Randy,
Do you think you could talk Tiburon into making Daiwa sealine frames in narrower versions??
Say, 30h, 30sh, 50h, 300h, 400h....
These are incredible reels, very low price and widely available online.
With narrower options, many of these reels can be resurrected into lightweight narrow braid reels for more far reaching applications with parts that are known to last a lifetime.
A 30h or even a 30sh with the super narrow options like the jigmaster and squidder that you have would be a great reel. The rest in narrower versions would be great too.
I have a few reels that I would be willing to lend out for measurements if you can make this a go.
Does anyone else think this is a good idea????
Eugene
I think it's a great idea. Those reels are built like tanks as is. A narrow version would be sweet.
Makes a lot more sense than creating ultra narrow squidders!
I personally wouldn't mind seeing a narrowed (not super narrow) TLD 15 frame and spool. Sort of like a TLD 10. Going one step farther, perhaps aluminum frames for all single speed TLD lever drags.
X2 on aluminum frames for the TLD's. But first for the standard 20 & 25's so the full drag potential can be used without fear of breaking the frame. Rudy
The TLD frame would be the bomb for the 15 or the 20. Count me in on those.
Cheers:
Todd
I would be in for a narrow 50h, 300h, 400h, 600h Daiwa's and a couple narrow TLD's would be sweet!
I really appreciate all of the good suggestions. I agree that the Daiwa Sealine and Shimano TLDs are great reels, but one of the reasons that I have focused on Penns and Newells is that they connect me to a happy time when I was young and everything that was good was made right here in the USA, before the imports were a factor. I do buy and sell Shimano and Daiwa reels, and even use them on occasion, but I always feel slightly treasonous when I do, and I try to buy American whenever possible.
That said, my business depends upon providing what my customers want to buy, not necessarily what I like, so if there is enough demand to support a 35 unit order, I will gladly take a Sealine or TLD to Tiburon and see what we can do.
So let's run it up the flagpole and see who salutes! For the sake of this study, let's assume that a narrow frame/spool/rod clamp kit for the TLD20 or Sealine 50H would sell for $130 plus shipping. Who would be interested? Please let me know if you would want the Daiwa, the Shimano, or if you would be interested in both (spaced six months apart).
Thanks,
Randy
Randy I'll take two TLD 20 frames for sure. If they will produce TLD 25 frames also, I'll take two of those too. Rudy
I'd take two of each, thanks!
I'd be in for a TLD kit.
Todd
me too. I have six or eight 15's and 3 or 4 20 single speeds. My 20 and 30 two speeds already have tib frames
I'd be interested in any TLD frame/spool combinations. Whether just making frames to suit stock spools, or a complete narrow kit. But any frame kit will have to be supplied with frame screws, as the stock frames have the coarse pitch screws for the graphite frames. So what would we go for in an aftermarket frame kit, metric or imperial spec. screws? I can see these possibly having wide international interest, so a decision would need to be made about long to availability of replacement frame screws. Japanese are generally "metricated", and that would be my preference. UN standard screws are not always easily available in parts of the world outside the USA. This definitely applies to Daiwas, as well.
I would be very interested in a 30H narrow kit. Now if only we could get 30H SS gear sleeves made. ::)
A TLD15 or TLD20/25 frame makes a fair bit of sense due to the sheer number of those reels out there in the world.
At the same time, it's a dubious economic proposition; with how much I would anticipate a frame kit to cost, and the minimal actual benefit to the reels (the smaller ones are limited by the pinion bearing, not the frame), it just doesn't add up for me. The design of the reel is somewhat dated and the major restrictions can't be fixed without basically re-engineering most of the reel. Mods to star drag reels, where you can replace the entire drag mechanism relatively easily, make a lot more sense.
50H for me.
Since we are not getting enough interest, would a narrow 300h be better option that would draw more interest???
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Uh, either!
The Man
Just saw this post. I'd be in for a topless TLD20 frame.
The thread started out as a Daiwa Sealine thread and morphed into a Shimano TLD thread. Don't know when the title was changed. Perhaps start again with two separate threads? I'm still down for a narrow Diawa 50H.
Merry Christmas,
Frank
Put me down for one for the daiwa sl50sh.
I'd take 2 50h kits
Any more 50h kits???
Eugene, I really appreciate you trying to put this together, but I am only counting four or five people interested in Daiwa frames. I don't mind rolling the dice and committing to half of the run, but it does not look like we are going to be able to come close to enough interest to justify an order for 50 kits, which is what I would need to buy to make it happen.
Randy
Randy,
I was hoping more people would bite..
Randy, why do people want a narrowed TLD 20 or 25. Just to have something different? I would like to see standard width TLD 20 & 25 single speed frames in aluminum to get rid of the weak graphite frames that break in the foot area. By building normal width TLD 20 & 25's there is no need for special spools. There are no problems with the graphite side plate so it can be used with an aluminum frame. An aluminum side plate would be nice though. I would jump on aluminum frames for TLD 20 & 25's in normal widths. If I really needed a narrower reel in this class there are plenty of reels in the marketplace that will fill the bill and probably cost less in the long run. That's just my opinion but maybe you or Tom can pick up the ball and get it rolling. Rudy
Quote from: RowdyW on April 26, 2019, 08:08:24 PM
Randy, why do people want a narrowed TLD 20 or 25. Just to have something different? I would like to see standard width TLD 20 & 25 single speed frames in aluminum to get rid of the weak graphite frames that break in the foot area. By building normal width TLD 20 & 25's there is no need for special spools. There are no problems with the graphite side plate so it can be used with an aluminum frame. An aluminum side plate would be nice though. I would jump on aluminum frames for TLD 20 & 25's in normal widths. If I really needed a narrower reel in this class there are plenty of reels in the marketplace that will fill the bill and probably cost less in the long run. That's just my opinion but maybe you or Tom can pick up the ball and get it rolling. Rudy
I agree with you Rudy. The only TLD that I wouldn't mind seeing a tad bit narrower is the 15. Most who own these proven reels realize their capabilities and still fish them with mono.
Quote from: RowdyW on April 26, 2019, 08:08:24 PM
Randy, why do people want a narrowed TLD 20 or 25. Just to have something different? I would like to see standard width TLD 20 & 25 single speed frames in aluminum to get rid of the weak graphite frames that break in the foot area. By building normal width TLD 20 & 25's there is no need for special spools. There are no problems with the graphite side plate so it can be used with an aluminum frame. An aluminum side plate would be nice though. I would jump on aluminum frames for TLD 20 & 25's in normal widths. If I really needed a narrower reel in this class there are plenty of reels in the marketplace that will fill the bill and probably cost less in the long run. That's just my opinion but maybe you or Tom can pick up the ball and get it rolling. Rudy
Have you ever seen a 20 (single speed) or a 25 break?
I've got a TLD 25 frame with a severe break in my junk box. When it cracked it also twisted out of shape. Do you want it? ;D ;D The one I'm most worried about is my TLD 50II. No frames available anymore from Shimano.