Being that I'm new to California and west coast lingcod fishing I'm looking for suggestions on jigs for rock cod and lingcod. I'll be putting together a tackle roll of jigs for my first trip out so post up pics of your favorite brand, model and weight to help me spend some $$$$
Hi PJ,
The depth of your location you are fishing dictates what rod/reel and tackle I would fish with.
I like near shore (less than 100 feet).
Artificials: I use 20#-30# braid main line with 30# leader tied to a 2-4 oz jig (diamond, P-Line, weighted head curly tail,... About 2'-3' above the jig, I tie a dropper with a rock fly, curly tail grub,... where my lure becomes a chaser of that lure above.
Live or Dead Bait: I use 20#-30# braid main line with 4-6 oz sliding sinker that stops at a swivel. The swivel is connected to a 2'-4' 30# leader that I attach a live (anchovie) or dead bait (such as a whole squid). Sometimes, I will attached one of those small clip on float right in from of the squid so it floats above the bottom to reduce snags and keeps the squid in eye view from below and above.
Deep water (up to 240 feet), I use the same rigging method as above except I commonly use 50# braid with 50# leader and weights of the lures increase to 6-10 oz depending on wind and drift. I use the lightest weight possible.
My rods are between 7'-9' long. I prefer longer rods because my line is slightly farther out than the guy next to me. I have an 11' rod that I have yet to try on a charter boat...It may be too long. Will have to try and see though.
Come with us on May 22nd and you will learn all sorts of stuff about West coast rockfish jigging.
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=13604.0
I will post some of the stuff I like to use when I get home tonight.
Lots of us use swim baits and rigs tipped with squid strip's etc..
Quote from: theswimmer on April 20, 2015, 10:57:08 PM
Come with us on May 22nd and you will learn all sorts of stuff about West coast rockfish jigging.
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=13604.0
I will post some of the stuff I like to use when I get home tonight.
Lots of us use swim baits and rigs tipped with squid strip's etc..
I'd love to join you guys but unfortunately that's the week our seasonal firefighters start work and we got intense training all week so no extra time off for me. If it was that Saturday or Sunday trip I'd be all about it since I might end up going that weekend anyway....
Lingcod are stupid/aggressive and iron in any color works, size depends on depth and drift. I have some large swimbaits I was going to try last year but breaking my hand kept me from fishing as much as I wanted, this year they will be fished. For rockfish I like 1-1/2" grubs in white, motor oil or green.
Bryan,
What specific reels are you using with 20-30# braid, and which for 50# braid?
Thanx,
Leo
So far I have a mix of squid, ball and knife jigs ranging in weight from 3-7.5 oz in a variety of colors....I'll post some pics of what I have and let me know if you guys think I'm on the right track
Quote from: LTM on April 20, 2015, 11:58:06 PM
Bryan,
What specific reels are you using with 20-30# braid, and which for 50# braid?
Thanx,
Leo
Hi Leo,
Don't laugh, but I'm using an Abu 5500C3 and 6500C3 depending on the amount of line that I need on the reel. For 50# braid, I'm using my ProGear 255.
Bryan
Why would he laugh? I use all levelwinds for rock fish. I've never had issues. I have a Penn 965 and a couple of narrow Abu's.
Or is that not what you meant Bryan?
I go to the 501's for salmon trolling, 146 and Surfmaster for halibut, 140 and 500 for SF bay sharks.
pjstevco - if you ever get to the SF bay area and want to stop while coming or going, I'll set you up with plastic swim baits, and 3 and four ounce jig heads to get you thru any trip. ( I pour them all). And I'll even throw in a bottle of antique Berkeley fish sauce.
Some of my friend think that Abus are rinky dink reels...to them it feels like fishing with a reel with a wire frame.
I use 5500s for freshwater salmon fishing, they do not like saltwater. When I do use them in saltwater they get a good rinsing and cleaning. Mine all have AR bearings AND AR dogs.
heres a pic of what I have so far but I've got a bunch in mail as well
Yeah I use what ever reel I want, whenever. After all, if I screw it up, Mr. Tani taught me how to un-screw it up!
