Playing with old reel parts - Penn 155 goof-around.

Started by Wolfram M, March 07, 2023, 10:41:57 PM

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Wolfram M

In the process of rebuilding the stuck 155 I got two years ago for 2$. The pinon gear was *very* stuck on the spool shaft, and I was never able to get it off at all-ended up dropping the plastic spool during the struggle to get it off and broke the lips against the concrete floor. Whoops!

I have been looking for a 29L-100, 150, or 200 spool, the 200 fits directly and the 100 and 150 would be for narrowing up the reel. No luck finding one for less than 50$ though, one will come up someday.

In the meantime, I chucked up an aluminum bar drop from the scrap bin, and started turning an aluminum spool this afternoon. I'll turn it down and get it ready for the stainless steel shaft, but I'll have to make that too...yep, when I dropped the plastic spool and broke it I bent the reduced-diameter section on the original.

I hopefully will have a CNC lathe powered up this coming fall, and I have two CNC mills in my classroom...Should I spend the time to make billet Beachmasters?

JasonGotaProblem

Man I really thought i had this. Turns out a lot of early penn spools start with a 29...

I got a NIB 29m-250 if that helps.
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

Wolfram M

It's OK Jason, I'm having fun making new parts. I should have the spool finished up on the lathe and ready to go into the mill to cut the cross-pin slot tomorrow afternoon, then I can start on the stainless through-shaft.

Once I have the spool made, I have to wait on some parts I ordered from Mystic. I am gonna have to hunt down an original pinion though, to match the perfectly fine main gear I already have. They're not too hard to find, I am waiting til payday before I order more stuff.

Yeah, I know I coulda just ordered the spool from Mystic...I just have a mountain of bar drops to play with.

handi2

No don't order anything

It's much more fun watching you make your own.

Keith
OCD Reel Service & Repair
Gulf Breeze, FL

sciaenops

#4
I found some I don't need. Lmk if you could use. Keith

Black plastic "29-200"
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Maroon plastic "unknown"

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Black plastic "29-155" (narrow) has a chip

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thorhammer

I have some parts....lemme know what you need and i will send on.


John

oldmanjoe

 :D  To hell with the plastic parts , I want to see a episode of as the lathe spins !!!!
Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

Wolfram M

Well here ya go Joe.

Roughed out, got my taper the way I wanted it on the left side, still needs adjusting on the right side.




Here's the reason for turning...I was trying to get the extremely stuck on gear off the shaft, and fumbled the spool onto the concrete floor. Busted it pretty badly.



And the spool finished up, 0.002" over length and on the money for concentricity, next to my favorite fishing snack.



You can see-I bent the clicker side spool pin and ended up grinding it down smooth to pop the clicker wheel off the end. When I remake the spool shaft, I'll just make it exactly the same way.

oldmanjoe

 Nice, that`s a good opener for the series to follow ...    :d
Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

Donnyboat

Walfram, I dont know much about metal work, but I was once told if the end of a shaft was bent, you can heat it red hot, then dip it vertical in water & it will straighten its self out, can anyone comment on that, cheers Don.
Don, or donnyboat

JasonGotaProblem

Wolfram, would you be interested in taking a custom order? It would be for a CT conversion bar. Which geometrically is basically a small diameter spool.
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

Wolfram M

Donny, that would work for a minor, minor tweak but it won't move very much, and it will ruin most steel's heat treatment (if there is any).

Jason, sure, just send me a PM with some dimensions and I'll draw it up and let you measure against the drawing till we got what you want, and I'll machine it up.

I am considering copying every part of the reel, maybe making a frame, etc. It would use the same size frame as a 209, but I doubt the screw holes would be in the same places.

Wolfram M

Quote from: sciaenops on March 08, 2023, 03:58:54 PMI found some I don't need. Lmk if you could use. Keith

Black plastic "29-200"
328FB594-5141-4A78-879B-642C28025AD1.jpeg

DEEF2D07-4152-4FDE-9AED-0C25DEE5B0BD.jpeg

A54B3968-AF3A-4C00-BF19-B7F725FB5BAD.jpeg

Maroon plastic "unknown"

DAF39036-54C2-4EEB-9A9F-8BABC4EC30D0.jpeg

2CA284E3-F855-4508-9F96-4DD2D683CB17.jpeg

577A8F7A-E076-45B7-9807-525BAC34D1F7.jpeg
   
Black plastic "29-155" (narrow) has a chip

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So I dropped the little stub of spool shaft I had, and it's gone forever. Can you measure the overall length of the shaft on one of the 29-200 spools?

Actually if you could give me dimensions for the overall shaft length for both the 29-200 and 29-155, and the plastic spool width on the 29-155? I could make both sizes of spool and shaft.

oldmanjoe

#13
29-200 is 3.465 total length .
29-155 is 3.465 total length also .   
I am getting 2.109 for spool diameter for both 155 and 200
 The nub was .285 long with a .125 shaft diameter . 

  I have a 165  witch is narrower , spool length is 2.207 and total length is 3.153
Grandpa`s words of wisdom......Joey that thing between your shoulders is not a hat rack.....    use it.....
A mind is like a parachute, it only work`s  when it is open.......
The power of Observation   , It`s all about the Details ..
" Life " It`s a thinking man`s game
 Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.   Alto Mare

Wolfram M

Thanks Joe. I discovered an error in this first spool last night, it *should* be recoverable though.