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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: FishermanTom81 on November 14, 2013, 11:34:45 PM

Title: 309 Gear Change
Post by: FishermanTom81 on November 14, 2013, 11:34:45 PM
Is it possible to change the gears in a 309 so I can have a faster gear ratio?
Title: Re: 309 Gear Change
Post by: Frank on November 14, 2013, 11:51:55 PM
Yes. Newell used to make a kit for doing this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171171022754?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

I'm sure forum members will reply with other options.
Title: Re: 309 Gear Change
Post by: broschro on November 15, 2013, 12:42:39 AM
You can get them from black pearl right here on this site. These will also fit the 500 505 and the  112h
Title: Re: 309 Gear Change
Post by: akfish on November 15, 2013, 01:38:06 AM
Hmm. At the very least the faster gears will need a different yoke before they will work in a 309. I'm not sure that the inside diameter of the pinion gear fits the 309 spool either. I know hat you cannot put a Jigmaster or 112H pinion in a 309. They have the same main gear but very different sized pinions.
Title: Re: 309 Gear Change
Post by: floating doc on November 15, 2013, 03:19:16 AM
A 309 with the Black Pearl gears? That would be great!
Title: Re: 309 Gear Change
Post by: alantani on November 15, 2013, 03:43:35 AM
i don't think they are interchangeable.  the penn 309 takes a 13-85 pinion gear, not a 13-500.   the diameters are different.   :-\
Title: Re: 309 Gear Change
Post by: floating doc on November 15, 2013, 04:25:26 AM
Thanks Alan. Seemed too good to be true.   :)
Title: Re: 309 Gear Change
Post by: Frank on November 15, 2013, 09:39:29 AM
I'm just going by what Carl Newell had printed on the package. Here's another Newell kit. Click on 'see original listing' and refer to picture 3:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Newell-High-5-to-1-Speed-Reel-Gears-Penn-Reel-Newell-Reel-/200982366570?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ecb7b896a
Title: Re: 309 Gear Change
Post by: Frank on November 15, 2013, 10:01:30 AM
Here's a picture of the Newell kit package stating it will fit a Penn 309 - Strange.
Title: Re: 309 Gear Change
Post by: akfish on November 15, 2013, 12:51:34 PM
The drag washers fit; the gears do not.
Title: Re: 309 Gear Change
Post by: Frank on November 15, 2013, 02:07:04 PM
Well I guess it won't fit then. Sorry about that.

This site states "Adaptable" whatever that means:

SPECIFICATIONS:

Model: Newell Part No. GK-1F
Gear Ratio: 5 to 1
Adaptable Reels: Penn Special Senator 112H 3/0, Penn Level Wind 309, Penn Jigmaster 500 and Penn Jigmaster 501

http://berinsontackle.com/products-page/4-reel-parts/newell-51-ratio-stainless-steel-gear-kit-gk-1f-for-penn-112h-500-501-reels-new/
Title: Re: 309 Gear Change
Post by: alantani on November 16, 2013, 01:35:48 AM
wierd.....  the pinion gears are clearly different.  anybody got both reels?
Title: Re: 309 Gear Change
Post by: Ron Jones on November 16, 2013, 03:23:42 AM
Can you use a 112H bridge i a 309 maybe? Similar to the Grouper Special.
Ron
Title: Re: 309 Gear Change
Post by: garking84 on May 19, 2016, 02:57:02 AM
Has anyone figured out how to make these newell gears work on a 309? I have a 309 and I want to install these gears, I know the pinions are different. But I wonder why the paper says that newell gears work on 309??
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