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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Shimano Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Phishface on February 17, 2022, 08:56:46 PM

Title: Tranx 400 Failure.
Post by: Phishface on February 17, 2022, 08:56:46 PM
I'm stuck again, and I need your help.
After landing two fish of a lifetime at Cedros Island last August My Tranx 400 took a dump.
When I got back home and pulled it apart the bering under the drive shaft had been completely destroyed.
I bought a replacement and realized the outer race of the destroyed bearing is stuck in the frame, I can't get it to budge.
Have any of you ever experienced this? I'm afraid to go digging to aggressively to get it out, I don't want to damage a very expensive reel.

Please see pictures and thank you for always helping with your wisdom and advise.
Title: Re: Tranx 400 Failure.
Post by: Cor on February 18, 2022, 05:46:45 AM
My experience is that the bearing under the drive shaft is the most vulnerable  of all the bearings, which also applies to reels from different manufacturers.

Unfortunately I don't remember one that was so stuck that I could not remove it, but am sure it can happen.

Search this site, there are many threads on stuck bearings, like this one    https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=28503.0

Good luck
Title: Re: Tranx 400 Failure.
Post by: oc1 on February 18, 2022, 06:38:56 AM
The last resort after everything else fails is to use a Dremel or Foredom with 3/32 inch carbide bur to cut a slot in the race.
Title: Re: Tranx 400 Failure.
Post by: ReelClean on February 18, 2022, 07:20:49 AM
Try hitting it with penetrating oil and sticking it in the deep freeze for a day or two, might shrink enough to move?  I suspect it will come eventually, I find my patience is usually rewarded.
cheers
Steve
Title: Re: Tranx 400 Failure.
Post by: oldmanjoe on February 18, 2022, 12:19:58 PM
  I would try two common head  nails or paint can openers and use them like a lady slipper pry bar .
Title: Re: Tranx 400 Failure.
Post by: philaroman on February 18, 2022, 05:48:53 PM
Quote from: oc1 on February 18, 2022, 06:38:56 AM
The last resort after everything else fails is to use a Dremel or Foredom with 3/32 inch carbide bur to cut a slot in the race.

for that last resort, you can also use a diamond-dust bit,
but don't cut all the way through the steel, or you'll likely damage the alloy frame
better off cutting several slots, part of the way & the race should "release" or break apart

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/dremel/7150/9697150?utm_adgroup=&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping_DK%2BSupplier_Other&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_id=bi_cmp-384720322_adg-1301822093609990_ad-81363949567673_pla-4584963495352066_dev-c_ext-_prd-9697150&msclkid=5a55baf38b3312d1d957d8fc575a7d76 (https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/dremel/7150/9697150?utm_adgroup=&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping_DK%2BSupplier_Other&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_id=bi_cmp-384720322_adg-1301822093609990_ad-81363949567673_pla-4584963495352066_dev-c_ext-_prd-9697150&msclkid=5a55baf38b3312d1d957d8fc575a7d76)

I only have the bigger one on the right & it's my favorite Dremel bit
Title: Re: Tranx 400 Failure.
Post by: Phishface on February 18, 2022, 06:09:22 PM
Thank you all for the great advise, This forum always comes thru and I will be trying all of these excellent suggestions to get this bearing race out. I love this reel and need it back in working order before the season starts up again.

You guys are the best!
Title: Re: Tranx 400 Failure.
Post by: MarkT on February 18, 2022, 10:31:21 PM
I use a box nail and cut part of the head away and hold it with some visegrips.
Title: Re: Tranx 400 Failure.
Post by: Phishface on February 21, 2022, 07:59:05 PM
Thank you all for your suggestions, thought I'd post the result. I used oil to loosen the race and used MarkT's suggestion. I ground two nails and put them in vice grip to pull the busted outer race out of the frame. Thank you MarkT, Man did I fret about how to get that thing out and tried prying it out so many different ways.

Thank you all again.

Jerome.
Title: Re: Tranx 400 Failure.
Post by: Dominick on February 21, 2022, 09:09:47 PM
Excellent.  Dominick
Title: Re: Tranx 400 Failure.
Post by: Donnyboat on February 22, 2022, 12:04:53 AM
Thanks for showing us, could help many of us, cheers Don.