MY absolute favorite thing to do is use a reel too small for the job. I haven't regretted it yet. I don't run into the 'big one that got away'. When I use to salmon fish a lot, everyone that went on my boat would catch big salmon on my rigs. But, to this day I've never caught one larger than 19 lbs., so I fish with small reels.
When my old friend Sal D. put me on a 30lb delta Striper we were using Daiwa line counter 17's.
We used to make up alien looking lures, lol. Every week I'd show him a new alien and we'd have a good time trying them out. He told me I was crazy when I showed up with a way over dressed jig once. We proceeded to slam the stripers that day, and he made me make up a bunch more. But I digress, sorry. I miss that guy bad.
I have my camera and I'm heading to my shop, I will post a photo soon.
Lings will pound a rusty piece of lead filled pipe with hooks on it.
Rancanfish,
I landed my largest Chinook, 42# and the IGFA 12# class record chum salmon on a Penn 10 loaded with 10# mono. Come up to Brookings, OR in early October and fish the "bubble", you will catch at least a few salmon in the 30#-45# range with the possibility of one over 50#.
Wow Lee, a salmon that big would tow my Whaler around!
I agree on the pipe lures. I have a few that a friend gave me. I laughed when it got nailed repeatedly.
Some "small" ones caught in late June/early July.
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Fish/DSCN1388_zps74289f4a.jpg) (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/IGFA19Keta/media/Fish/DSCN1388_zps74289f4a.jpg.html)
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Fish/DSCN1336_zps61926b4a-1.jpg) (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/IGFA19Keta/media/Fish/DSCN1336_zps61926b4a-1.jpg.html)
Here's some of my lingcod lures, the hex bar ones are home made
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Reels/Ling%20Lures_zpse1lczkuv.jpg) (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/IGFA19Keta/media/Reels/Ling%20Lures_zpse1lczkuv.jpg.html)
A quick and cheep one
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Reels/Cheep%20Ling%20Lure_zpsorkjdec9.jpg) (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/IGFA19Keta/media/Reels/Cheep%20Ling%20Lure_zpsorkjdec9.jpg.html)
The most important thing on the boat when fishing for lings in yelloweye habitat
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Reels/Release%20Rig_zpseo92zlqp.jpg) (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/IGFA19Keta/media/Reels/Release%20Rig_zpseo92zlqp.jpg.html)
I agree about the no floaters!
I have fished with Bill Shelton, the guy was always talking / working on new ideas. I still have a bag of stuff he gave me.
Although, for some reason I don't have that release? Hmmm.
Nice salmon. Both the fish and the fisherman have a lot of 'silver'. Heehee.
I pour plastics like that. I sort of copy Fishtraps and an old friends Fatbaits he produced. I worked over my molds until I kind of have a hybrid, in-between size. I thought at times the 3" were too small, and would pull up tiny fish, and other times the 7" were too big and wouldn't get bit. So I played with it until I got a 5" for everyday use.
My second order of jigs arrived....anyone use these facet jigs?
Homemade is Best
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/A_Fisher/IMGP0560.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/A_Fisher/RockfishJig.jpg)
Quote from: whalebreath on April 23, 2015, 03:23:10 PM
Homemade is Best
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/A_Fisher/IMGP0560.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/A_Fisher/RockfishJig.jpg)
What lb leader do you use with that rig?
Just a couple of different things I will use.
The fly's are quite big, some as large as 4 inches.
I use them to target lings as per Brian's post , suspended above a bottom bouncing jig that chases the fly.
Sometimes basic and simple is better.
Sometimes you want to dance with the Hot Blonde!
Quote from: pjstevko on April 23, 2015, 03:39:24 PMWhat lb leader do you use with that rig?
It looks like 150#-guess there was some lying around somewhere usually 80# is lots.
