I recently purchased the Dogfight 7000h which as you probably know is one of the most expensive spin reels on today's market, so had big expectations. However the first decent fish I caught on it was a 109kg striped marlin & the drag was very sticky. I did land the fish as you can see from my avatar & have since had the drag fully serviced but still don't know what the cause was which is bugging me a bit.
Anyone have a similar experience or opinion on what may have been the problem?
Should add I think the reel had been sitting in the cabinet in the shop for quite a while certainly more than one year is this a contributing factor?
Cheers Pete
Having sat so long a pre service might have been good. How much drag did you have set? Also, did having it service correct the issue?
The drag washers may need to be cleaned and re-greased. Clean the drag washers by rubbing with a clean dust free cloth then reapplying new drag grease and reassemble the drag system.
Quote from: Bryan Young on June 16, 2015, 08:12:34 AM
The drag washers may need to be cleaned and re-greased. Clean the drag washers by rubbing with a clean dust free cloth then reapplying new drag grease and reassemble the drag system.
Hi Bryan, that's exactly what we ended up doing. I haven't fished the reel since the drag service but we did pull some line off in the shop & it felt 100% better. Need to go get me a big Kingy attached to test it I guess. :)
Thanks for your response.
Pete
Hi Pete, there is something more to do than to grease the cf washers only.
The attached pics are taken from a brand new reel of a fishing friend after two weeks fishing in Asia.
Recommend to check the gear, side covers etc. if proper greased.
Check the bail arms and rotor for to much play.
The reel was send back to Daiwa. They fixed everything free of charge. e.g. installed new shorter pinion (the original was too long....).
That's very nice Wolli.
Hi Wolli, I have just sent the reel back to Diawa NZ as the spool rotation was also very stiff from new & even after the store lubed the shaft it still is overly tight in my opinion.
Interestingly the store is suggesting this is just the way they are but I'm truly not happy with it but also don't have much faith that Diawa will admit fault.
Overall it's been a disappointing experience I just hope the mag seals are all ok cause that will be the last straw.
Will update here what Diawa have to say when I get it back.
Cheers Pete
Great fish though Pete...
Regards
Mark
Quote from: MFB on June 24, 2015, 06:03:03 AM
Great fish though Pete...
Regards
Mark
Hi Mark, yeah that was a very pleasant bi catch as we were live baiting for Kingfish.
One of my crew mates had just landed a good King 27kg which spewd up a massive mackerel when it hit the deck so as we reset I got the biggest livie we had in the tank & deployed it when the skipper said go.
It didn't get very far! At 20m everything went slack put the bail arm over but nothing there so let it go again at 40m same thing all went slack put bail arm over again & booooooom hooked up.
Fish went aerial & got tail wrapped which the skipper sorted out by driving twice round to undo the wrap about an hour latter my first marlin hit the deck.
109kg Striped Marlin
Dogfight 7000h spooled with 100lb Gosen braid
Synit Razor Black Label
Charter was Epic Adventures NZ
Skipper was Owen
What rod were you using? And that is a crazy solid catch man
Awesome, hope Daiwa resolve the problem for you. If you want to go old school I have a Penn 8500SS with 850 bronze gears fitted to it that I'm thinking about selling has had the drag upgrade but not the ratchet one like my 7500SS.
Regards
Mark
I wouldn't worry about it....bone dry drags stored with perhaps a touch of drag pressure will get lumpy. Any reel's would.
A good workout and well greased and trouble no more. Be sure to store with the drags backed off.
Quote from: fIsHsTiiCkS on June 24, 2015, 08:16:11 AM
What rod were you using? And that is a crazy solid catch man
Synit Razar Black Label 400g PE6-10 spin created by CJ
Quote from: MFB on June 24, 2015, 09:05:37 AM
Awesome, hope Daiwa resolve the problem for you. If you want to go old school I have a Penn 8500SS with 850 bronze gears fitted to it that I'm thinking about selling has had the drag upgrade but not the ratchet one like my 7500SS.
Regards
Mark
Hey Mark I appreciate the offer mate but believe/hope that the Diawa NZ agent will sort these issues out.
Cheers Pete
Quote from: johndtuttle on June 24, 2015, 03:17:56 PM
I wouldn't worry about it....bone dry drags stored with perhaps a touch of drag pressure will get lumpy. Any reel's would.
A good workout and well greased and trouble no more. Be sure to store with the drags backed off.
i see an other problem with the teflon coated drag ratchet which can cause jerking drag. Would remove the teflon and replace with a metal washer in same thickness.
Quote from: Wolli on June 29, 2015, 01:22:37 PM
Quote from: johndtuttle on June 24, 2015, 03:17:56 PM
I wouldn't worry about it....bone dry drags stored with perhaps a touch of drag pressure will get lumpy. Any reel's would.
A good workout and well greased and trouble no more. Be sure to store with the drags backed off.
i see an other problem with the teflon coated drag ratchet which can cause jerking drag. Would remove the teflon and replace with a metal washer in same thickness.
There is nothing wrong with that teflon piece that I am aware of... The issue was an ungreased drag that had been stored under tension for over a year and then fished. It needs to be greased and then stored with the drag loosened. I have had reels with teflon washers work fine after 20 years of service.
Quote from: Wolli on June 16, 2015, 03:24:48 PM
Hi Pete, there is something more to do than to grease the cf washers only....
... e.g. installed new shorter pinion (the original was too long....).
Wow, looked at the pics, unbelievable for a reel in that price class. Must have been a very disgruntled worker on the assembly line! The pinion was too long??? :o
Quote from: nelz on June 29, 2015, 03:45:17 PM
Quote from: Wolli on June 16, 2015, 03:24:48 PM
Hi Pete, there is something more to do than to grease the cf washers only....
... e.g. installed new shorter pinion (the original was too long....).
Wow, looked at the pics, unbelievable for a reel in that price class. Must have been a very disgruntled worker on the assembly line! The pinion was too long??? :o
We are probably talking about a few thousandths of an inch or fraction of a millimeter. Typically the tolerance is such that they are slightly short and are shimmed to fit in this case, if it is the smallest bit too long it will cause rapid wear.
Quote from: Kiwi Pete on June 29, 2015, 10:10:51 AM
Quote from: MFB on June 24, 2015, 09:05:37 AM
Awesome, hope Daiwa resolve the problem for you. If you want to go old school I have a Penn 8500SS with 850 bronze gears fitted to it that I'm thinking about selling has had the drag upgrade but not the ratchet one like my 7500SS.
Regards
Mark
Hey Mark I appreciate the offer mate but believe/hope that the Diawa NZ agent will sort these issues out.
Cheers Pete
Hey Mark so update is Diawa replaced the 7000 with new 2015 Dogfight 8000. Happy days mate
That's hard not to like, can't wait to try out my "new" Thunnus. Have ordered the drag washers from Dawn
Regards
Mark