I made a prototype drag star out of 316 stainless steel today. Overall diameter is 3", vs 2.5" for the original 113h one. This one is tapped for the 1/2" diameter gear sleeve, I am still waiting on the tap for the smaller ones to arrive.
Im looking for opinions on the design and size of these. I can make practically any design and size.
The second photo is comparing it to the original.
What is the thread form and size for the smaller Penn sleeve?
Good job man! I'm a fan of the design of those aluminum ones you can buy on ebay
Looks good! Get ready for the flood wall to break! ;)
Quote from: Irish Jigger on March 05, 2014, 12:11:20 AM
What is the thread form and size for the smaller Penn sleeve?
I'll post it after I receive the tap and confirm the size.
The 1/2" diameter gear sleeve on my 113h is 1/2-32.
Very cool 8) I'll take 4 for the 113h and 4for the 112h/500 fine thread! ;D
Very nice Threese7ens.
Here is one of my favorite shapes, I wish someone could me some in the dimensions showing bellow
(http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t646/pescatore2/custom%20stainless%20parts/002_zpsec59f972.jpg) (http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/pescatore2/media/custom%20stainless%20parts/002_zpsec59f972.jpg.html)
I'm ready to buy. What will your pricing be.
Ron
Nice!
Quote from: noyb72 on March 05, 2014, 12:51:34 AM
I'm ready to buy. What will your pricing be.
Ron
I'll have the pricing info up by Thursday, I'm just looking to get a little more feedback before I cut a batch of them.
Any way you could also make some as the shape I'm showing?
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 05, 2014, 01:40:18 AM
Any way you could also make some as the shape I'm showing?
First two are 2.5", and the third one is the second scaled to 3". I can scale it to 2.75" just as easily. Like the design, or should I make changes?
I'm to open to any additional designs, and I can make as many different styles as there is interest for, including special designs.
Looks good, I like the one in the middle best, it has less meat around the hole, the less there the better.
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 05, 2014, 02:23:24 AM
Looks good, I like the one in the middle best, it has less meat around the hole, the less there the better.
X2 ;D ;D ;D
I think I see a Shark handle arm in the mix. ;)
Aesthetically I like the middle one. Dom, why do you not like material in the middle.
Ron
Quote from: noyb72 on March 05, 2014, 08:12:39 PM
Aesthetically I like the middle one. Dom, why do you not like material in the middle.
Ron
No Ron, that was me, stop drinking ::) ;D. I do like it better with less material, but I'm with you guys whatever you decide, as long as you go with the shape that I'm showing ;)
Check this out Penn is keyed
(http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t646/pescatore2/002_zps488029b3.jpg) (http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/pescatore2/media/002_zps488029b3.jpg.html)
I'm guessing they did this so they could use it on two different reels, the 955 and 965.
It doesn't make sense to me though, it probably would have been easier and cheaper to just make another :-\
8)
I don't know why some of the lines in the shark show up as jagged when I exported the PDF, but they are all smooth curves in the actual cad drawing. It's shown next to keta's 3 hole handle for size comparison.
Now were talking! ;D
Who else wants one of these Bad Boys! ;) 9/0?
yeesh! i hope the anti-reverse never fails under a load. i'd hate to see what that would do to your knuckles if it came flying backwards! :o
Quote from: alantani on March 06, 2014, 12:19:38 AM
yeesh! i hope the anti-reverse never fails under a load. i'd hate to see what that would do to your knuckles if it came flying backwards! :o
Can you say BUZZ SAW!!
Ron
Oh Happy day! ;D
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/image_zps36fc2150.jpg)
You know, that custom handle doe look cool
(http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t646/pescatore2/image_zps64ef1935.jpg) (http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/pescatore2/media/image_zps64ef1935.jpg.html)
;)
copycat! ;)
I have my order in. ;D
Its all yours my man ;), bad enough I use a table saw and chop saw everyday.
I need my hands ;D.
Well I want one too!! I have to stay in the cool club
With one of Alan's big handles on there, I think its pretty safe. That's why I'm only using it on a 9/0. There is plenty of distance between the handle and the arm. This is mostly just for decoration, but can be used, He is making them out of 3/16" stainless.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_22081_zps019d681b.jpg)
Now there is two requirements Chris. ;) You have to own a Tank and a Shark Handled 9/0! :D
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/image_zpsbd843391.jpg)
Quote from: Alto Mare on March 05, 2014, 09:52:57 PM
Quote from: noyb72 on March 05, 2014, 08:12:39 PM
Aesthetically I like the middle one. Dom, why do you not like material in the middle.