Favorite yoyo jig would be a Salas 6x, Ling, a Jax jig on the bottom with a Kenji fly on a dropper above it.
It's hard to beat a dropper loop with a sandab as bait for Lings!
My final order of jigs arrived.....
I would say you are close to set.
Deep water / current. If you don't have anything in 10-12-14 oz you can make them up using the heavier weights, or buy Diamond bars pre made. Or do the copper pipe with lead inside.
Fish will bite anything when they are on.
The toughest day I had was dead calm, no drift, no bite. So I fell back on my bass fishing experience and just slow crawled jigs w/smaller plastics across the rocks, or bounced it gently in place until I got bit. My buddy never got a bite.
For lings you will almost always do better staying near the bottom. Jigs that flutter a lot on the drop are a big disadvantage in a current. Salas type irons get bit well, but are a pain to fish near the bottom, as you will have a lot more scope in a current. Braid used to make a nice jig that dropped with little flutter on the drop, but lots of action on the retrieve. These type of jigs will be heavier on the bottom.
I love fishing the irons, but I am a big swimbait believer. There are some tricks for maximizing the effectiveness of a swimbait, but mostly it is a matter of bouncing it of the bottom frequently. Also swimbaits will generally do a mouth corner hook - easy to release. When I am releasing a lot of lings, I will even take the barb off of a swimbait jig. You can often shake off a ling in the water, but still (usually) not lose of the ones you want to land. You can also control the size/species you catch by changing the size of your swimbait. Unlike an iron, the fish has to get the whole swimbait in its mouth for you to get a hookup.
-J
I can't wait to try the large swimbaits you sent me to test.
Pics Lee?
I rarely take photos of lingcod but I can.
Quote from: Keta on April 28, 2015, 05:24:51 AM
I rarely take photos of lingcod but I can.
I meant the swimbaits sir. I like to see what every one is making.
Here's one on the bottom.
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Reels/Ling%20Lures_zpse1lczkuv.jpg)
Is that a 7" ?
I think so but will measure them after I get back from the stress test.
Quote from: Rancanfish on April 28, 2015, 05:37:52 AM
Quote from: Keta on April 28, 2015, 05:24:51 AM
I rarely take photos of lingcod but I can.
I meant the swimbaits sir. I like to see what every one is making.
Quote from: Rancanfish on April 28, 2015, 06:09:53 AM
Is that a 7" ?
The swimbaits that Lee is testing for me are 7and 9 inch nose to tail( not counting the jig head). I haven't tried the 9s personally on lingcod, but they did exceptionally well on the yellowtail in both scratch bites and WFO. The 7s work well for the local lings and bigger calicos down south. Most of the lings caught around here are 2 to 4 years old- running about 20-30 inches.
IMHO, If you just want to catch more lings and rockfish, use a shorter swimbait- the big baits mean more short strikes. You are weeding out the smaller fish so your gear is in the zone for larger fish. I still like the 7s, but most folks fishing San Francisco or further south will fish a 5 or 6. 9s for lings will probably make for a slower day until you get further north.
Here is a shot of my state of the art and highly organized R&D facilities:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hwjC_eUQXfk/VT_HifK-1HI/AAAAAAAAA9Q/7HoMPo-oa4A/s640/image.jpg)
-J
Quote from: pjstevko on April 22, 2015, 02:46:55 PM
heres a pic of what I have so far but I've got a bunch in mail as well
The Blade Runner is perfect, but I wouldn't spend a ton on jigs for our central coast. Fishtrapp, long eel like plastics in the shallows, ect... Heavier jigs for deeper water (100"-240') But the fun guys are in the shallows ;D Nice lot of iron you got going!
