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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn 99/Jigmaster/SurfMaster/Squidder Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: festus on March 20, 2020, 12:44:10 AM

Title: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: festus on March 20, 2020, 12:44:10 AM
I acquired this Penn Squidder 145 in a good deal in a box of Penn conventionals a couple years ago from Facebook.  Ebay sellers wanted over 50  bucks for a used aluminum spool for this model, and almost as much for a used bakelite spool, plus shipping.

Fred Oakes came to the rescue again, sent me this new old stock bakelite spool.  Thanks again, Fred.

One of my old Penn Delmars is full of braided dacron.  I'll borrow a generous layer of braided dacron for this bad boy then filler up with pink Ande 20 lb. mono. 

Anyone else have one of these Squidder 145?  If so, how do they cast?
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: jon_elc on March 25, 2020, 12:04:42 AM
i have one- it was my grandpa's...  it looks like he used it alot.  i recently rebuilt it with a stainless sleeve and new drag parts, since it was worn out from being cranked all the way down...  have only test-casted it so far.  the spool spins like crazy, super easy to birdsnest if you aren't carefulnor have an educated thumb,

I'm thinking about magging it.. but mot likely i'll use it for dropping down on rock cod, after we're allowed to get out again... so casting and backlash wouldn't be a problem for my use.

crank handle and eva knob from prochallenger..
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: Decker on March 25, 2020, 12:57:18 AM
I like the 145 a lot for surfcasting.  You can put the 30-66 stainless base on it.  The width is a good balance for distance-casting, balance, and manageability.  I want to try casting braid with it on a heaver rod.  Haven't magged one yet but it's not hard to do.

Keep an eye out for a bargain aluminum spool on eB.  Maybe set up an alert.  They will come.   Pretty sure I've picked up one or two for $15-25.  A lot of people don't know what to call the mid size Squidders and Jigmasters, so sometimes they are mislabeled, which helps keep the bidding price down. ;)

Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: Darin Crofton on March 25, 2020, 02:57:34 AM
Hey Festus I have two newell 145 spools that I got in a deal awhile back of a box full of penn parts, if you want one send me a pm with your info, it's on me buddy!
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: Decker on March 25, 2020, 03:00:09 AM
Quote from: Darin Crofton on March 25, 2020, 02:57:34 AM
Hey Festus I have two newell 145 spools that I got in a deal awhile back of a box full of penn parts, if you want one send me a pm with your info, it's on me buddy!

Sweet!   
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: oc1 on March 25, 2020, 05:23:44 AM
Quote from: jon_elc on March 25, 2020, 12:04:42 AM
I'm thinking about magging it.
I magged mine and ran out of room under the hood.  It is just about there but needs a few more small wafers
-steve
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: Decker on March 25, 2020, 05:47:41 AM
Quote from: oc1 on March 25, 2020, 05:23:44 AM
I magged mine and ran out of room under the hood.  It is just about there but needs a few more small wafers
-steve

How many you got in there, Steve?  What are you throwing?
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: Rancanfish on March 25, 2020, 03:23:07 PM
I've got two Surfy 150's.  Great little reels.
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: festus on March 25, 2020, 05:17:26 PM
Quote from: Darin Crofton on March 25, 2020, 02:57:34 AM
Hey Festus I have two newell 145 spools that I got in a deal awhile back of a box full of penn parts, if you want one send me a pm with your info, it's on me buddy!
Thanks for the generous offer, Darin.

A few days ago one of our members said that some of the Newell spools, base, and bars for a Penn 145 aren't the same width as stock Penn parts.  I don't have any idea about this, but which type of wheel do your Newells have on the clicker side?
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: Alto Mare on March 25, 2020, 05:31:48 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 25, 2020, 05:28:15 PM
Quote from: festus on March 25, 2020, 05:17:26 PM
Quote from: Darin Crofton on March 25, 2020, 02:57:34 AM
Hey Festus I have two newell 145 spools that I got in a deal awhile back of a box full of penn parts, if you want one send me a pm with your info, it's on me buddy!

Thanks for the generous offer, Darin.

A few days ago one of our members said that some of the Newell spools, base, and bars for a Penn 145 aren't the same width as stock Penn parts.  I don't have any idea about this, but which type of wheel do your Newells have on the clicker side?

All that I have noticed about Newell spool is that the shaft is just a little thicker.
Usually when you remove the spool, the bearing gets hung up in the shaft.
It will still work though.
You could fine tune it a little if you wanted to by sanding the shaft a little
The 150 is a great size, I have Surfmasters and Squidders in that size I use and really like them.

Sal
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: Decker on March 25, 2020, 05:51:52 PM
Wait, to clarify, the mid-size Squidder is the 145.  Mid-size Surfmaster is the 150.  The spool shafts are different.  The Squidder spool shafts are longer.

I've never had any problem with Newell spools on my Squidders.  Festus, I don't believe that different clicker gear makes a difference - it fits.

This is a 145 Newell spool.  Note the long shaft on the gear (right) side:
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: Darin Crofton on March 25, 2020, 07:11:05 PM
These are most def newell 145 spools, here you go bud:
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: Gfish on March 25, 2020, 07:19:02 PM
I have an old 146. Makes alot of hissing noise when I cast, which I thought was the bearings, but starting to wonder if it's due in part to the fins on the Newell spool. Stacked 3 sets of 2-non-ss washers on the tail-plate, covered them with epoxy(prevent corrosion) and each stack has 3~3/8"dia. neodymium magnets on top. It casts 1-4 oz jigs/50lb.braid/ a little thumb control, so well I'm surprised.
Good on ya Darin!
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: mo65 on March 25, 2020, 08:02:19 PM
   I've never had one of the spools with that hexagon looking click wheel. I'm assuming it has a slower click...like a longer pause between clicks?
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: xjchad on March 25, 2020, 08:05:01 PM
Quote from: mo65 on March 25, 2020, 08:02:19 PM
   I've never had one of the spools with that hexagon looking click wheel. I'm assuming it has a slower click...like a longer pause between clicks?