Ron
No Ron, that was me, stop drinking ::) ;D. I do like it better with less material, but I'm with you guys whatever you decide, as long as you go with the shape that I'm showing ;)
Check this out Penn is keyed
(http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t646/pescatore2/002_zps488029b3.jpg) (http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/pescatore2/media/002_zps488029b3.jpg.html)
I'm guessing they did this so they could use it on two different reels, the 955 and 965.
It doesn't make sense to me though, it probably would have been easier and cheaper to just make another :-\
Less material in the center will provide more leverage when needed to button down the drag; otherwise back to regular. BTW, Im in for three of the one in the picture.
Leo
I don't know about the leverage, I just like the stars.
Ronald
Here ya go shark hunter, test fitting the first one.
Gladiator Chariots springs to mind.
Hope the AR dogs hold ;)
Very nice Three7ens. You know, eventually we will get your name ;D
I'm sure Daron will put some shine to it, just make sure you have two dogs on that reel ;).
I got the tap for the small sleeve drag stars, and it's not a very good fit. It goes on easy, but is very loose. I'll do some more research on it, as I have an idea of what it may be. A long time ago, numbered screw sizes went up to 30 something. Modern screw sizes are fractional after #12. The tap I tried that didn't work was a 13/32-32 tpi.
Good news though, I have 10 of the 3" drag stars and 1 2.5" drag star cut out of 316 stainless. I'll be tapping them for the 1/2" diameter gear sleeve this weekend. $14 plus shipping for the 2.5" and $16 plus shipping for the 3". First availability goes to the people who have already requested them in this thread, and once these are gone I will cut another batch.
Name is Adam btw.
Adam, the stars look great! The 3" is for the 113h? If so I'll take two. The shark arm only needs a bottle opener on the end ::) ;D
Now there's an idea. You cant lose a bottle opener that's part of the reel handle
How bout this...different kinds of fish?? Maybe tuna,wahoo,tarpon? There ya go a ready made business.
Threesevens,
Here's the contact info for my go-to machine shop supplies, he has LOTS of taps:
Nate's Industrial Tools Inc
22904 S Western Ave, Torrance, CA
(310) 325-6262
Leo
Man I want a shark crank arm sooooo bad!!
Quote from: Three se7ens on March 08, 2014, 10:14:40 PM
Here ya go shark hunter, test fitting the first one.
AWESOME! No bottle opener. I like it just like it is! ;) Thank you Seven. ;D
I'll have one for you Chris! Gladiator Chariots Indeed Tom! ;D
Life is GOOD!!!!!!
If you really look at it, the shark mouth is a perfect bottle opener!
Quote from: Three se7ens on March 08, 2014, 11:58:43 PM
I got the tap for the small sleeve drag stars, and it's not a very good fit. It goes on easy, but is very loose. I'll do some more research on it, as I have an idea of what it may be. A long time ago, numbered screw sizes went up to 30 something. Modern screw sizes are fractional after #12. The tap I tried that didn't work was a 13/32-32 tpi.
Good news though, I have 10 of the 3" drag stars and 1 2.5" drag star cut out of 316 stainless. I'll be tapping them for the 1/2" diameter gear sleeve this weekend. $14 plus shipping for the 2.5" and $16 plus shipping for the 3". First availability goes to the people who have already requested them in this thread, and once these are gone I will cut another batch.
Name is Adam btw.
Hi Adam,
I found a very old old text (1914) online that lists a size 26 as a .404 major diameter. Had only a 16 TPI listed. All my sleeves measure to .403 but that could be my cheapo digital caliper. I think Keta posted a .404 size.
Since 13/32 is .406 and since a class 2b fit allows ~.007 variance (approx from 7/16x32), I am surprised that 13/32 wouldn't work for a .404
BTW- I measured the thread count on the fine thread jigmaster sleeve to be 24 TPI. Is there more than one fine thread size?
I have zero experience tapping thin stainless stock but from what I read, thin stock approaching down to sheet metal thickness is supposed to have a higher percentage thread- 75% - 85% thread. But it seems that experienced machinists want a fat tap hole for stainless.
Do you think a smaller tap drill size would help?