Tim
Quote from: Big Tim on April 29, 2015, 03:23:40 AM
Quote from: pjstevko on April 22, 2015, 02:46:55 PM
heres a pic of what I have so far but I've got a bunch in mail as well
The Blade Runner is perfect, but I wouldn't spend a ton on jigs for our central coast. Fishtrapp, long eel like plastics in the shallows, ect... Heavier jigs for deeper water (100"-240') But the fun guys are in the shallows ;D Nice lot of iron you got going!
Tim
yeah i'm done buying for now until I actually get to go fishing and lose some ;D ;D ;D ;D
I stood next to a guy fishing a 9-10 inch plastic grub on a 16 oz. head and he was slaying giant lings one after the other. Proving to me that big baits = big fish. I will have a dozen of them on my next trip.
Keep in mind where you were fishing David. If you use a 9" swimbait in the SF area you are going to have a slower ratio of big hits than your rail partner did. IMHO.
I'll echo the post above advocating going smaller. I also make my pours super soft so I get more action. You have to change baits more often because they get ripped up on every hit. But at the same time the action causes more hits. A good Catch -22 to have.
But all that said, my biggest ling ever came on an octopus I snagged and immediately dropped back down. I haven't found a good octi-copy yet. 8)
True message, location, location, location. Holds true for everything!
I'm more than happy to trade off a quantity of smaller fish for the occasional linker. I'll let you know how it works out for me. I will have plenty of 6-8-10 oz. heads and soft baits on hand and a bucket filled with Boos Bars from Harry!
Just saw your reply David. Good luck with the big boys.
Now I need to know what a Boos Bar is?
Quote from: Bryan Young on April 20, 2015, 09:41:23 PM
Hi PJ,
The depth of your location you are fishing dictates what rod/reel and tackle I would fish with.
I like near shore (less than 100 feet).
Artificials: I use 20#-30# braid main line with 30# leader tied to a 2-4 oz jig (diamond, P-Line, weighted head curly tail,... About 2'-3' above the jig, I tie a dropper with a rock fly, curly tail grub,... where my lure becomes a chaser of that lure above.
Live or Dead Bait: I use 20#-30# braid main line with 4-6 oz sliding sinker that stops at a swivel. The swivel is connected to a 2'-4' 30# leader that I attach a live (anchovie) or dead bait (such as a whole squid). Sometimes, I will attached one of those small clip on float right in from of the squid so it floats above the bottom to reduce snags and keeps the squid in eye view from below and above.
Deep water (up to 240 feet), I use the same rigging method as above except I commonly use 50# braid with 50# leader and weights of the lures increase to 6-10 oz depending on wind and drift. I use the lightest weight possible.
My rods are between 7'-9' long. I prefer longer rods because my line is slightly farther out than the guy next to me. I have an 11' rod that I have yet to try on a charter boat...It may be too long. Will have to try and see though.
Bryan you gotta show me how you tie on your teaser flies. I was just making a loop in my line and slipping it through the eye than over the fly, yesterday fish were going after the fly and slicing off my line.
Quote from: Rancanfish on June 14, 2015, 01:44:48 PM
Just saw your reply David. Good luck with the big boys.
Now I need to know what a Boos Bar is?
boos bars are hand poured and plated jigs made locally by rock fish legend Harry Boos.
I had a bucket full but when you get 10 people fishing at once I go through a lot of gear, irons get caught up the instant you stop feeling the bottom and the majority of the time they're lost.
I found an interesting feed on making your own jigs from old stainless flatware.
Led me to the thrift store where I picked up a couple dozen heavy stainless forks, knives and spoons for 6.00.
Flattened the spoons on my little anvil, drilled holes for split rings, ordered up some rings and hooks, they'll end up costing me about 1.05 each so I won't feel so bad when they snag up on the rocks.
You can fancy them up if you want or just slap hooks and swivels on and fish them.
Quote from: Keta on April 28, 2015, 05:55:31 AM
Here's one on the bottom.
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Reels/Ling%20Lures_zpse1lczkuv.jpg)
Lee, have you had any luck with the jig bars? (solid bars on the upper left)
I have some on chrome and never have catched anything on them
They work on our lingcod.
