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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn 99/Jigmaster/SurfMaster/Squidder Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: r77toy on December 21, 2015, 05:42:18 AM

Title: What is this?
Post by: r77toy on December 21, 2015, 05:42:18 AM
What is the thing replacing the #40-60 Side Bearing?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-PENN-Jigmaster-No-500-Green-Handle-Conventional-Fishing-Reel-/331737422907?hash=item4d3d175c3b:g:Dk0AAOSw~otWd1VD
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Tightlines667 on December 21, 2015, 05:50:13 AM
Why that appears to be an 'A-Square Fluid Hub' antibacklash device..

of course...

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12463.30

This same question was just asked not too long ago.  

They were manufactured in MA, sold in the 1950's and were available for Penn and Ocean City reels.
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: r77toy on December 21, 2015, 06:17:42 AM
Thanks, that was quick!
Does anyone collect oddballs like this?
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Tightlines667 on December 21, 2015, 08:14:24 AM
Sure.  Early aftermarket ad ons could be considered collectable.  Not sure on the value.  It would be worth more if it was in its origional box with instructions included.  I wouldn't mind having one in my collection of early Penns and Ocean City reels. 
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: nelz on January 04, 2022, 09:53:52 PM
Ok, this caught my attention today as it was mentioned in another post. So all I've read so far is "what" this device does, but I want to know "HOW" does it do it? What is the mechanism involved? ???

Is it perhaps like a Squidder's air brake but inside an oil filled container?
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: mo65 on January 05, 2022, 11:08:02 AM
Quote from: nelz on January 04, 2022, 09:53:52 PM
Ok, this caught my attention today as it was mentioned in another post. So all I've read so far is "what" this device does, but I want to know "HOW" does it do it? What is the mechanism involved? ???

Is it perhaps like a Squidder's air brake but inside an oil filled container?

   I haven't seen any detailed explanation Nelz...only this flyer description. 8)
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: oldmanjoe on January 05, 2022, 02:44:17 PM
 ???  How does the spool shaft connect to the device ?    Friction fit ?
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Gfish on January 05, 2022, 03:04:08 PM
Yeah. Also you can put different viscosity oils in there to slightly adjust the pressure on the spool. I got a Jiggy with one on it, but found that the thing was in the way of my left hand. Also this particular one musta been smacked-on pretty hard, as it would tweak if bumped and put noticeable extra pressure on the shaft while casting.
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Shellbelly on February 05, 2022, 08:53:08 PM
According to a 1950 patent, there are fins that rotate through an inhibiting viscous liquid.  Thicker liquid=more resistance.  There is a direct shaft connection via a sleeve and pin arrangement applied at the end of the spool shaft at/near the point where the stock bushing would be.

A 1930's patent actually states one of the intents is to prevent the frustrated angler from "discarding" the reel due to backlashes.  Kinda funny to read that in a formal document. 
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Gfish on February 05, 2022, 09:46:39 PM
HA!, the good ol' days when people adhered to ideas like "honesty is the best policy".
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Shellbelly on February 05, 2022, 09:56:12 PM
Amen!.   Reading that, I could almost hear the "sploosh" of a 1930 knuckle buster hurled overboard.  Today, we'd jump in for that reel!
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: jurelometer on February 06, 2022, 03:03:12 AM
Quote from: nelz on January 04, 2022, 09:53:52 PM
Ok, this caught my attention today as it was mentioned in another post. So all I've read so far is "what" this device does, but I want to know "HOW" does it do it? What is the mechanism involved? ???

Is it perhaps like a Squidder's air brake but inside an oil filled container?

There was a fly reel with a drag system made this way.  The inventor was Sacconi, but the reels that I have heard of were made by STH and sold under their brand name and Cabelas.  Basically a mini turbine in an oil filled chamber.  The faster the line is going out, the faster the turbine  spins, increasing the resistance ( drag).   This was a somewhat useful drag profile for light tippet protection, but oyptherwise not so great.  Plus there was no way to adjust the resistance.  I assume that the cast control works on a similar principle and has the same limitations.

I think that some of the STH reels came with a clear drag cover, so that you could watch the little turbine spin :)


-J