made anything like that.
Very nice indeed. Congratulations on your find.
Greg
Lucky Man, great combo, I have a Ocean City, Bay City, that was kindly donated by Crow, thanks again Arlyn, it works under the same prinsible, I have`nt found a vintage rod to go with it so far. thanks for showing us, cheers Don.
Man, that's a great outfit. Show us more of the rod if it's convenient. Does it have a label. Is San Diego a brand name?
-steve
I used SD as a location, I lived there in the 80's early 90's. There were a lot of good swap meets back then, and old bamboo ocean fishing rods were worthless. I ended up finding quite a few, sold some and kept the best 6, this is one. I will start another post of a couple of them. This one is all original, no name which was common back in the era they were built. So. Cal has always had a lot of custom rod builders even in the bamboo era of the 40's, 50's before f/g. I used to know the builders name but long forgotten. They were a work of art. The ones I have are straight, solid and fish able (not be me though) after 70+ years. More later, RC.
That's a nice combo, enjoy it!
Sal
Cool reel design. Great condition too.
Dwight
I made an offer on a 209 being sold in Philly and it was accepted. It should be on its way. I beat Sal to it. :D Dominick
Sounds good Dom, do you have a rod for it, enjoy, Time you got that Wayne bloke, organized with his 3/0, he has possibly forgotten about it, his memory has gone he tells me, cheers Don.
That reel is in very nice condition! For all that were not aware of these little beauties, Ocean City also made some "sisters" to the 209. Below you will find the 109 and the Seattle as well as my 209. These reels are quite hard to find but a "reel" joy to have in your collection. I do agree that they were Ocean City's answer to Penns 49 series or maybe vise-versa? Interesting question. Now I will have to delve into the books!
Nice set, I found these ads when I was researching my #209 so I'll pass along. Guess they were all called Seattle's. Hard to believe they sold for the reels for the 'princely' sum of $11.00. hehe I was very impressed with the quality of construction, I've had a few other OC's nowhere this nice. Wonder what they are worth today? I seem to remember seeing one at around $135 a few years ago. RC
Thanks men for all the pics & catalogs, nice bit of history, cheers Don.
That 210 with plastic arbor is cool
No coincidence they named these reels Seattle.
During that time frame, the Penn 49 was salmon fisherman's favorite reel in the Pacific Northwest
Ted
https://reeltalk.orcaonline.org/viewtopic.php?t=10146 (https://reeltalk.orcaonline.org/viewtopic.php?t=10146)
-s
The Seattle is another one of those Ocean City reels that has a confused past. One thing for sure, it was a copy of the Penn 49 design. Penn brought these tall wire line trolling reels to the market in the late 1930's, Ocean City joined in in 1941 with the early Seattle model 1100's. After the war the Seattle model numbers changed to 210, 209 & 109. leave it to Ocean City to keep the "Confusion Aspect" alive and well. They were great reels but never commanded the market like the Penn tall reels did. They were introduced in 1941 and were gone by 1952. Can be difficult to find, especially the early Model 1100's. I have never had a Model 1100 in my hand. The catalog says it has dual controls, like a Penn 49, the later Seattle Models' did not have that. The Model 1100's were really Penn Model 49 knock offs. Not so much the post-war Seattle models.
I finally arrived home after 16 weeks of isolating at our cabin in the mountains. Heading back tomorrow. Too much Covid 19 in San Mateo. We had an appointment at the vet for molly (not my wife the dog) and we received a call that the appointment was cancelled because one of the staff tested positive so they all need to be tested and quarantined for 14 days. I'm getting out of here.
The OC 209 was waiting for me and I was anxious to take it apart. It is in good condition but I ran into a problem with getting the spool off. there is no rust but I think the spool is stuck due to corrosion in the pinion gear. It just won't come out. Fred to the rescue. He said to send it to him and he will see what the problem is. Then he is going to hand deliver it to Wayne after working on it. As far as good guys go Fred is one of the best. Here's to you Fred (beer in hand.) Thank you. Dominick
Hold on to your brew — until you see the bill, Counselor!
Best, Fred
I got so frustrated trying to take it apart, that whatever the charge it is worth it. Besides, I know you, the charge will be reasonable. You can have my first and second born but, you will pay me to send them back. ;D Dominick
I'm guessing the only reason Dominick was having a tough time getting the reel apart was because his good set of screwdrivers disappeared off his porch. :D - john
Quote from: Brewcrafter on July 02, 2020, 03:20:45 PM
I'm guessing the only reason Dominick was having a tough time getting the reel apart was because his good set of screwdrivers disappeared off his porch. :D - john
BAMB ;D
Wayne
Got it in the mail this afternoon, Dominick --
Got it apart -- like you and I figured -- the pinion was corroded onto the spool shaft.
