Starry Flounder
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I could have sworn it was going to be a Halibut, it was almost as big and put up such a fuss, but as soon as I saw the black and gold fins I knew it wasn't.
When I was a kid in the 70's they were still somewhat plentiful on the coast and in the bay, but for decades they've been sparse, and catches are rare. Normally I wouldn't even take one, and would release it, but this guy was bleeding and didn't have much of a chance survival, so I just enjoyed a top notch seafood that I hadn't had for a very long time.
-Shimano Trevala 'S' rod
-Lews Tournament pro reel
-Berkeley PowerWorms - Motor Oil
Yes, that's a nice one, Pretty fun on lite tackle from the beach. Good mild white meat. 🎣😊
In the late 70s we a couple of drought years in Cali... we saw salt water intrusion here in the San Joaquin river. We would catch those flounder as a by catch while Sturgeon fishing with grass Shrimp. Not much of a fuss on the heavier gear we were using but very tasty in deed... that one pictured is a big one compared th the ones we were catching..
Cool
Starry, Starry night...
Tony!!
Very Nice Catch!!!
The stripes on the fins and tail are very distinctive!!
Question, how do you fillet it???
And a quick saute in a hot pan like Sole???
Wayne
We still catch them here but they were quite common when I lived in Prince Rupert and we would get some big ones while fishing for butts. I also used to catch them off of the dock/ log booms when I was a kid. While they can be tasty they can also have a strong iodine taste sometimes. You can't tell til you cook them; so I usually let them go. They are scrappy. Nice fish and they are pretty. Its obvious why they are also called emery wheels.
EP: You fillet them same as any flat fish or you can fillet into 4 fillets like halibut. Cook like any sole/ flatfish species.
Cheers:
Todd
Quote from: El Pescador on September 09, 2021, 02:48:36 PM
Starry, Starry night...
Tony!!
Very Nice Catch!!!
The stripes on the fins and tail are very distinctive!!
Question, how do you fillet it???
And a quick saute in a hot pan like Sole???
Wayne
Fillet it just like any other flatfish, pretty easy, and yes you can cook like sole cause it has a similar texture. This one was big and the fillets were thick so breadcrumbs and a pan fry was the ticket. They have more flavor to me than sole, so you can do more with them.
Quote from: Hardy Boy on September 09, 2021, 03:52:10 PM
While they can be tasty they can also have a strong iodine taste sometimes.
When caught close to shore they can have that, it's why I won't take anything from inside the Bay at this point. This one was caught about 3 miles outside of the GG bridge, clean as a whistle.
.... also, bleeding them helps.
Great job,,,,, ;D
That's a cool Flounder. All we have are Gulf Flounder and Southern Flounder.
Keith
If you cut some shin off the belly that's really good bait for more,,,,,,, ;D
The closest I ever came to something like that was catching sole with a pitchfork as a kid late 60's
Pretty fish!
Nice fish, Tony! Really nice coloring. We don't get them here- and we only get two weeks of flounder season period, in NC- for Summer and Southern's.
nice fish congrats. those trevala S rods are thin as Bass rods.
i just modified a Bass rod with nice backbone but with really short reargrip and added a longer butt, I just made it with a standard size split grip, the idea is to use it as light rod from the shore for spotted bay bass and triggers. no flounders, halibuts near here.
it will be paired with a vintage shimano bantam 2000GT, abu garcia revo sx or a daiwa airD coastal 100 HSA but it still needs a full bearing kit
I have a question. Holding the butt of the rod horizontal will give you the strongest way to deadlift something as the bend is 90 degr.
If you keep holding the rod in that position and add more weight slowly, it will start to flex more towards the rear using more of the rods backbone and therefore in theory bearing more weight until it becomes too much and breaks.
Is there an obvious spot where the rod would break if the blank is perfectly made and has no weaker or unevenly thin wall areas?
My thinking is that it will break somewhere at the rear, near the holders front hand in this case? I have repaired many broken rods, nearly all broken in the front half probably as a result of high sticking.
Something for the engineers or scientists.
