I got this 275 reel for under $50 shipped to me, it was is very bad shape and with parts missing.
(https://i.imgur.com/BgW2JLy.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/X46L03I.jpg)
The seller mentioned both gears worked, I'm not sure how he could tell, I couldn't get the handle to turn.
(https://i.imgur.com/xn4FGmY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/w091yAG.jpg)
At times you will try everything you could possibly try and the part will still not budge
(https://i.imgur.com/Zip5gBv.jpg)
This one needed a careful operation, my goal was not to damage the gear and got lucky
(https://i.imgur.com/KD6OoPV.jpg)
The other parts that I've destroyed I could deal with, those I can get anywhere.
I wanted to post this, I tried soaking, my 1 ton press, Fred's pin and hummer, heat and vinegar, nothing worked.
No matter how much of an attempt you make, at times it is still never enough.
Sal
Man, Sal, that really sucks! Fred will have a spare handle, though.
Sal,
....so, you tried all those methods and they didn't work huh?!...that must have been when you decided to try your 8lb sledgehammer ;D ;)...
Seriously, glad you got that crank off without hurting anything else!
Brett
It was a delicate operation Tom and Brett ;D, did not want to loose that gear. The crank nut was also frozen, I had to spilt that as well...as you can see on the pic above.
With the exception of the gears and the crank side plate, I believe I could borrow parts from the 270, all I would need to do is to drill 2 additional holes.
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 07, 2018, 11:06:46 PM
It was a delicate operation Tom and Brett ;D, did not want to loose that gear. The crank nut was also frozen, I had to spilt that as well...as you can see on the pic above.
With the exception of the gears and the crank side plate, I believe I could borrow parts from the 270, all I would need to do is to drill 2 additional holes.
Sal
Sal,
I've got a 270 to donate to your cause.
I'll get it in the mail tomorrow.
Chad, that is so kind of you, but I already have 6 in great shape that I could borrow. Honestly though, I would like to use as many parts from this reel as I could, just as personal satisfaction ;D
Thanks again Chad.
Sal
No Problem Sal :)
Can't wait to see the rebuild on this!
I was eyeballin' that one Sal.
It looked like it had been tampered with, by looking at the screws.
I believe it came from Italy.
No Daron, this one came from California.
The seller wasn't hiding anything he put it up for $60 I believe,
I aske if I could have it for $40 plus $5 towards shipping and he agreed.
We know how rare these are, grabbing a few parts from it, it will be well worth the money.
Sali
It was definitely a bargain.
I get on the hunt for a few days, and then I forget.
I'm wondering if my buddy Doc could make us something similar so we could make the 706 a 2 speed reel. :)
Nothing complicated on these gears, well now that I've seen what they did. I couldn't believe how simple of a design it is and how flawless it works. They knew what they were doing...
Sal
That would be a really cool conversion kit Sal!
Well, maybe. I admit to being a little intrigued by the DAM two speed reels. Not particularly familiar with the 706 though.
I do have an ABU 999 three speed reel. That isn't all too complicated either i guess... when you see how it is done.
Part of the fun though, is that these reels were made by their respective one-and-only. Making spin-offs from something else just isn't the same, is it?
.
Quote from: Robert Janssen on February 09, 2018, 04:20:32 AM
Well, maybe. I admit to being a little intrigued by the DAM two speed reels. Not particularly familiar with the 706 though.
I do have an ABU 999 three speed reel. That isn't all too complicated either i guess... when you see how it is done.
Part of the fun though, is that these reels were made by their respective one-and-only. Making spin-offs from something else just isn't the same, is it?
.
Sooo if your hinting at at the possibilty you might be up for doing something regarding the Quick 275 2 speed consider me very interested. I've desired for some time to get my hands on one these reels to have a look for myself but life & other things always seem to happen... Jeff
There were other multi speed spinning reels manufactured, too. To name a couple, the Zangi 3V (Italy) is the same as the ABU 999, Benora (Swiss) made both a med & large size 2 speed and Sup-Matic (French- that was also sold by South Bend) made a couple different medium size 2 speed reels, including a field conversion kit for one of their single speed models. Benora was more than likely the first in the early '50s, with Sup-Matic second and 3V/999 third in the late '50s. The Dam 275 didn't come along until the early '60s.
Quote from: Robert Janssen on February 09, 2018, 04:20:32 AM
Well, maybe. I admit to being a little intrigued by the DAM two speed reels. Not particularly familiar with the 706 though.
I do have an ABU 999 three speed reel. That isn't all too complicated either i guess... when you see how it is done.
Part of the fun though, is that these reels were made by their respective one-and-only. Making spin-offs from something else just isn't the same, is it?
.
Doc, I'm glad I got your attention :). I should rephrase my comment, when I said these are not complicated, well maybe to someone as you.
What I meant was that they were able to make it so simple and yet very effective. I give them a lot of credit for what they were able to do.
You are correct on your last comment.
Thank you for always chiming in when I mention your name, it is very much appreciated. I always like to hear what your thoughts are.
Sal
Quote from: Midway Tommy on February 09, 2018, 06:17:39 AM
There were other multi speed spinning reels manufactured, too. To name a couple, the Zangi 3V (Italy) is the same as the ABU 999, Benora (Swiss) made both a med & large size 2 speed and Sup-Matic (French- that was also sold by South Bend) made a couple different medium size 2 speed reels, including a field conversion kit for one of their single speed models. Benora was more than likely the first in the early '50s, with Sup-Matic second and 3V/999 third in the late '50s. The Dam 275 didn't come along until the early '60s.
Thanks for the info Tom.