Quote from: Keta on July 06, 2015, 12:01:37 AM
They work on our lingcod.
hooks on the bottom or assisted hooks?
we dont have bottom critters as lingcod and rockots, I have always used as deep jiggs for yellowtail and sierras but no luck with them, they prefer salas jr type of irons
Both, most people here still put treble hooks on the bottom, I use assist hooks. They might work on grouper.
I bought 10' of 1/2" copper.$11.00, 50 SS 10/0 open eye mustad hooks $68.00, 100 #10 SS split rings.
100 4.5" B2 glow in the dark squid bodies $20.00 from China and got here in less than 10 days?
One stick of copper makes up 14-8.5" pieces each approximately 1lb when filled with lead.
In two trips we have used them exclusively and caught and released a few hundred rock fish and around 50 ling cod. No need for any other rigs, of the 14 started with we have lost 9 rigs to snags and locked fish.
I have lots of old lead to melt so it costs me a couple bucks per rig but that means I only lost 18-20 bucks in gear as compared to 100.00 for store bought, I'm going to lose them anyway, store bought or home made makes no difference. I keep meaning to take pictures of them but they went straight to the boat. Going to have to make up a new batch soon I will take pictures then, they are not my design I pilfered them from a guy in Alaska who pilfered them from someone else, probably a plumber!
Yes, definitely post them up when you do Mr. Hall.
I've got copper pipe and a ton of lead literally. I'll be ready.
Since this picture is hijacked along with the concept I don't think anyone will mind my posting it here.
If you google home made long cod jigs then scroll down to the Images and open that link and scroll through till you see this picture there is an excellent step by step instructions for making them.
I've seen pipe jigs before but not this style. Some were so basic they were Jethro Bodine style.
A treble at each end of the pipe and eyelet in the middle. Like a T-bar.
When I saw Lee's Hex bar jigs the thought came to mind to get some 3/8th re-bar and cut each end at a shallow angle for drilling and then get them hard chromed. And then I thought...naahh skip the chrome, just spray paint 'em and tip the hooks with hoochies and salmon bellies. Re-bar is cheap or even free.
Yep no point in dressing up the bar unless you just enjoy making them purty.
These pics are not mine although the only difference is the type of skirt, I like the B2 glow squid bodies and they cost me about 40 cents each.
Since I am not fishing for awhile I thought i would take the time to make up another batch of copper pipe jigs.
And since I'm not building any reels right now I feel the need to post up my process for making them. Something to do and maybe someone might find it useful.
I start out with 20' of 1/2" type M copper pipe, it's thinner than K or L and therefore costs a little less. 22.00
From my local OSH. Cut it with a tubing cutter into 8" lengths, you will end up with 30 pieces.
Smash approximately 3/4" on one end flat, I use my bench vise.
Stand them up in a bucket open side up and fill around them with sand or fine gravel. fill the pipes with molten lead.
Don't be inhaling the fumes, wear a chemical mask, welders gloves and goggles.
I use a small commercial lead smelting pot. my choice of lead is whatever I have on hand that I don't need.
Today it is 20lbs of .38 wad cutters. Note when using these they are coated with oils to aid in seating them, when melted the oils separate and float to the top, they smoke like crazy, I use a shop rag to soak them right off the top, all other impurities will also float to the top. My last batch were made from old weights that the wires had broken or rusted out.
Tomorrow I will drill these for split rings and cotter pins and start prepping the hardware.
Items I use.
1. 20' copper pipe
2. 30 #10 SS split rings
3. 60 150lb barrel swivels
4. 30 open eye siwash mustad hooks 3/0-9/0 whatever you like they all work the same. Treble hooks work just as good but they are a PITA to remove from your fish.
5. 30 1/8"X1" SS cotter pins
6. 30 soft plastics jig bodies, your choice, I like GITD B2 4-3/4" squid bodies. I use nothing else.
