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Title: reselling reels?
Post by: Christopher M Songer on March 05, 2019, 03:22:40 PM
I was given a box of reels. 25 line counters 12 Okuma's ranging from Catalinas to Magpro 20dx. 13 Daiwas line counters. A few Abu casting.
The drag washers are felt in the Daiwa's and durlon or nylon in most of the Okuma's. As I get ready to tear them apart and rebuild for sale I can not decide if I should just put carbon fiber washers in them all and change $10 more per reel or clean and replace the old washers if not torn. I was actually given a box of over 30 reels of good quality for Great Lakes trolling. Some missing cast control caps or other minor things. Personally I would go with the drag washer upgrade but I just want to sell them and move on. What's your thoughts- original drag and sell cheaper or carbon fiber and sell for $10 more.
Pros and Cons?

Thanks,

Chris
Title: Re: reselling reels?
Post by: alantani on March 05, 2019, 03:25:40 PM
i would get them running first, but that's just me.   :-\
Title: Re: reselling reels?
Post by: Bryan Young on March 05, 2019, 03:44:44 PM
Personally, I would service them and install new drag washers before selling.  I just don't want any reel or anyone coming back to me that I sold them junk even though I mention that I didn't check them out first.  No wonder I lose money. ;) ;D
Title: Re: reselling reels?
Post by: Frank on March 05, 2019, 03:51:51 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on March 05, 2019, 03:44:44 PM
Personally, I would service them and install new drag washers before selling.  I just don't want any reel or anyone coming back to me that I sold them junk even though I mention that I didn't check them out first.  No wonder I lose money. ;) ;D

Bryan hit the nail on the head.

Frank
Title: Re: reselling reels?
Post by: foakes on March 05, 2019, 04:02:27 PM
Quote from: alantani on March 05, 2019, 03:25:40 PM
i would get them running first, but that's just me.   :-\

Yeah, I would get them running with each receiving a cleaning, inspection, new drag stack, and proper lubrication.  

Level-Line assemblies can be another issue on these.

If they are sold as is — they will sell either for what you paid for them, or super cheap as a lot, or not at all — and 10 years from now — you will still have most of them.

Just depends on if you want to put the time and a little money into each reel, or not.

The other thing with duplicates of the same kind of reel that is good — if there were broken or badly worn parts, you might be able to take one or two of a group of 10 identical, for example — as parts donor reels.  Then you would have 8 ready to roll reels with only needing to replace the drag stacks.

The real two questions to ask yourself — and answer with brutal honesty, is:

"How much would I pay for a reel that is not ready to fish, has some wear, and needs some parts and a new drag stack?"

"And, being a contributing professional on the Alan Tani reel repair and service site — would I be completely satisfied using any of these reels — as is?"

When you answer those 2 questions to yourself — you will know what direction is best to take.

Sounds like fun!

Best,

Fred

Title: Re: reselling reels?
Post by: Bryan Young on March 05, 2019, 04:07:34 PM
Quote from: foakes on March 05, 2019, 04:02:27 PM
Quote from: alantani on March 05, 2019, 03:25:40 PM
The other thing with duplicates of the same kind of reel that is good — if there were broken or badly worn parts, you might be able to take one or two of a group of 10 identical, for example — as parts donor reels.  Then you would have 8 ready to roll reels with only needing to replace the drag stacks.

I would also give them the remaining good parts from the donor reels because you will never know they they will need them in the future.
Title: Re: reselling reels?
Post by: Christopher M Songer on March 05, 2019, 04:48:54 PM
Going with my gut and as always treat the reels as my own. I would want the upgrade in the reels. My reputation will also be judged by the product I put out there. I am NOT intending to buy and flip reels. Looks like I need to order a boat load of carbon fiber washers! I have 3 sets for the Daiwa 27 series line counters but will hold off using them for now. I just went to the Lake Erie Charter Capts meeting this past Sat and expect to see a boost in my work load.

Thanks for all your input. Always two or more ways to look at something.

Chris
Title: Re: reselling reels?
Post by: mikeysm on March 05, 2019, 04:53:32 PM
That's why I can't sell things I dont want someone to say I sold them junk.

Mike
Title: Re: reselling reels?
Post by: Keta on March 05, 2019, 05:18:58 PM
It sounds like you have several similar reels.  In this situation I would order a few of each Carbontex drag washer sets and once I am sure a reel is repairable put the CF washers in. When you run out of CF washers order a few more and continue.  All of my personal reels with the exception of the "collectors" have had CF washers put in them.
Title: Re: reselling reels?
Post by: Christopher M Songer on March 05, 2019, 05:50:17 PM
Quote from: Keta on March 05, 2019, 05:18:58 PM
It sounds like you have several similar reels.  In this situation I would order a few of each Carbontex drag washer sets and once I am sure a reel is repairable put the CF washers in. When you run out of CF washers order a few more and continue.  All of my personal reels with the exception of the "collectors" have had CF washers put in them.

All these reels I see week in and week out. If I order too many for this set of reels I know I will need it sooner than later. I think I will order enough from Dawn all the Daiwa's and a few extra as I need them all the time anyway.
Title: Re: reselling reels?
Post by: Gfish on March 05, 2019, 07:10:55 PM
Good original question. I agree with Bryan Young and Mikeysm and foakes: sell 'em the best product I can, at a reasonable price. And that's why I probably wouldn't succeed in business.
I've had several "discussions" with my wife, who is a real "value"-"buy it quick, before someone else does" shopper. I hate that style of shopping. Doesn't work well at all with big ticket used items like homes & cars, especially when I'm the one who becomes responsible for repairs & maintenance, and I godda live near loud roadways and pain in the rear neighbors.
I'm not comfortable with selling someone something where I try'n charge as much as I can and let them figure-out what's wrong with it...

If yer not already doin it CMS, you could buy some cf sheets and tools to cut your own drag washers.
Title: Re: reselling reels?
Post by: Christopher M Songer on March 05, 2019, 08:57:07 PM
Hey G, I am busy enough with reels. LOL Still getting my self set up for reel work. My buddy may be interested in making the carbon fiber washers. We could make this a team effort. Thanks to all for your thoughtful comments.
Title: Re: reselling reels?
Post by: reel man on March 05, 2019, 11:42:18 PM
Go thru each reel as if you're going to fish it tomorrow and into the future.
Title: Re: reselling reels?
Post by: steelfish on March 06, 2019, 01:23:39 AM
Quote from: reel man on March 05, 2019, 11:42:18 PM
Go thru each reel as if you're going to fish it tomorrow and into the future.

thats the only way.

Title: Re: reselling reels?
Post by: Dominick on March 06, 2019, 03:58:02 AM
Go lie down on the sofa until the feeling passes.   ::)  Dominick