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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn 99/Jigmaster/SurfMaster/Squidder Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Legal Bill on March 13, 2014, 08:43:15 PM

Title: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Legal Bill on March 13, 2014, 08:43:15 PM
Hello friends.  I have two Jigmasters and I want to get the most out of them by getting a couple of extra spools for each one.  the idea is to have one spool for trolling (probably wire or lead line), one spool for jigging (assume up to 16 oz. jigs and 50 lb test braid with mono on top) and one spool for bottom fishing (probably 20 or 30 lb test mono).  The rods and reels will always be on my boat and will be available if some unexpected opportunity presents itself or to fill in any gaps in my arsenal on a particular trip.  My question is, which spool should I get for which appliction?  I see the original chrome plated spools, plastic spools and aluminum spools on e-bay.

Thanks in advance.

Bill
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: harryk3616 on March 13, 2014, 08:56:49 PM
hi   bill      in my opinion i would stay away from the chrome spools, the chrome wears away and the spool starts turning green with corrosion, especially with wire it would wear it away real fast.  the plastic you could probably use for your bottom fishing, with wire or heavy jigs, i would recommend the stainless, some times a bit pricey , but no trouble, again that's my opinion, you'll probably get a bunch of different answers, take care , harryk
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Ron Jones on March 13, 2014, 08:59:52 PM
Because you are not casting, the two metal spools are basically interchangable with the exception of wire lining. I would use the chrome brass spool or a sleeved stainless spool for that and either of the metal ones for the other work.
Ron
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Irish Jigger on March 13, 2014, 09:57:35 PM
Anything spool but  plastic. One accidental drop can destroy them.
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Shark Hunter on March 13, 2014, 10:10:26 PM
Aluminum for the Braid and Mono. Stainless for the wire. The wire will cut into the aluminum. Stainless spools are harder to find. The tell tale sign is the brushed metal look they have.
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Legal Bill on March 14, 2014, 12:52:16 AM
I didn't even know they made a stainless spool for the Jigmaster.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Surfrat on March 25, 2014, 09:36:45 PM
I have one of those stainless steel jigmaster spool. I bought it a few years ago and thought it was a chrome spool but it is light and looks like one of the aluminum spool but it has a brushed silver metal look. ;D
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: VW on March 27, 2014, 02:28:38 PM
Here are some pics I posted on how to identify stainless spools.  I like and use them a lot.

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=8498.msg74671#msg74671 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=8498.msg74671#msg74671) near bottom of page.

Sometimes in ebay pics they appear quite polished/shiny and look like chrome.  They are constructed differently, when you know what to look for they are easily identified.  I have purchased whole reels just to get a stainless spool (plus spare parts).
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Surfrat on March 27, 2014, 05:35:55 PM
The wire will cut into the aluminum and damage the chrome spool. I recently bought a jigmaster with the aluminum spool and it came with mono. I asked many questions but when I received it, I took all the mono off and discovered the spool was previously used with wire and there are many nicks and scratches. I can see the bare aluminum. Crappy >:( :( :-\  I had tried 600 sandpaper to smooth the damages but it is not working. I am going to save money to buy a new aluminum spool.  :-\ Now it will be oatmeal and coffee for a month.  :P
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Legal Bill on April 09, 2014, 02:11:06 AM
Cannot find stainless spools.  I might buy some plastics for the wire line.  I won't have to worry about electrolosis.
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: bluefish69 on April 09, 2014, 02:21:54 AM
Plastic Spools will crack & break like Peanut Shells. We were told in the 60's don't do it & that info hasn't changed in 50 years.

Not unless you are rich & like putting wire on & off Spools

Mike
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Bryan Young on April 09, 2014, 05:10:52 AM
As far as I know the stainless steel spools came on the 500 because mine has one.   I think they came out with two versions. Stainless or red aluminum.
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Legal Bill on April 09, 2014, 12:48:40 PM
Ok Mike.  Thanks for talking me out of it. 

Bryan, they came from Penn in plastic, aluminum and chromed brass.  The chromed brass can take the punishment, but the difference in metals results in severe electrolysis.  Aluminim spools work better with the wire as far as corrosion, but get gouged up by the stainless wire.  I've been watching ebay for about three weeks straight and never see stainless jigmaster spools.  I think this is why a lot of people use lead core line with the Jigmasters.  The leadcore won't damage the aluminum.  But lead core does not go as deep as wire and doesn't jig as well. 