I'm going to try to tap a star for the coarse posts with 13/32 x20 and a .358 (75%) tap drill. If it come out too loose I will be felling pretty stoopid :-)
There appears to be some confusion here regarding Penn Gear Sleeves.
The common Penn Gear Sleeve (98-60) measures 0."404 dia x 24tpi.
The common Star(10-60) is 0."104 (12swg) thick and has 2.50 full internal threads.
The tapping size for this Star is 23/64"dia.
The fine thread Gear Sleeve/Star is another kettle of fish as is the larger 98-320 Gear Sleeve/Star.
I tapped the hole using my milling machine, turning the spindle by hand. The hole was actually a little under the nominal ID for the threads, so theoretically, it should have been 100% thread depth. It wasn't even close though, far outside of the thread tolerance range. But that was on my 113hn sleeve, which measures .391 x 32 tpi. The threads look like they may be 55 degree instead of 60, which means that one may be m10 x .8. By the numbers, that's the closest match.
I don't have a .404 x 24 tpi gear sleeve, but if someone has one they can lend me, I can determine the thread. If not myself, there are a few machine shops I deal with that would be able to identify it.
My 113h has 1/2" x 32 tpi threads. I have test fit the SS stars in that size and they fit great.
Adam,
Whats the latest on these star drags?
Leo
Quote from: LTM on March 25, 2014, 07:25:28 PM
Adam,
Whats the latest on these star drags?
Leo
I have 10 drag stars for the 113h with 1/2" diameter gear sleeve ready to ship out. Still working on the other sizes, including procuring a tap for the 114H/115.
Quote from: Irish Jigger on March 11, 2014, 02:05:47 AM
There appears to be some confusion here regarding Penn Gear Sleeves.
The common Penn Gear Sleeve (98-60) measures 0."404 dia x 24tpi.
The common Star(10-60) is 0."104 (12swg) thick and has 2.50 full internal threads.
The tapping size for this Star is 23/64"dia.
The fine thread Gear Sleeve/Star is another kettle of fish as is the larger 98-320 Gear Sleeve/Star.
The confusion is all mine :) for some reason I got the thread count mixed up. Agree that the 98-60 is the sleeve that is 24 TPI. I even measured it before I posted. Don't know where the 20 TPI leaked into my brain.
If I get something to work for the 98-60 or 98-505 I will post it.
Thanks for the correction.
Nice work there guys.
Has the possibility of "thread galling" (cold welding) been considered when applying load via the star to the threads of these stainless steel components?
A proprietary molybdenum disulphide or graphite grease may be worth considering if issues are experienced.
Quote from: Irish Jigger on March 29, 2014, 12:24:08 PM
Nice work there guys.
Has the possibility of "thread galling" (cold welding) been considered when applying load via the star to the threads of these stainless steel components?
A proprietary molybdenum disulphide or graphite grease may be worth considering if issues are experienced.
Galling is primarily from localized heating of the threads due to friction, but I don't think there will be enough movement of the star to pose a problem. Any grease should be adequate.
Adam,
Let me know when you've got 4 for my 113h work horses with ss sleeves.
Good luck with the project... I like the design but I love the stainless.
Thanks
Dom
I have 8 of the 3" ones available at the moment. If you want the 2.5", I'll have more cut by the end of the week. Sal got the only 2.5" one from my last batch.
If you have something in mind for a different design, send me a drawing or pic and I'll see what I can do. I do the programming for the waterjet shop I work at.
Adam, I just received the star, thank you! The cutting is great no rough spots anywhere , you must have some nice equipment.
Now about the star, I would like to have mine in the same thickness as the stock from Penn, I'm not crazy about thin stars. Penn is 3.25mm and yours 2.60mm.
Also, the tap that you're using doesn't match the angle of the threads on the sleeve.
I'm getting 30lb with some of my custom 4/0's and I would definitely not trust your star on those, it's too wobbly and thin.
If you're going to make adjustments I would try again.
You did a great job cutting, but I rather have the shape as I showed you earlier, here is a photo:
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/custom%20parts%20for%20fishing%20reel/032_zps0ebefee4.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/custom%20parts%20for%20fishing%20reel/032_zps0ebefee4.jpg.html)
I really like the shape of the one on the right, also, 2 3/4" would be perfect for the 4/0.
Thanks for offering these, Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 03, 2014, 09:47:12 PM
Adam, I just received the star, thank you! The cutting is great no rough spots anywhere , you must have some nice equipment.