That's what I was thinking Mo.  Less line pressure.  Might be nice for still water catfishing  ;D
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: Decker on March 25, 2020, 08:16:52 PM
Quote from: xjchad on March 25, 2020, 08:05:01 PM
Quote from: mo65 on March 25, 2020, 08:02:19 PM
   I've never had one of the spools with that hexagon looking click wheel. I'm assuming it has a slower click...like a longer pause between clicks?

That's what I was thinking Mo.  Less line pressure.  Might be nice for still water catfishing  ;D

Yep, true dat.  The spikey ones make more ruckus.
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: mo65 on March 25, 2020, 08:18:16 PM
Quote from: xjchad on March 25, 2020, 08:05:01 PM
Quote from: mo65 on March 25, 2020, 08:02:19 PM
   I've never had one of the spools with that hexagon looking click wheel. I'm assuming it has a slower click...like a longer pause between clicks?

That's what I was thinking Mo.  Less line pressure.  Might be nice for still water catfishing  ;D

   Yes...for lake fishing it might be perfect. On the river(Ohio) the current would most likely drag it...if it does move easily. Reels with a lighter click, like my Pro Challenger Jiggy, can sometimes roll down stream without a really heavy sinker. When current is really heavy I like to use my old Silverbeach 99. That thing has the stiffest clicker in the universe. If the fish swims away hard enough to make that thing click...he's hooked!  :D
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: oc1 on March 26, 2020, 08:42:15 AM
Quote from: Decker on March 25, 2020, 05:47:41 AM
Quote from: oc1 on March 25, 2020, 05:23:44 AM
I magged mine and ran out of room under the hood.  It is just about there but needs a few more small wafers
-steve

How many you got in there, Steve?  What are you throwing?

Oops, sorry Joe.  Mine is a 146.  

(http://www.raingarden.us/snap/146a.jpg)

It has eight stacks, each 3/8 inch diameter and 1/4 inch high.

(http://www.raingarden.us/snap/146b.jpg)

The bottom wafer on each stack has a hole and is counter sunk. Small nuts and bolts attach them to the sideplate.

(http://www.raingarden.us/snap/146c.jpg)

(http://www.raingarden.us/snap/146d.jpg)

I'm tuning it to throw 1.5 ounce because that is the sweet spot for the rod.  With more lure weight it may need less magnets.

(http://www.raingarden.us/snap/146e.jpg)

-steve
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: Decker on March 26, 2020, 03:19:53 PM
Quote from: oc1 on March 26, 2020, 08:42:15 AM
Quote from: Decker on March 25, 2020, 05:47:41 AM
Quote from: oc1 on March 25, 2020, 05:23:44 AM
I magged mine and ran out of room under the hood.  It is just about there but needs a few more small wafers
-steve

How many you got in there, Steve?  What are you throwing?

Oops, sorry Joe.  Mine is a 146.  

It has eight stacks, each 3/8 inch diameter and 1/4 inch high.


The bottom wafer on each stack has a hole and is counter sunk. Small nuts and bolts attach them to the sideplate.

I'm tuning it to throw 1.5 ounce because that is the sweet spot for the rod.  With more lure weight it may need less magnets.

-steve


That's a lot of magnets.  I've never tried to throw anything that light with a Squidder.  How far are you trying to throw it?

Maybe the startup inertia of the spool is too much.  I don't think there is a plastic spool for the 146, but wonder if a 180 with a plastic spool might do a better job.

Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: Rancanfish on March 26, 2020, 04:17:15 PM
Mr. Decker, Sir,  my older red 146 definitely has a plastic spool.
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: jon_elc on March 26, 2020, 05:02:01 PM
steve,  I would guess you could dremel these ribs a bit and add 2 more washers.   
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: jon_elc on March 26, 2020, 05:16:23 PM
also, I am surprised that your magnets are so close to the edge of the ring, what spool are you using?

because i'm trying to measure the expected clearance, i'm getting about 8mm for inside the plate to the edge of the ring, and then my spool rib/fin is about 3.5mm into that space.  my magnets are 2mm tall, so i'm looking for washers to epoxy inside for the magnets

edit:  mine is a 145
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: foakes on March 26, 2020, 05:26:50 PM
Quote from: jon_elc on March 26, 2020, 05:16:23 PM
also, I am surprised that your magnets are so close to the edge of the ring, what spool are you using?

Likely the elusive dremelized finless plastizoid -- AKA, steve can make anything with a shard of coconut shell and some bamboo strips.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: mo65 on March 26, 2020, 05:31:31 PM
Quote from: foakes on March 26, 2020, 05:26:50 PM
Steve can make anything with a shard of coconut shell and some bamboo strips.

   This is true...had Steve been aboard the Minnow instead of the professor...they'd been off that island in 15 minutes! 8)
Title: Re: Squidder 145 spool
Post by: Decker on March 26, 2020, 06:31:39 PM
Quote from: mo65 on March 26, 2020, 05:31:31 PM
Quote from: foakes on March 26, 2020, 05:26:50 PM
Steve can make anything with a shard of coconut shell and some bamboo strips.

   This is true...had Steve been aboard the Minnow instead of the professor...they'd been off that island in 15 minutes! 8)

Yup, he even makes his own fishing line, for real.