I've been looking around at the 3oz marine grease cartridges out there, I wish there was some way to compare the various brands. I know that Alan recently had a "discovery" concerning the Yamaha grease and has compared the Evinrude. Is there really that much difference? All the companies have a "blue" formula and claim extra anti-corrosion additives for salt water applications.
Just wondering...
yeah, the omc stuff is really tacky. personally, i really just don't care for it. i'm sure it works fine, though.
I've been using Evinrude triple guard to coat everything. The stuff is tacky and sticky. It works great, but would not recommend it for bearings as it's just too tacky. I've been using it on parts that do not involve movement, such as spools, side plates, screws, etc. Yamaha grease seems to be a good consistency for bearings.
Guys, I've followed the grease discussion for a while and have to put in my 2ยข. For drag washers I used only Cal's Drag Grease. I get it from Dawn at Smooth Drag. For everything else, I use Penn's X-1R grease. It's a blue synthetic grease with great anti-corrosion properties. It's less tacky than Cal's and, I think, the right viscosity for most uses. It costs a little more than Yamaha but is not nearly as expensive as Cal's. I never liked Penn's Muscle Grease or the amber stuff they used to put in tubes but X-1R is good stuff.
I only use marine grease for heavy weight trolling reel.
I use quicksilver c24 as its available onboard my working vessel, they are very low viscosity, and not water soluble.
The C24 is super tacky that I've to manually peel off the first 10m of line before the water drag take over. The reason I'm using marine lube for trolling reel is that I'm like using the reel like 12 hours a day over a month during my work.
For surf reel I only use grease for the main gear and internal parts frame area, I stick with rocket fuel for bearing for long casting distance.
Has any one tried the Corrosion Block Grease yet, and if so any opinions?
Here is a link:
http://www.nocorrosion.com/cart/grease.php
Quote from: Johnny on July 13, 2010, 05:20:12 PM
Has any one tried the Corrosion Block Grease yet, and if so any opinions?
Here is a link:
http://www.nocorrosion.com/cart/grease.php
i've seen that in reels and it sort of clumps up after a while. i wouldn't use it.
What do y'all think about "pennzoil marine grease premium" for reels ?
is the Evinrude grease really bad for the bearings on a spinning reel? If so what 3oz grease canisters do you use for Alan's bearing packers?
Quote from: johnD on December 03, 2010, 09:14:13 PM
What do y'all think about "pennzoil marine grease premium" for reels ?
I think someone here uses the Pennzoil. Was it ReelSpeed? He will probably comment.
Quote from: anw0625 on February 08, 2011, 04:24:43 AM
is the Evinrude grease really bad for the bearings on a spinning reel? If so what 3oz grease canisters do you use for Alan's bearing packers?
Evinrude triple guard grease is really, I mean really thick and tacky. I would not use it on bearings because it is too thick. I mix CorrosionX to thin it out and soften it a bit, then it allows the bearings to spin. This is what I do and it works just fine for me. You really have to watch the packaging of the Evinrude grease. The packaging is the same for wheel bearing as the triple guard except for the name, and I ended up with the wrong grease that I wanted.
I am trying out the CorrosionX grease in my spinner bearings now and will see how well it does.
Alan re-uses the 3 oz canisters. He essentially reloads the canisters with Yamaha marine grease. I don't believe that the Yamaha marine grease comes in 3 oz packages.
Bryan, I do not use the penzoil stuff yet.. I was just looking to get some to do some testing with. I am getting ready to line up a number of greases and do some different testing with them. I spoke in another post about "Water Washout" rating on different greases.. the penzoil is the lowest I have seen on cheap grease. I also ordered a marine Bio grease that has the lowest I have heard of.. but it is more expensive. When I get everything in, I will post on my findings.
i'm reading this and having a good chuckle. just watch. after it's all said and done, we'll probably all wind up back to using the yamaha marine stuff...... ;D
Quote from: alantani on February 08, 2011, 05:23:03 PM
i'm reading this and having a good chuckle. just watch. after it's all said and done, we'll probably all wind up back to using the yamaha marine stuff...... ;D
do you know where or if anyone even has a reusable 3 oz tube to put grease in?
I am sure you are right Alan.. I just figured I would try it out and see what happens.. :)
alan with all your pull, i bet you could get yamaha to make 3oz marine tubes.
you know, it's messy, but you can get any cheap 3 ounce tube grease, push out grease and toss it, then hand pack it with yamaha marine. get a box of nitrile gloves first.
as far as pull goes, i can't even get my kids to clean their rooms! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: kamuwela on February 08, 2011, 07:23:12 PMalan with all your pull, i bet you could get yamaha to make 3oz marine tubes.