Now about the star, I would like to have mine in the same thickness as the stock from Penn, I'm not crazy about thin stars. Penn is 3.25mm and yours 2.60mm.
Also, the tap that you're using doesn't match the angle of the threads on the sleeve.
I'm getting 30lb with some of my custom 4/0's and I would definitely not trust your star on those, it's too wobbly and thin.
If you're going to make adjustments I would try again.
You did a great job cutting, but I rather have the shape as I showed you earlier, here is a photo:
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/custom%20parts%20for%20fishing%20reel/032_zps0ebefee4.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/custom%20parts%20for%20fishing%20reel/032_zps0ebefee4.jpg.html)
I really like the shape of the one on the right, also, 2 3/4" would be perfect for the 4/0.
Thanks for offering these, Sal
I'll make some adjustments to the shape. As for the thickness, I should have double checked the sheet. They were supposed to be cut from .125" sheet, but are actually measuring at .106' which is 12 gauge. My 113h star is measuring .126" and the 115 star measures .135". Next time I'll be sure they use 10 gauge, which measures .135".
The threads are correct, but the pitch diameter limit of the tap is higher than I'd like. It's GH3, and I probably need GL3 or smaller. I'm looking for a new tap anyways, as that one broke. I double checked my original 113h sleeve, and it is 32 threads per inch, using 60 degree threads. The major diameter is .496" though, which is quite low for 1/2-32.
I tried to strip one out on a gear sleeve, and is wasnt successful...
Quote from: Three se7ens on April 03, 2014, 11:01:35 PM
I tried to strip one out on a gear sleeve, and is wasnt successful...
You're absolutely right Adam, I tried a little test of my own and couldn't get it to strip also
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/custom%20parts%20for%20fishing%20reel/036_zps3303dff3.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/custom%20parts%20for%20fishing%20reel/036_zps3303dff3.jpg.html)
I'm ok with that lose fit, it will probably make adjusting the drag easier. try to make them thicker, even a little thicker than Penn's would be ok.
How about that shape that I like, could you do something similar?
Thanks! Sal
The shape is no problem. The next step we typically stock above .135" is 3/16 though, which is probably a bit thick for the smaller reels, but may work once I get a tap sourced for the buttress threads on the bigger models.
I could order an in between size, but I'm a little hesitant to drop the money on special ordering material until I know the demand is there.
The machines are incredible when they aren't broken. The one I cut those on has been down for 2 weeks though, and just got fixed yesterday, after $20k worth of new parts...
Tell your Boss we said Thanks! ;D
Quote from: Three se7ens on April 04, 2014, 01:19:31 AM
The shape is no problem. The next step we typically stock above .135" is 3/16 though, which is probably a bit thick for the smaller reels, but may work once I get a tap sourced for the buttress threads on the bigger models.
I could order an in between size, but I'm a little hesitant to drop the money on special ordering material until I know the demand is there.
The machines are incredible when they aren't broken. The one I cut those on has been down for 2 weeks though, and just got fixed yesterday, after $20k worth of new parts...
I'm hoping my star didn't cause $20K in damage ;D
My opinion is for you to use what you could get your hands on, I understand that those could get up there, I personally wouldn't pay more than what you're charging for one, not that it isn't a good price, I believe it's fair.
Demand is important, I would probably want one or two more. It might be best to see if there is an interest for those first.
Sal
I'd be in on 4 for my 113h's. Gotta take 'em to the limit!
20k, and you still wanna play with us... you're alright in my book ;)
Thanks
Dom
I'm in for 114 - 9/0 when you do those. Dominick
I'll want at least 4 4/0s.Ron
I'll take a star for my 113h as well.
Adam, the 2.5" appears to be too small for the 4/0, I'm thinking 3", what do you think?
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/custom%20parts%20for%20fishing%20reel/002_zps2470b53d.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/custom%20parts%20for%20fishing%20reel/002_zps2470b53d.jpg.html)
The 2.5" does look good on smaller reels though, as jigmasters and squidders
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/custom%20parts%20for%20fishing%20reel/005_zpse2e47adf.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/custom%20parts%20for%20fishing%20reel/005_zpse2e47adf.jpg.html)
Sal
Im in for (3) 4/0 stars of Sals design, 3" and thicker.
Thanx,
Leo
I'm in for a 113h t4nk build, let me know when you get everything dialed in and I'll send out payment.