This gives you the basic 1lb. jig which works great in depths up to 130' any deeper and I want 2lbs.
This batch I am working on I am adding some teaser flies which will tie 18" above the jig on a drop leader.
Striper Lou makes some very nice ones that I will be adding to Some of these. They add cost to the jig but they are incredibly productive.
After cooling off, drill 1/8" hole approximately 1/8"-1/4" from the end centered on the flat end and another 1/8" hole 5" from the other end. This dimension is dependent on the length of the hook and swivel you use. The intent is to have the hook far enough down the pipe that when the lure is dropped rapidly the hook cannot float up and snag you main line and still far enough above the bottom of the lure so the hook won't hit the rocks before the lure body, it helps keep the hook above and reduces the number of lures I get hung up.
I do not believe you can do better than a pipe jig for big lings. Some of the most fun in PNW water!
Ron
Thanks David. I've always wanted to make those...
There we go, 20lbs lead, 20' copper, some hardware and rubber skirts and about 8hrs = 30 bottom fish jigs ready for the boat.
Quote from: noyb72 on August 30, 2015, 06:41:18 PM
I do not believe you can do better than a pipe jig for big lings. Some of the most fun in PNW water!
Ron
They are by far my number one producers here on the central coast of California. I would love to get back up north and fish them one day soon.
Quote from: David Hall on August 30, 2015, 10:31:53 PM
There we go, 20lbs lead, 20' copper, some hardware and rubber skirts and about 8hrs = 30 bottom fish jigs ready for the boat.
How do you prevent the rust on the Cooper tubes?
I would think a good wash down rinse when you get back home.
Steel wool off any green.
Thanks David!!
David I never fished with something like that. Is it difficult to feel a bite? The rock fish and lings I've caught were on drop loops. Dominick
Dom,
They are the same as any other bottom jig. My biggest issue with them is trying to keep the yellow eyes off of them. BIG treble hooks help with that.
Ron
As long as you maintain good feel with the jig at all times I have no trouble feeling the bite, as for keeping the yellow eyes off, never been a problem, I haven't hooked, seen or heard of a single one caught where I'm fishing.
As for cleaning I just set them in a plastic tub filled with white vinegar 10 minutes and they sparkle like new again I only do that once a year because the fish do not seen to care one bit if th pipe is dull or shiny, in fact I'm thinking they like the old corroded ones better.
Quote from: David Hall on August 31, 2015, 07:44:01 PM
As for cleaning I just set them in a plastic tub filled with white vinegar 10 minutes and they sparkle like new again I only do that once a year because the fish do not seen to care one bit if th pipe is dull or shiny, in fact I'm thinking they like the old corroded ones better.
I asked becasue cooper compared to other metal is one of the first metals (normally used on fishing to get corrosion on saltwater, I really like the idea and design, I might even use one of those $1.00 spray can paints on wallyword to cover them and add a little more protection for corrosion, with one spray can you can paint a lot of those cooper tubes when finished.
Quote from: steelfish on August 31, 2015, 08:16:32 PM
Quote from: David Hall on August 31, 2015, 07:44:01 PM
As for cleaning I just set them in a plastic tub filled with white vinegar 10 minutes and they sparkle like new again I only do that once a year because the fish do not seen to care one bit if th pipe is dull or shiny, in fact I'm thinking they like the old corroded ones better.
I asked becasue cooper compared to other metal is one of the first metals (normally used on fishing to get corrosion on saltwater, I really like the idea and design, I might even use one of those $1.00 spray can paints on wallyword to cover them and add a little more protection for corrosion, with one spray can you can paint a lot of those cooper tubes when finished.
Probably true but since I lose them so fast painting seems like an extra step for no gain.
But go for it if like to see what you come up with.
I understand..
But I really dont need anything above 8oz here in Baja (sea of cortez side).
Cooper Pipes for 8oz and 10oz are going to be really short, compares with yours
No mistaking a bite when you're into BIG Lings or Big Yelloweyes. These two fine examples were caught by the lodge crew where I go each year.
