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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Newell Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: SoCalAngler on September 25, 2015, 11:21:03 PM

Title: Which One To Keep
Post by: SoCalAngler on September 25, 2015, 11:21:03 PM
Looks like I now have two 220's. Is one more sought after? Any thoughts would be great. Both have carbontex drags and are in very good shape.

(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag355/SoCalAngler1/IMG_0575_zpsdllfkwqz.jpg)

(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag355/SoCalAngler1/IMG_0576_zps3iyew0et.jpg)
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: Rancanfish on September 25, 2015, 11:30:53 PM
Well, I don't know the difference, and I'm too cheap to buy one just to find out, so...............

Keep the one with the phillips screws and send me the cute one with the red stripe handle.   ;D

I'm sure the Newell 'enthusiasts will' be along...

Edited:  We have a valued member here, 'Newell Nut' and I admire him and didn't want to chance offending him by saying the 'Newell Nuts' will be along.  I didn't think before posting that, sorry.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: SoCalAngler on September 25, 2015, 11:47:16 PM
I also have a line on a no letter 332 but don't know if I should pick it up. I won't fish it just flip it but I don't think there is enough money left in to make it worth it.

I do know a little about Newell's with the G' having the SS bearing cups and such. I also did replace the plastic clicker ring and clicker button with SS ones in the G.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: eguinn on September 25, 2015, 11:54:34 PM
    If you ever do have to replace bearings on that C series good luck, I've also seen those side plates crack. Plastic bearing caps are ####. My self, I will not buy 1.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: SoCalAngler on September 26, 2015, 12:21:27 AM
The bearings are the same size as the other 200 and 300 reels. And to me to crack a bearing cup would mean over tightening the bearing cup on the right side. I'm not trying to be critical of what your saying and thanks for your info.

EDIT: Sorry the other reel I was looking at was a 322 no letter not a 332.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: Alto Mare on September 26, 2015, 12:27:19 AM
Quote from: SoCalAngler on September 26, 2015, 12:21:27 AM
The bearings are the same size as the other 200 and 300 reels. And to me to crack a bearing cup would mean over tightening the bearing cup on the right side. I'm not trying to be critical of what your saying and thanks for your info.
I'm with you on that. You could crack the cup by having it too tight, those should hold up just fine....nice reels.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: MarkT on September 26, 2015, 01:18:38 AM
Any G over any POS C any day! C's were the poorest quality of all the Newells. In most respects the G's were the best series Newell made. Choose wisely!
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: Rancanfish on September 26, 2015, 01:22:01 AM
Quote from: MarkT on September 26, 2015, 01:18:38 AM
Any G over any POS C any day! C's were the poorest quality of all the Newells. In most respects the G's were the best series Newell made. Choose wisely!

Which one is which, just for rookie info here.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: SoCalAngler on September 26, 2015, 01:26:18 AM
As far as I can tell the only difference from the two is the sealed bearing cap on the left and plastic bearing cap on the right of the C. I did some mods to the G that I stated, click ring and click button but other than the bearing caps the stock reels are the same. Again not trying to be critical of anyone's info and please keep it coming.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: SoCalAngler on September 26, 2015, 01:29:15 AM
Quote from: Rancanfish on September 26, 2015, 01:22:01 AM
Quote from: MarkT on September 26, 2015, 01:18:38 AM
Any G over any POS C any day! C's were the poorest quality of all the Newells. In most respects the G's were the best series Newell made. Choose wisely!

Which one is which, just for rookie info here.

The first picture shows the lettering.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: bluefish69 on September 26, 2015, 01:34:44 AM
Take the "G" over the "C" if for no other reason is the bearing cups.  If it has a Graphite Spool you need a Graphite - Plastic Clicker Ring. Please don't mix & match.

There is Money in ALL 322 Newell's. I am always looking for a reasonable priced one.  CHEAP

Mike
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: Newell Nut on September 26, 2015, 01:53:25 AM
The first Gs had the SS Jack lever and SS clicker and had a metal sprocket on the left side for the SS clicker. Yours is the second edition G. Plastic jack lever knob and should be plastic clicker for the plastic sprocket on the spool. The handle also has a SS shaft inside the knob on the red letter ones. You will notice a SS washer on the handle and the C model has a plastic washer on the handle.
I prefer the first edition Gs.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: SoCalAngler on September 26, 2015, 01:55:41 AM
Quote from: bluefish69 on September 26, 2015, 01:34:44 AM
Take the "G" over the "C" if for no other reason is the bearing cups.  If it has a Graphite Spool you need a Graphite - Plastic Clicker Ring. Please don't mix & match.