-Bryan
Adam, I'm with Sal on this one. The 3" would be better. Are these available? If so I'll take two. Anything in the works for the 114H? And are there any ready for the 500's?
Thanks,
Bob
I've also been exchanging some emails with Jurelometer, here is what he suggested :
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/upgrades%20for%20others/salstar-250_zps2b2f2dae.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/upgrades%20for%20others/salstar-250_zps2b2f2dae.jpg.html)
Nice for us to have more involved. Keep up your excellent work guys.
AMAZING :o :o
Quote from: BMITCH on April 18, 2014, 08:49:53 AM
Adam, I'm with Sal on this one. The 3" would be better.
i think so too...
Looks great.
WOW! :o I had no interest in this at first, but that looks amazing! :P
Quote from: BMITCH on April 18, 2014, 08:49:53 AM
Adam, I'm with Sal on this one. The 3" would be better. Are these available? If so I'll take two. Anything in the works for the 114H? And are there any ready for the 500's?
Thanks,
Bob
I have 8-9 of the thin 3" ones left, waiting to be tapped. Despite the loose fit, neither Sal or I were able to strip the threads. But if you run a lot of drag, I'd hold off the the correct thickness ones anyways. I'm going to sell the rest of those off at $8 when I get another tap. I managed to break the one I had. Maybe the next one will fit a little better.
Ill touch up the drawing per Sals request and cut another batch next week.
Thanks Adam. I'll catch up with you next week ;D
Quote from: Three se7ens on April 18, 2014, 10:11:37 PM
I have 8-9 of the thin 3" ones left, waiting to be tapped. Despite the loose fit, neither Sal or I were able to strip the threads. But if you run a lot of drag, I'd hold off the the correct thickness ones anyways. I'm going to sell the rest of those off at $8 when I get another tap. I managed to break the one I had. Maybe the next one will fit a little better.
Ill touch up the drawing per Sals request and cut another batch next week.
Sounds good Adam, did you get the same tap as Dave? That one is spot on.
I'm ordering one this weekend, but his tap was gh3 just like mine. I think I may have just had a bad tap. It also broke in the middle of the shank after the second hole I tapped. The thicker material gives a far better fit on the sleeves too.
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 18, 2014, 09:47:51 AM
I've also been exchanging some emails with Jurelometer, here is what he suggested :
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/upgrades%20for%20others/salstar-250_zps2b2f2dae.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/upgrades%20for%20others/salstar-250_zps2b2f2dae.jpg.html)
Nice for us to have more involved. Keep up your excellent work guys.
Here is what they look like in the flesh.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PtmMlHNq6Ls/U2X7C7SPUmI/AAAAAAAAAuc/0wMMnGRldoY/s640/image.jpg)
I am getting better fitting threads since making a fixture and doing all my drill/tap work on the mill
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FII5h0SHuRM/U2X7D_u0RDI/AAAAAAAAAuw/9DgQzdsI110/s400/image.jpg)
Instead of this poor abused drill press setup used on the first set:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-H_POn8BbYyE/U1itQwcXS6I/AAAAAAAAAt8/ZxzsGkYDr1M/s400/image.jpg)
Also, thanks to Sal and the rest of you folks for the guidance, feedback and testing.
Jurelometer
Nice work there,like your locating fixture,very positive 8)
Beautiful work.
I mentioned a while back about breaking the first tap I got for these. Turns out, that tap was oversize anyways. The new one I'm using now is a perfect fit, with none of the looseness of the earlier ones.
I also made a reamer to get a more accurate hole before tapping. Machined from O1 tool steel, and hardened. 0.463" diameter gives a theoretical thread depth of 96%.
I'll get started on another small run of these, this time cut from .135" thick 316 stainless.
I still have 3 of the thin ones left, and ready to ship for $8 plus shipping. They measure .105" thick, but still work fine.
Wow, you guys are really on to something here. Looking forward to seeing your progressions Adam.
Keep up the fine work.
I can't wait to get a few sizes for myself, you let us know when you're ready to make a few to order. ;)
Are these stars still available?
I can have more cut, but it will probably be the end of the month before they are ready to ship. My cutter is swamped with work, and I am as well. I'll let you know when they are back in stock.
Sounds great thanks in advance
Hmmmm... One each for my 6/0, 9/0 & 12/0?
Adam, how much were these running, & which ones are you making?
Quote from: ChileRelleno on January 10, 2015, 04:22:07 AM
Hmmmm... One each for my 6/0, 9/0 & 12/0?