But nowadays the regs require a deep descender release device for barotrauma'ed rockfish that you don't want to keep or have gone over your limit.
Where are you at Steve, it's been years since we could harvest the abundant yelloweye.
Quote from: steelfish on August 31, 2015, 08:16:32 PM
Quote from: David Hall on August 31, 2015, 07:44:01 PM
As for cleaning I just set them in a plastic tub filled with white vinegar 10 minutes and they sparkle like new again I only do that once a year because the fish do not seen to care one bit if th pipe is dull or shiny, in fact I'm thinking they like the old corroded ones better.
I asked becasue cooper compared to other metal is one of the first metals (normally used on fishing to get corrosion on saltwater, I really like the idea and design, I might even use one of those $1.00 spray can paints on wallyword to cover them and add a little more protection for corrosion, with one spray can you can paint a lot of those cooper tubes when finished.
One thing I worry about, and is another reason why I haven't made any, is that copper, if left on the bottom of the sea floor, will kill all coral and aquatic plant life surrounding it. That is why copper is used in bottom paint of boats. I believe that the environmental impact is far greater than aluminum, lead, and other materials used in lures.
With that said, copper in salt water produces an electrical voltage that is a great fish attractor. It is said that the voltage produced by copper mimics fish in distress. By coating the copper, you will loose this benefit.
Quote from: Bryan Young on April 22, 2015, 02:32:32 PM
Some of my friend think that Abus are rinky dink reels...to them it feels like fishing with a reel with a wire frame.
Being a kayaker, my fav three reels for rockfish are (in no order) Abu 6501 C3 (left hand with power handle), Surfmaster 100, and the Shimano TR 100G, Rods I love the Shimano Trevela in ML, it has great sensitivity. Keep in mind kayak fishing is not the same as boat fishing, we can use the kayak as a form of drag on big fish. Line of choice 20 lb mono, why, you try to break something really heavy you stand the chance of going off balance and rolling over. Not fun at all.
Jigs, squids jigs from P-line with torpedo weights in 2 ounces seem to work good. Swim baits with a shrimp fly teaser also gets the job done. One guy in my kayak club used a Barbie doll, some one else used a Minion toy, which goes to show, lings will hit just about anything.
Quote from: Keta on September 01, 2015, 12:51:48 PM
Where are you at Steve, it's been years since we could harvest the abundant yelloweye.
Prince of Wales Island is where I fish each year.
The regs have changed over the last 15 years. The descender fish release is a must to return rockfish to their depth if not retaining any or have reached that species harvest limit.
One of the boat captains at the lodge say because of this it virtually makes huge areas " unfishable" due to the abundance of Yelloweyes. And the Lingcod harvest is 2 for a Non-resident Both must be one in each slot size ie- a big one and a little one.
For a Non-Res (me) only one Yelloweye harvested per year on the Outside waters where I fish. Inside waters it's two annual limit. For Residents - 1 a day all year.
• Southeast Outside Waters• Alaska Residents— no size limit, 2 daily, only 1 may be a yelloweye;
4 in possession, of which no more than 2 may be yelloweye.
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For Nonresidents—no size limit, 2 daily, only 1 may be a yelloweye;
4 in possession, of which no more than 1 may be a yelloweye; annual limit
of 1 yelloweye, which must be recorded, in ink, on the back of the angler's
sport fishing license or on a harvest record card immediately at the time of
harvest (see page 6).•
Southeast Inside Waters• Alaska Residents—no size limit, 3 daily, only 1 may be a yelloweye;
6 in possession, of which no more than 2 may be yelloweye.
• For Nonresidents—no size limit, 2 daily, only 1 may be a yelloweye;
4 in possession, of which no more than 2 may be yelloweye; annual limit
of 2 yelloweye, which must be recorded, in ink, on the back of the angler's
sport fishing license or on a harvest record card immediately at the time of
harvest (see page 6).