Yeah, Yamaha is making a fortune in marine grease. You'd think that they would send Alan a year's supply with all of the publicity.
yeah bryan then he can pass some extra's around.
Does yamaha make any 3 oz tubes of grease?
only in the non-marine version.
Will the no marine one work for saltwater reels?
It won't have the salt water corrosion inhibitors, so you should closely inspect the insides more often, maybe even re-grease more often. But yes, it can be used.
by accident i have found a little corrosion x mixed with grease help's. i prefer marine but i go through the reel's at least twice a yr. i use both yamaha marine and non marine. i know corrosion x works great as a protectant, so till i run out of non marine this is the way i do it. i do mostly trolling reel's and have found no problem's as of yet. here in hawaii the reel's get a good dose of salt water almost every time we go out.
Just to add to the confusion consider this from another site http://www.tackletester.com/?p=1541 . No comments about price, but the picture that accompanied the article showed a plastic tube. Dominick
"Keep things smooth with Daiwa Tournament Grease
Daiwa has released an exclusively designed grease for use with all of their Real Four and Saltiga Reels.
The grease is suitable for moving parts and drag washers, and is made in Japan. Daiwa's service department has been using it for quite some time and from experience the reels almost always come back feeling like new, could the Tournament grease be the secret?
Unfortunately Daiwa's after service turn around can be quite a wait, with "months" not uncommon. But as I said earlier, when it comes back they come back feeling amazing.
I guess for the average angler with at least some idea of how a reel works, the new Tournament grease by Daiwa would save the wait if you self-serviced your reels. Maybe this is just a ploy to get less reels through the allready over worked service centre? Who knows.
Either way, there has been a void of good quality greases in the fishing tackle market for some time, so its good to see something new in the range."
wow! these guys are really fancy!!!!! http://www.tackletester.com/ kinda makes this place look a little dull by comparison. :-[
Quote from: alantani on February 11, 2011, 04:56:56 AM
wow! these guys are really fancy!!!!! http://www.tackletester.com/ kinda makes this place look a little dull by comparison. :-[
Fancy, schmancy, ho hum. Alan, this site has no equal! ;)
Rob
super tiagra? digital controll's, wireless receiver. who would ever figure technolgy would go that far, a little overboard for me.
what i'd like to see is a rod with a digital display for the drag pressure built into the foregrip. that would be slick. i understand dennis braid is working on something like that. alan
For 3 oz grease which one, Yamaha multi purpose or evenrude triple guard? Thanks
Personally, I like the triple guard 'cause it's really tacky and will stick to anything. If I am packing bearing, I mix with corrosionX until I have the consistency of Yamaha marine grease.
Quote from: ReelSpeed on February 08, 2011, 03:52:36 PM
Bryan, I do not use the penzoil stuff yet.. I was just looking to get some to do some testing with. I am getting ready to line up a number of greases and do some different testing with them. I spoke in another post about "Water Washout" rating on different greases.. the penzoil is the lowest I have seen on cheap grease. I also ordered a marine Bio grease that has the lowest I have heard of.. but it is more expensive. When I get everything in, I will post on my findings.
Hi,
I just read the Penzoil marine grease data sheet, I't uses a Calcium thickener and that shoud garatee better washout properties than both Aluminium and Lithium, even without additives. Did you try the Penzoil yet?
I did some research on the Yamaha stuff most of you are using, and it seems at it is produced in the US by a company called Chemtool. So if you want exended datasheets on the Yamaha stuff, you can get it from Chemtool.
I lot of us can't buy Yamaha grease, so it would be interesting to make a list with equal products. But some testing has to be done, because the manufactures of grease products states, Hmm whatever, to sell their products. One thing I believe in, is Calcium thickened products, as in many engineering learnbooks, Calcium thickened products is the way to go in extreme wet environments.
(http://media.noria.com/sites/Uploads/2011/11/21/6bf46c8f-e1c9-4234-9130-6e6277b52090_3-7-12.jpeg)
I found a tube of Marine Grease at my local Advance Auto Parts store. They have a tiny marine section, perhaps because it's Key West. But the tube was about 4 bucks and the grease looks almost identical to the Yamaha stuff. Not too tacky, blue....I like it, honestly. Might be worth checking out for those of you who are interested.