On paper, this seemed like a great way to solve the depth problem.  I was going to have a couple of spools with different lengths of wire line on dacron backing.  I was hoping to have spools with 100 and 200 feet of wire that I could change out depending on the depth.  This would allow me to try two or three different areas in a single trip.

Maybe I'll just try the chrome spools and see if I can make myself run out all the wire and rinse it off and let it dry and then reel it back in after every trip.
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Shark Hunter on April 09, 2014, 01:08:21 PM
Bill, I did several searches looking for those stainless spools for you. The problem with getting them is you usually have to buy the whole reel to get one. I probably have 5 Jigmasters now and three with the ss spools, only because I looked for the reels that had them. There is some good deals to be had buying the whole reel with one. I think that's the only way. :P
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Legal Bill on April 09, 2014, 02:32:58 PM
Thank you sir, I appreciate the effort.  I am also concerned that what someone thinks is stainless steel is really aluminum or chromed brass.  I saw a couple of ads where the seller "thought" the spool was stainless, but it clearly was not.
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Bucktail on April 09, 2014, 02:53:33 PM
Try covering the spools with electrical tape before loading the wire.
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Legal Bill on April 09, 2014, 06:29:22 PM
I'd be concerned that the wire would ball the tape up, but it might be worth a try.
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Rothmar2 on May 09, 2015, 04:56:46 AM
I have a SS spool for my project reel, and have been able to back the clamp nuts off from each end OK.
Any idea how to disassemble the spools from there? I would like to be able to remove the cheek pieces and remake sleeve that sits between them, as the current sleeve is pitted.
Are the cheeks pressed up onto a taper or are they an interference fit onto the arbour? There was a reasonable amount of oil under the nuts, and no sign of salt intrusion, so am pretty confident the cheeks shouldn't be seized.
Any advice much appreciated.
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Keta on May 09, 2015, 05:08:34 AM
Does this help?

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Reels/Spool_zpstkmk5t8v.jpg) (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/IGFA19Keta/media/Reels/Spool_zpstkmk5t8v.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Rothmar2 on May 09, 2015, 08:50:36 AM
How much of a tap was required to get the cheek moving, or did you support the cheek and use a press on the shaft?
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Keta on May 09, 2015, 02:05:57 PM
Support it (not on the edge) or you will warp the spool.  I used a press but a soft hammer should work.  Many lite taps work better than a few hard ones.
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Rothmar2 on May 09, 2015, 08:49:07 PM
Cheers Lee, will use the press at work then. Thanks for that.
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: STRIPER LOU on May 09, 2015, 09:43:14 PM
Hey Legal Bill,
Although its not recommended, I've been using SS wire line on aluminum spools for years. All I do every once in a while is rub a small amount of marine grease on the spool, especially on the sides and that's it! Start of with a fresh spool, grease, add your Dacron backing and your wire and your good to go. I have a large backyard and several times a season I'll stretch the line out and regrease the spool. I also keep some spray grease on the boat and hit it every once in a while when all the line is out. I have never ruined an aluminum spool yet. Keeping it clean and greased is all I've ever done to mine.

On some of my very old reels they may have a small amount of corrosion but for the use they've seen I think its minimal.
The only reason I use the aluminum is to keep the weight of the outfit as light as possible.
Again its not what most people do but been going that way for a long time.
.........................Lou
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Legal Bill on November 01, 2016, 10:57:45 PM
Thanks Lou!
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: broadway on November 04, 2016, 10:42:15 AM
Bill
   I use the chromed over spools for wire but can understand what Lou is saying about trying to keep things as light as possible.  Boeshield does a nice job on the wire and the spool. Another thing I do is every year I flip my wire around so that the bottom is now the top and the top is now the bottom.  It gets you another season out of your wire.  You will get corrosion no matter what spool you use with wire but it can be kept to a minimum by using some of the suggestions here. I would steer clear of tape because when saltwater gets under the tape it will corrode even worse than with no tape.
All the best,
Dom
Title: Re: Jigmaster spools
Post by: Legal Bill on November 16, 2016, 04:39:42 AM
Thanks Dom.  I've spooled one with lead core, which seemed to be a good compromise.