There was a Daiwa 2 speed on line, but he was asking too much, well to me anyway. The seller was accepting offers, I made him a reasonable one and it bounced right back to me :).
I do not see that reel anymore, maybe he sold it :-\
Best,
Sal
Ouch.
I looked at that parts spread photo until falling asleep at the computer and still can't figure out how it works. Put me out of my misery Sal.
Also, a few days ago I said that spinners with handles that collapse for storage cause problems later in life and a more solid connection is better. Tommy and Riverrat disagreed. They win.
-steve
Quote from: oc1 on February 09, 2018, 08:37:06 PM
Ouch.
I looked at that parts spread photo until falling asleep at the computer and still can't figure out how it works. Put me out of my misery Sal.
Also, a few days ago I said that spinners with handles that collapse for storage cause problems later in life and a more solid connection is better. Tommy and Riverrat disagreed. They win.
-steve
Sorry Sal, but that's really funny, Steve. :D
Quote from: oc1 on February 09, 2018, 08:37:06 PM
Ouch.
Also, a few days ago I said that spinners with handles that collapse for storage cause problems later in life and a more solid connection is better. Tommy and Riverrat disagreed. They win.
-steve
Oh no.... I agreed with you I just havent as of yet seen any issue with this on the Quick reels of this vintage.
Quote from: oc1 on February 09, 2018, 08:37:06 PM
Ouch.
I looked at that parts spread photo until falling asleep at the computer and still can't figure out how it works. Put me out of my misery Sal.
Also, a few days ago I said that spinners with handles that collapse for storage cause problems later in life and a more solid connection is better. Tommy and Riverrat disagreed. They win.
-steve
Steve, first off...don't ever tell another man you fell asleep looking at his photos ::);D.
It is very simple, but keep in mind this reel has parts missing.
Here are the high and low gears
(https://i.imgur.com/D5ORX6b.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hs1Ayzc.jpg)
Sorry, I do not have the parts list, so I will call them as I see them.
The post with the pinned tooth on a spring slides in the shaft holding the gears. Pushing that post down will make the tooth engage with the slower gear on one of the four notches you see, pulling on it will engage with the faster gear.
The drive gear will of course always rotate at one speed as you turn the handle
(https://i.imgur.com/r2nlpgz.jpg)
Here is a better pic of the clutch assembly...very similar to a transmission on a car., it also has an additional gear at the bottom for the anti reverse .
(https://i.imgur.com/Q9oVnOq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CTPNr3w.jpg)
so, turning the handle as you would on any other spinner, you have the added bonus of getting low and high gear just by pushing or pulling on that red knob.
This is a very effective design, we should try to make them possible for some of our favorite spinners.
I really like the Dam Quick reels, but as you've mentioned, I believe that pin on the handle isn't such a great idea.
Maybe one of the reason Penn uses a different design.
Of course I'm dealing with reels that have been neglected, I'm sure with proper care, that pin would not be a problem.
By the way, Fred might have the schematics and a more detailed explanation on these.
Sal
Sal, thanks posting those pics... Jeff
Not a problem Jeff.
Very interesting reel. BTW, what are the two gear ratios for this beast?
Quote from: festus on February 10, 2018, 02:33:45 AM
Very interesting reel. BTW, what are the two gear ratios for this beast?
Don't have specs, but counting the rotation, I'll say 3.8:1 in High and 2:1 in low.
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 10, 2018, 11:01:40 AM
Quote from: festus on February 10, 2018, 02:33:45 AM
Very interesting reel. BTW, what are the two gear ratios for this beast?
Don't have specs, but counting the rotation, I'll say 3.8:1 in High and 2:1 in low.
No specs here, either, but I get 2.25:1 & 4.1:1. :)
Quote from: Midway Tommy on February 10, 2018, 05:44:19 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 10, 2018, 11:01:40 AM
Quote from: festus on February 10, 2018, 02:33:45 AM
Very interesting reel. BTW, what are the two gear ratios for this beast?
Don't have specs, but counting the rotation, I'll say 3.8:1 in High and 2:1 in low.
No specs here, either, but I get 2.25:1 & 4.1:1. :)
You are correct Tom, I just double checked and was of 2" on the rotation with the rotor. ;D You adding that .1 in there tells me you read it somewhere, unless you have a really steady hand ;D...Thank Tom!
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 10, 2018, 06:28:25 PM
Quote from: Midway Tommy on February 10, 2018, 05:44:19 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on February 10, 2018, 11:01:40 AM
Quote from: festus on February 10, 2018, 02:33:45 AM
Very interesting reel. BTW, what are the two gear ratios for this beast?
Don't have specs, but counting the rotation, I'll say 3.8:1 in High and 2:1 in low.
No specs here, either, but I get 2.25:1 & 4.1:1. :)
You are correct Tom, I just double checked and was of 2" on the rotation with the rotor. ;D You adding that .1 in there tells me you read it somewhere, unless you have a really steady hand ;D...Thank Tom!
Steady hand. ;) It made it just past 4 but not that close to 4.25. I have to admit, though, the Sup-Matic high speed is 4.1:1 so it made sense on my count. :D There's a little play when it first shifts gears so I'd have to get the teeth meshed appropriately before I started the count.
Now those are really useful gear ranges for bait. Why in the world we don't see this offered on other 2 speed reels that are mid to smaller size is nuts.
But what people buy is what is made... Jeff
Chester was kind enough to post the schematic for the Quick Dam Super 275
http://alantani.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=24387.0;attach=48508
The gear ratio is listed above, along with some other information.
Low gear ratio is 1:2.5 and high gear ratio is 1:4.5
Sal