Adam, how much were these running, & which ones are you making?
113H only for the time being. All the larger sizes are buttress threads and will require a custom tap. I just cant justify the cost of a tap to make a handful of $20 parts. My only other option is to single point thread them in the lathe, but mine isnt setup to do that yet.
Do you have any of these for a standard 113 with black side plates?
Quote from: spc7669 on June 23, 2016, 10:37:29 PM
Do you have any of these for a standard 113 with black side plates?
I believe those use the same gear sleeve as the jigmaster and 112H, in which case I do. But someone more familiar the 113 should be able to confirm.
98-60 sleeve used in Longbeach, Jigmaster 500 & 501, 112H, 113 4/0 & others all with coarse threaded sleeve. Same star wheel fits them all. Rudy
I'll take one for the 113, jig master etc. Just need to know where to send the check. Thanks for making these awesome stars!
Patrick
Can I get one for a Jigmaster 501(98-60) sleeve? If so, lemme know how ta pay via PM. Thanks.
Gfish
I think he is redoing his software for his site. You can reach him through his email. adam@motivefab.com
Thank you, Rudy.
For those of you wanting parts, Im going to put up a list of my parts with prices in my section of the forum tonight. I have multiple designs and sizes available, and it can get a little complicated. My website being down is a pain, but having a price list posted should help in the mean time.
Gfish and Patrick, Ill send you a PM with the link once I get the post up.
Thanks again!
Thank you, three se7vens
Gfish
Quote from: Three se7ens on June 26, 2016, 01:19:03 AM
For those of you wanting parts, Im going to put up a list of my parts with prices in my section of the forum tonight.
I looked for this list but couldn't find it...maybe I was in the wrong place. I'm still drooling for one of those swept handles for Jigmaster/112.
Quote from: mo65 on June 29, 2016, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: Three se7ens on June 26, 2016, 01:19:03 AM
For those of you wanting parts, Im going to put up a list of my parts with prices in my section of the forum tonight.
I looked for this list but couldn't find it...maybe I was in the wrong place. I'm still drooling for one of those swept handles for Jigmaster/112.
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=11661.0
Im still adding parts there, but the handles and stars are on there.
Quote from: Three se7ens on June 30, 2016, 03:00:57 AM
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=11661.0
Im still adding parts there, but the handles and stars are on there.
Great! I sent you a PM...thanks. 8)
Greets,
For 113H.
I've been looking for a 3 1/4" star. The AFTCO set I already use (S-PL-1 and H-PL-1) has a 6 arm star, 3 1/4".
Brilliant! Doubt though if I'll find a second set.
That AFTCO design, remodeled with a modern, weighted, offset and articulating T would be the bee's knees.
Obviously, the thicker the better to spread the thread loadings, even though I use SS sleeves.
Great to see a proper star on a 970. I use the stars off my 113Hs.
Much better. After all, they are mainly 4/0 inside.
Whose was the tasty red handle on the 113H? The pic above that 970. Seriously meaty or show?
Is there a web I can go to for a butchers?
Rgds.
Malcolm Hayward
Malcolm,
QuoteIs there a web I can go to for a butchers?
I think you might have lost us a bit with this question? I know I don't know what you mean by "butchers"
Also, even though I'm not an admin, can you edit your post a little for language?
We have a 12 year old rule in the forums here, to keep things family friendly, and I think the "mutts" expression falls under that rule.
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=4959.0 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=4959.0)
Thanks!
Not sure Mo, but I think it means a Butcher that is carving these out.
I took care of the comment.
butchers =butchers hook=have a look
have a butchers=have a look
bloody aussies :D :D :D
cheers
Learning all kinds of Australian slang this week from different posts and emails.
Kind of neat. :)
Malcolm, you can look at Motive Fabrications offerings in his section of the For Sale part of the forum:
Quotehttp://alantani.com/index.php?board=77.0
I have been waiting for Adam to answer PM's but noting only Crickets so far. I ordered 2 handles from him. He said 2 weeks it is now 4 weeks.
Mike
Adam has a lot of irons in the fire Mike. I just got a big order of them last week. It took a while.
He always comes through in the end.
Quote from: bluefish69 on November 17, 2016, 04:33:55 PM
I have been waiting for Adam to answer PM's but noting only Crickets so far. I ordered 2 handles from him. He said 2 weeks it is now 4 weeks.
Mike
ME TOO!