Quote from: coores14 on December 08, 2011, 01:22:50 PM
I found a tube of Marine Grease at my local Advance Auto Parts store. They have a tiny marine section, perhaps because it's Key West. But the tube was about 4 bucks and the grease looks almost identical to the Yamaha stuff. Not too tacky, blue....I like it, honestly. Might be worth checking out for those of you who are interested.
Thanks for the offer,
looking forward the hear how the grease will deal with the environments, long time effects etc.
Chemtool makes good products.
Any grease that fits the required specs will work.
Quote from: alantani on February 08, 2011, 05:23:03 PM
i'm reading this and having a good chuckle. just watch. after it's all said and done, we'll probably all wind up back to using the yamaha marine stuff...... ;D
I wish!!! Blue Yamalube marine unavaiable in the UK, according to my local Yamalube stockist none in UK for the last 4 years.
Quote from: Paleoreelist on December 08, 2011, 06:16:00 PM
Quote from: alantani on February 08, 2011, 05:23:03 PM
i'm reading this and having a good chuckle. just watch. after it's all said and done, we'll probably all wind up back to using the yamaha marine stuff...... ;D
I wish!!! Blue Yamalube marine unavaiable in the UK, according to my local Yamalube stockist none in UK for the last 4 years.
ALCO-EP-73 PLUS is a British product with simular properties as Yamaha marine grease.
http://www.jet-lube.co.uk/05%20greases.html
Thanks for the link Killer Bug, I will give some a go :)
Im in Australia and i currently use Inox MX8 grease. It's a red coloured grease and primarily used for boat trailer wheel bearings so it is high temp, extreme pressure and salt water resistant. Technical data shows it is a lithium based complex grease. It is tacky and seems to adhere very well. Colouration has not changed in reels over 18months since last service. Very happy with it.
I think they are just starting to crack to the US market.
http://www.inoxed.com/mx8.htm (http://www.inoxed.com/mx8.htm)
i've seen inox red grease. looks like the same stuff in avet reels.
Has anyone tried Sta-Lube multi purpose Marine by CRC? Running around getting set up with my grease gun I came across the product and bought a 3 Pck of 3OZ tubes for 5.99. Package reads " a distinctive tacky grease which resists washout under most severe conditions. Warning contains mineral OIL 64741-96-4,Aluminum Benzoate fatty acid hydroxy complexes 82980-53-8, Calcium Dinonylnaphthalene Sulfonate 87885-77-3.
Base Type: Aluminum Complex
Color Blue ( its more like a milky aqua green)
NLGI NO. Grade 2
Drop point Min 450 F
Water Resistence Excellent.
I figured if it was not worthy it would still be used in the trailer bearings. HF carries it.
I could not find any data sheet, but it states <15% washout properties, I would say that's not good enough, should be <5%. If you live in the US, why not order the Yamaha stuff, it seems to work great for most of the US guys in here. But it "never hurts" to try new products, and as you said, you can always use it for other purposes.
recently i got some corrosion-x for test purposes. we cant get their grease here just the liquid product's. i am a fan of their stuff i should be a sales man. i will post more later it is too soon for the results. but i am impressed so far.
Quote from: Paleoreelist on December 08, 2011, 06:16:00 PM
Quote from: alantani on February 08, 2011, 05:23:03 PM
i'm reading this and having a good chuckle. just watch. after it's all said and done, we'll probably all wind up back to using the yamaha marine stuff...... ;D
I wish!!! Blue Yamalube marine unavaiable in the UK, according to my local Yamalube stockist none in UK for the last 4 years.
Yamaha Marine Grease is available in the UK. Try Dolings in Cumbria: www.gwdoling.co.uk
Quote from: cathauler65 on December 30, 2011, 10:52:29 AM
Quote from: Paleoreelist on December 08, 2011, 06:16:00 PM
Quote from: alantani on February 08, 2011, 05:23:03 PM
i'm reading this and having a good chuckle. just watch. after it's all said and done, we'll probably all wind up back to using the yamaha marine stuff...... ;D
I wish!!! Blue Yamalube marine unavaiable in the UK, according to my local Yamalube stockist none in UK for the last 4 years.
Yamaha Marine Grease is available in the UK. Try Dolings in Cumbria: www.gwdoling.co.uk
Yes it is available but not the blue, it's a creamy brown colour now.
Does it look like this?