Quote from: Bryan Young on September 01, 2015, 03:04:27 PM
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As for cleaning I just set them in a plastic tub filled with white vinegar 10 minutes and they sparkle like new again I only do that once a year because the fish do not seen to care one bit if th pipe is dull or shiny, in fact I'm thinking they like the old corroded ones better.
I asked becasue cooper compared to other metal is one of the first metals (normally used on fishing to get corrosion on saltwater, I really like the idea and design, I might even use one of those $1.00 spray can paints on wallyword to cover them and add a little more protection for corrosion, with one spray can you can paint a lot of those cooper tubes when finished.
One thing I worry about, and is another reason why I haven't made any, is that copper, if left on the bottom of the sea floor, will kill all coral and aquatic plant life surrounding it. That is why copper is used in bottom paint of boats. I believe that the environmental impact is far greater than aluminum, lead, and other materials used in lures.
With that said, copper in salt water produces an electrical voltage that is a great fish attractor. It is said that the voltage produced by copper mimics fish in distress. By coating the copper, you will loose this benefit.
Dang Brian whyd you have to tell me that? Im going to have to switch over to Aluminum pipe! see how they work out, I dont want to responsible for killing all the reef life!
Its bad enough that I was watching the Big Blue special on TV last night and think I found my lost crab pot!
One was cut loose from a humpback whale in the Bay! I dropped one and four hours later it had dissapeard entirely, I looked for it for days but never found it, I was sure it was stolen, right out of the middle of my string. Im going to stop by the Monterey Bay aquarium and check it out next time I am down there.
Copper works so well because of the electricity that is generated.
HOLY-O Steve-o!
I have never seen rockfish of any variety that big.
Not trying to hijack a thread, but found round 1/2" dia. solid copper stock for $9 per 12", weighing about 3/4 lb per foot....but could this be used instead of the copper tubing filled with lead? Might save some time and burnt fingers....but probably not cheaper.....
Quote from: TARFU on September 26, 2015, 05:40:43 AM
Not trying to hijack a thread, but found round 1/2" dia. solid copper stock for $9 per 12", weighing about 3/4 lb per foot....but could this be used instead of the copper tubing filled with lead? Might save some time and burnt fingers....but probably not cheaper.....
(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj632/Fubarciw/piccopperrd.jpg)
It could most definitely be used, rebar and galvanized pipe are used, but for that kind of money you can buy really nice mass produced jigs.
I only make pipe jigs because I can make ten for the price of one good store bought jig, that and the fact that pipe jigs work better than anything Else I have ever tried store bought or home made.
;D I just read over this thread again. Very enjoyable 1/2 hour spent rereading.
Just an update on my personal choice....After trying many different jigs for the central CA coast this has become my favorite jig for big lings and rockfish (any color)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CAIVO-3D-PITTBOSS-II-VERTICAL-JIGS-Col-Anchovy-SLOW-Jig-BOTTOM-LING-RED/162027869757?hash=item25b99d163d:m:mqTBw09-MSZSq6lZR7tCbEQ
We have to be ready for really big ling cod up here in Morro Bay!
Can't wait to see the other anglers faces when you walk down the dock carrying that monster setup!
QuoteWe have to be ready for really big ling cod up here in Morro Bay!
Please tell me that you're bringing that on the 1st.... ;)
Super secret weapon. A modified Steve-O-
this is a good thread! i found an old hexbar (10 size) in grandpa's old box of weights. replaced the rusty treble with a new one. it might be a little small, but we'll see. i'll be amazed if it works. i have some diamond jigs and big swimbaits to try, too.
This is what I've been working with, the 3 on the right are the best producers, especially the SF 49ers color Squish jig. The others either haven't enticed the fish enough or I just haven't had enough time on the water with them.
(https://i.imgur.com/RLLrSPa.jpg)
I've been "all in" on the slow pitch jigging thing, I can see how it got so popular in Japan. Lotta fun.