A fair amount of Green Verdigris corrosion inside the narrow frame assembly, some rust in other places -- but not bad -- just about what is expected -- no big deal.
I'll soak it in mineral spirits for a couple of days -- then hit it with the Ultrasonic Cleaner to finish it up -- burnish all of the parts -- replace the drags -- synthetic Grease and oil -- grease the innards and the screws, test, confirm all functions, retest and fine tune -- bag it and give it to Wayne in 9 days -- along with some other OC's for you.
I would normally just do the US cleaner right now -- with lacquer thinner -- but we have guests for the holiday -- and are going to watch Hamilton streaming tonight -- and be a good host to entertain relatives, eat hot dogs, chili beans, watermelon, and ice cream. And my sister-in-law is sleeping down the hall from the upstairs reel shop -- so I don't want to bother her as she enjoys the mountains over the weekend.
Best,
Fred
Fred, you are the best. I did not want to force it because I did not want to bend the yoke. How were you able to force it out of there? Dominick
Used the ancient Alan Tani double Screwdriver opposing sides twist lift technique, Dominick --
Removed every screw possible on the plates and bridge to get a little daylight and separation wiggle room.
2 old screwdrivers -- inspected the safe spots for the driver blades with a flashlight -- evenly twisted the screwdrivers so that the pinion and engagement collar would come off of the spool axle. Generally this works if the rust isn't too bad.
No damages.
Best,
Fred
Yes Fred the screw driver trick, comes in handy, I had trouble with a GTI 330, tail plate bearing about 2 weeks ago, managed to direct some acetone & auto trans oil 50/50 through a syringe, onto the spool shaft, keeping in mind of the line level & clicker plastic cogs, let it sit for two days, managed to get it moving in & out enough to get the screw driver in there, & koo bang, out came the bearing still on the spool shaft, I have made up a puller, & managed to get the bearing off, funny when your having trouble like that, we tend to say, he`s a bastard, but when you get it working, then she`s a beauti, cheers Don.
Got the 80 year old OC 209 completed for Dominick --
Removed the Verdigris green corrosion, crud, neutralized and stopped the rust, polished all of the insides -- and the exterior as much as possible.
Needed to do a little surgery for a couple of broken off screws in the posts. Typically, I would just replace the posts -- but these narrow guys are beyond tough to source. So -- drill, extract, re-tapped a couple.
Found some new 80 YO OC drags in an old bin.
This is a very narrow reel at 1 1/8" wide -- but a tall spool.
New drags, new lubricants, 1 minute and 40 seconds of free-spool with brass bushings.
This reel is impressive. The engineering and components of this old OC -- are actually stronger than a Penn -- not the 349 -- but the 49.
Best,
Fred
Let's hear it for Fred. That is professional work. Fred has the hands of a surgeon. A minute and 40 seconds of free spool. You can't beat it. Thanks Fred. Dominick
100 seconds of free spool :o
shut the front door!
A little background. A couple of years ago some of the AT members put together a trip to Lake Edison in the Southern Sierras (https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=20865.0). My Wife, Linda and I went and we had a great time. Upon arrival we visited with Fred at his campsite. Linda mentioned that she was hungry and Fred, ever the fine host made her a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Linda was thrilled and told Fred that it was "the best pbj she had ever had. As a matter of fact she reminds Fred of that fact every chance she gets. So as you know this thread is about Ocean City 209 and that I sent the reel to Fred to service it for me. A couple of weeks ago the reel was returned with a couple of surprises. A well serviced reel and a knife for me. A jar of peanut butter and jelly for Linda. We love you Fred. Dominick
QuoteA little background. A couple of years ago some of the AT members put together a trip to Lake Edison in the Southern Sierras (https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=20865.0). My Wife, Linda and I went and we had a great time. Upon arrival we visited with Fred at his campsite. Linda mentioned that she was hungry and Fred, ever the fine host made her a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Linda was thrilled and told Fred that it was "the best ppj she had ever had. As a matter of fact she reminds Fred of that fact every chance she gets. So as you know this thread is about Ocean City 209 and that I sent the reel to Fred to service it for me. A couple of weeks ago the reel was returned with a couple of surprises. A well serviced reel and a knife for me. A jar of peanut butter and jelly for Linda. We love you Fred. Dominick
I am impressed. No doubt Fred is a special guy. Anyone that likes Smuckers Peanut Butter knows what the best is.