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General Maintenance Tips => General Questions and Trouble Shooting => Topic started by: DRAHandyman on July 29, 2014, 04:54:56 PM

Title: Penn JigMaster Screw sizing?
Post by: DRAHandyman on July 29, 2014, 04:54:56 PM
I have an older Penn Jig-master 500 that I have lost the "Take apart thumb screw" (part number 129-200) from.  I can find these screws on line but with cost of post/handling it is not worth getting one.  A normal stainless  machine screw would work as a replacement as I don't intend to take this reel apart regularly!  Unfortunately I just cannot find the correct thread size for this screw at my local OSH hardware store.
I have tried the common 4-36, 6-32 and 3.5mm and 4 mm screws, none fit.

Does anyone know what the thread size is?  It is the same as the screws that are in the spacers on the reel.

Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Penn JigMaster Screw sizing?
Post by: foakes on July 29, 2014, 06:57:44 PM
Hi DRA --

If you can't find what you need -- I could send you the proper take apart thumb screw assembly.

It includes a spring, thumb screw, and threaded spring keeper.

If interested, just PM your address.

You can reimburse me a couple of bucks for the postage, if this would work for you.

Best,

Fred


(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/imagejpg1_zps1059b066.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/imagejpg1_zps1059b066.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Penn JigMaster Screw sizing?
Post by: franky on July 29, 2014, 07:25:36 PM
Wow Fred,

I like that machine you got there.  ;)

It looks kinda old style, but its neat that you can just slide a paper in there and the image will be exploded on the big screen! As we get older, those things are priceless!  :)
Title: Re: Penn JigMaster Screw sizing?
Post by: Alto Mare on July 29, 2014, 08:49:51 PM
Quote from: foakes on July 29, 2014, 06:57:44 PM
Hi DRA --

If you can't find what you need -- I could send you the proper take apart thumb screw assembly.

It includes a spring, thumb screw, and threaded spring keeper.

If interested, just PM your address.

You can reimburse me a couple of bucks for the postage, if this would work for you.

Best,

Fred


(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/imagejpg1_zps1059b066.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/imagejpg1_zps1059b066.jpg.html)

Ok Fred, where can I get one of those, I could really use it. Amazing how clear it is.
Title: Re: Penn JigMaster Screw sizing?
Post by: foakes on July 29, 2014, 09:53:18 PM
Hi Sal --

The brand is Enhanced Vision -- it is a Merlin.

They are kind of expensive new -- but I would look on Craigslist or eBay for a good late model used one.

Another source would be a local vision specialist company -- they get these as used units all of the time -- and generally want to get rid of them as soon as possible.  They are able to sell the new ones for a lot of $$$ since usually insurance or Medicare will help out with the purchase of these.

Mine is fairly late model, as it also connects to a computer to take a snapshot, print it out, or email.

Probably not something I need now, but it is really handy, and I hope to be able to keep working on reels for a long, long time to come...

My wife is a vision teacher for our local school district -- so she knows about these things.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Penn JigMaster Screw sizing?
Post by: Mattman NZ on July 29, 2014, 09:55:24 PM
Same as the post screws i think 5-40 unc  or 1/8 X 40 Tpi .
all the best
Mat....
Title: Re: Penn JigMaster Screw sizing?
Post by: Alto Mare on July 29, 2014, 11:23:09 PM
Quote from: foakes on July 29, 2014, 09:53:18 PM
Hi Sal --

The brand is Enhanced Vision -- it is a Merlin.

They are kind of expensive new -- but I would look on Craigslist or eBay for a good late model used one.

Another source would be a local vision specialist company -- they get these as used units all of the time -- and generally want to get rid of them as soon as possible.  They are able to sell the new ones for a lot of $$$ since usually insurance or Medicare will help out with the purchase of these.

Mine is fairly late model, as it also connects to a computer to take a snapshot, print it out, or email.

Probably not something I need now, but it is really handy, and I hope to be able to keep working on reels for a long, long time to come...

My wife is a vision teacher for our local school district -- so she knows about these things.

Best,

Fred
Thanks for the info Fred, you're right, they're not cheap. I've seen some from $1500 to $200, I'll need to hunt one down, it would really help.
Title: Re: Penn JigMaster Screw sizing?
Post by: Marcq on July 29, 2014, 11:28:19 PM
Quote from: foakes on July 29, 2014, 06:57:44 PM
Hi DRA --

If you can't find what you need -- I could send you the proper take apart thumb screw assembly.

It includes a spring, thumb screw, and threaded spring keeper.

If interested, just PM your address.

You can reimburse me a couple of bucks for the postage, if this would work for you.

Best,

Fred


(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/imagejpg1_zps1059b066.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/imagejpg1_zps1059b066.jpg.html)


Looks like you are well setup Fred  8), need to do a clean up in my shop  ::)

Marc..
Title: Re: Penn JigMaster Screw sizing?
Post by: Alto Mare on July 29, 2014, 11:35:12 PM
Sorry for pulling away from your question Handyman, I can't tell you the size but the 5-40 is not it. It is, but the thread pitch is different.
Title: Re: Penn JigMaster Screw sizing?
Post by: Mattman NZ on July 30, 2014, 12:41:41 AM
I've used the std 5-40 thread in two of my jigmasters for over ten years and had no probs and the difference between 5-40 2a & 5-40 3a is very small .0008 in dia. I've used the std 5-40 because thats all i could get and why Penn used a slightly different pitch is beyond me .lol. ;D

(http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad223/mattman1965/5-402aand3a_zps8caf8b06.jpg) (http://s938.photobucket.com/user/mattman1965/media/5-402aand3a_zps8caf8b06.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Penn JigMaster Screw sizing?
Post by: Alto Mare on July 30, 2014, 12:55:37 AM
Matt, I'm not really good with the technical part ,but here is an easier and most assuring way
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/007_zps6c62d01a.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/007_zps6c62d01a.jpg.html)
The 5-40 on the right screws all the way  on a stock frame post, the thumb screw on the left doesn't :-\.

Handyman, send Fred a PM and you're set.
Title: Re: Penn JigMaster Screw sizing?
Post by: Alto Mare on July 30, 2014, 01:06:46 AM
Matt, I owe you an apology. I just tried the 5-40 on the actual jigmaster's ring and it works, a little tight but definitely works.
Sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: Penn JigMaster Screw sizing?
Post by: Mattman NZ on July 30, 2014, 01:50:53 AM
All good Sal - no apology needed mate lol . I've just tried another 5-40 screw in another one of my 500s and its was a firm fit but not tight - you could put it down to age and wear I suppose .
Title: Re: Penn JigMaster Screw sizing?
Post by: foakes on July 30, 2014, 02:19:21 AM
OK, Dave --

The parts will be in the mail to you tomorrow.

Best Regards,

Fred
Title: Re: Penn JigMaster Screw sizing?
Post by: foakes on July 30, 2014, 09:10:36 PM
In the mail, Dave --

Should be there Friday -- no signature required.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Penn JigMaster Screw sizing?
Post by: Alto Mare on July 30, 2014, 09:20:17 PM
Very nice of you Fred ;).