Quote from: steelfish on September 10, 2021, 06:27:16 PM
nice fish congrats. those trevala S rods are thin as Bass rods.
i just modified a Bass rod with nice backbone but with really short reargrip and added a longer butt, I just made it with a standard size split grip, the idea is to use it as light rod from the shore for spotted bay bass and triggers. no flounders, halibuts near here.
it will be paired with a vintage shimano bantam 2000GT, abu garcia revo sx or a daiwa airD coastal 100 HSA but it still needs a full bearing kit
Nice mod, should do the trick. The only difference is Trevala 'S' has the carbon wrap that gives that extra resiliency to fight bigger fish.
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It was the precursor to the slow pitch rods I use for jigging, which are even thinner than the Trevala, and even stronger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwA6TCsJh14
Quote from: Cor on September 10, 2021, 07:18:30 PM
I have a question. Holding the butt of the rod horizontal will give you the strongest way to deadlift something as the bend is 90 degr.
If you keep holding the rod in that position and add more weight slowly, it will start to flex more towards the rear using more of the rods backbone and therefore in theory bearing more weight until it becomes too much and breaks.
Is there an obvious spot where the rod would break if the blank is perfectly made and has no weaker or unevenly thin wall areas?
My thinking is that it will break somewhere at the rear, near the holders front hand in this case? I have repaired many broken rods, nearly all broken in the front half probably as a result of high sticking.
Something for the engineers or scientists.
Straight pull with no bend in the rod gives you the least leverage working against you, and won't break the rod because it is not being bent- and therefore the most dead-lift capacity. Bends past 90 degrees concentrate the load on a small section of blank toward the tip, and don't provide much purpose when fishing- hence the 90 degree rule. But even below 90 degrees, less bend is always more powerful.
If you clamp the rod horizontally to a work bench at the reel seat, hang a line from the reel thorough the tip and keep adding weight to the end of the line, you should see that start of the curve the 90 degree bend keeps moving toward the butt, as you noted. In my experience, at the point of overload, you can feel the butt bend as if it no longer has increasing progression of stiffness. This is where bad things will happen, as the load will start concentrate at the apex of a decreasing diameter curve. There will always be an apex in a bend, and this is where the load will concentrate and the breakage should occur.
The specif location of the apex will vary depending on rod angle, blank construction, and guide style/location.
The few non-highstick, genuine overload rod deaths that I have witnessed had the apex/breakage spot about a foot and a half above the reel seat. Bendy rods can break at the stiff spot where the blank meets the reel seat.
Fly rods spread the load a bit more uniformly along the bottom 70-80% of the blank, and are stiff with pretty tiny wall thickness. I have seen a couple overloaded fly rods blow up in several places at the same time. Not sure why it happens this way. The failure at one spot must somehow shock the next spot in line. It looks and sounds like a single break, but I would wager that it is a series. I start sweating when I can feel the blank bending the cork grip...
-j
Quote from: jurelometer on September 11, 2021, 01:52:41 AM
Quote from: Cor on September 10, 2021, 07:18:30 PM
I start sweating when I can feel the blank bending the cork grip...
-j
That's interesting, I don't feel I'm fishing until I feel the rod flexing under the seat; but I'm not thrilled unless the tip touche the but!
Takes all kinds.
The Man
Quote from: the rockfish ninja on September 10, 2021, 11:18:48 PM
Nice mod, should do the trick. The only difference is Trevala 'S' has the carbon wrap that gives that extra resiliency to fight bigger fish.
(https://i.ibb.co/PF2TbSD/g-spiralx-f576d42a-170f-45cd-bfb0-f58ad38b78c5-488x488.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
It was the precursor to the slow pitch rods I use for jigging, which are even thinner than the Trevala, and even stronger.
yep, those S trevala will handle a bigger fish than a Bassrod of course, those rods were made with jiggin in saltwater in mind with new tech, etc, etc, I have seen those trevala S rods and are nothing alike their siblings the trevala butterfly jigging rods, I just happen to have a Bassrod with a good shape blank with missing guides and short handle and considering some bass rods can handle a 10# LMB so, sure this one can handle a 6-8# Spanish mack or any other fish in that average weight as long you dont want to lift it and bounced to the boat.
altho, some spanish macks can get too big here for a Bassrod
the ones I have in the 1st pic, were caught casting 2oz lure with a regular trevala XXH and calcutta 400TE and felt like a good setup, with those fish I never felt I was overgunned