There is Money in ALL 322 Newell's. I am always looking for a reasonable priced one.  CHEAP

Mike

Thanks bluefish,

The G 220 has a metal click gear on the spool in this reel thats why I switched out the click ring to a metal one that I had laying around. There should be no wear on the metal click ring and the spool's click gear. But, thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: SoCalAngler on September 26, 2015, 01:59:20 AM
Newellnut,

If you look at the G reel I did swap the click button to a SS one as well as the other changes....well the other two.(oops I should of said the other one, the ss click ring) Thanks for your input here.

Now I have to look around for a ss jack lever, time to dig through parts again....lol
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: SoCalAngler on September 26, 2015, 02:23:53 AM
Quote from: bluefish69 on September 26, 2015, 01:34:44 AM
Take the "G" over the "C" if for no other reason is the bearing cups.  If it has a Graphite Spool you need a Graphite - Plastic Clicker Ring. Please don't mix & match.

There is Money in ALL 322 Newell's. I am always looking for a reasonable priced one.  CHEAP

Mike

bf,

You have a PM.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: SoCalAngler on September 26, 2015, 03:03:59 AM
Oops I should of also stated the C has no reel clamp.

But the C model does have a better reel foot.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: MarkT on September 26, 2015, 03:29:31 AM
Again, any G over any C, or S for that matter. The C's had the poorest quality with the poorest SS parts. Tunacious's history of Newells is here re-posted by ez2cdave and stickied and you should make sure to check it out.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: bluefish69 on September 26, 2015, 03:34:18 AM
"S" series with Bearing Cups aren't to bad. I just received one today.

Mike
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: MarkT on September 26, 2015, 03:35:54 AM
Yeah, the later S models weren't too bad but I'd still take a G.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: SoCalAngler on September 26, 2015, 04:10:49 AM
Quote from: MarkT on September 26, 2015, 03:29:31 AM
Again, any G over any C, or S for that matter. The C's had the poorest quality with the poorest SS parts. Tunacious's history of Newells is here re-posted by ez2cdave and stickied and you should make sure to check it out.

Thanks Mark,

Do you know the lady in the pic on the thread you said for me to look at? I am almost 100% sure thats Beth from a tackle shop I use to work at, she did the books and such.

If I'm correct that pic was about 2 years before Carls passing. I loved talking to him about reels and life, he was truly a person I try to emulate is cretin ways.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: MarkT on September 26, 2015, 04:28:49 AM
Cretin ways? Or did you mean certain ways? Either might fit with Carl! 😀
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: Alto Mare on September 26, 2015, 04:56:03 AM
Quote from: MarkT on September 26, 2015, 04:28:49 AM
Cretin ways? Or did you mean certain ways? Either might fit with Carl! 😀
:D :D..there was nothing stupid about Carl.

Mark, if I were you, I would keep both. Give one to your son for his birthday ;), unless someone has already grabbed it.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: Shark Hunter on September 26, 2015, 05:17:33 AM
That is exactly what I did yesterday. I had two pristine 300H's in the box with the Alantani treatment I purchased from a member here. They had the old Hot Dog Handles. He loved it.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: SoCalAngler on September 26, 2015, 04:47:07 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on September 26, 2015, 05:17:33 AM
That is exactly what I did yesterday. I had two pristine 300H's in the box with the Alantani treatment I purchased from a member here. They had the old Hot Dog Handles. He loved it.


SH if you did not see this thread is about Newell reels. I'm just wondering why you think showing and telling us what you did with some Daiwa's helps in anyway. I'm not trying to flame you and think what you did was great but lets please try to stay on track.

I pretty much know what I'm going to do now and with all the input, it confirms my thoughts.

Thanks guys for your incite.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: Alto Mare on September 26, 2015, 04:56:39 PM
Mark, i personally don't see any harm in Shark Hunter's comment, he was simply reinforcing my comment above.
With that said, yes, it is always a good idea to stay on track, when possible.
Now back to your Newells, just make sure you let us know what you've decided to do with them ;D.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: russ1962 on September 27, 2015, 04:15:25 PM
I have a 1'st and 2'nd generation G220 and love them both.
It's very, very close, but I think I may like them just a little better than my P-series 220's. ;D
I don't own any C-series so I can't comment on those.
Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: Newell Nut on September 27, 2015, 07:12:14 PM
Quote from: SoCalAngler on September 26, 2015, 01:59:20 AM
Newellnut,

If you look at the G reel I did swap the click button to a SS one as well as the other changes....well the other two.(oops I should of said the other one, the ss click ring) Thanks for your input here.

Now I have to look around for a ss jack lever, time to dig through parts again....lol

I have not bought one of these yet but they have the knob replacement for the plastic jack at ulua junkies.
http://uluajunkies.com/assets/jack_ss_knob.jpg

Title: Re: Which One To Keep
Post by: SoCalAngler on September 28, 2015, 05:27:07 AM
NN,

Thanks for the heads up as I did not find one in my junk/parts pile. I don't think I will even go to the trouble of buying one. The G looks like the day it came out of the box and that's good enough for me to fish.

The C will find a new home.