I picked up a beautiful 9/0' along with one of Dom's aluminum frames from a member here recently. Since I can't seem to leave anything well enough alone, I've already started tearing into it.
First up, SS bridge. Just test fitting now, once I get everything situated, I'll weld the gear sleeve support to the bridge.
You are putting a lot of Irons in the Fire Adam! Keep it up Buddy! ;D
Holy wow
As far as how my projects go, Im going pretty basic on this one. All SS guts, but trying not to reinvent the wheel the whole time. I do have a 12 tooth ratchet drawn up, and I started machining a brass gear sleeve to accept a separate ratchet, like the the 113hn. I also plan on machining the brass gear sleeve to 4 flats, just to see what kind of drag numbers I can get from it. Im in no rush to start cutting up my SS gear sleeve, those things aren't cheap.
When Alan Chui (aka Black Pearl) gets his revised pinion finished for the 9/0 Hex Gears. I suggest you get a set of those. It doubles the Drag Capacity. ;)
The one with the Full Gold Frame has a stainless sleeve, yoke, double dogs and springs and a Stainless Hex Gear set from Black Pearl. Stainless Arm from Lee.
I guess the only parts that aren't ss are the rings, spool and screws. ;D
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_22791_zps088bfb7a.jpg)
Your bridges look nice!!!
Quote from: Shark Hunter on April 05, 2014, 04:31:51 AM
When Alan Chui (aka Black Pearl) gets his revised pinion finished for the 9/0 Hex Gears. I suggest you get a set of those. It doubles the Drag Capacity. ;)
The one with the Full Gold Frame has a stainless sleeve, yoke, double dogs and springs and a Stainless Hex Gear set from Black Pearl. Stainless Arm from Lee.
I guess the only parts that aren't ss are the rings, spool and screws. ;D
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_22791_zps088bfb7a.jpg)
sounds like it needs a stainless bridge...
My engineers mindset has a problem with hex gears, It loads the cf washers in the wrong place. Ever wondered why pretty much every reel that comes form the factory with fixed carbon fiber washers uses half round ears instead of a hex shape? Ill be machining a standard gear for mine.
I was rounding off the small 60 size CF washers in a hex insert but when I doubled up the CF washers the problem went away. Now that we have figured out how to cut CF I will have come adapters like below cut and CF washers to fit for the small gears.
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g104/IGFA19Keta/Reels/dapter_zpsd62d73c3.jpg) (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/IGFA19Keta/media/Reels/dapter_zpsd62d73c3.jpg.html)
He offers the gears in regular drag stack configuration as well. I'm not trying to put in a plug or anything, but the Hex has been Sal tested to 50lbs. Probably 30 is all I could hold on to for any amount of Time. I can handle a 12/0 at full lock down pretty easily in a Harness and Belt on the Sand. That's probably around 25 lbs. It takes a pretty big fish to pull that Drag for any amount of time. ;)
Quote from: Shark Hunter on April 05, 2014, 04:55:11 AM
He offers the gears in regular drag stack configuration as well. I'm not trying to put in a plug or anything, but the Hex has been Sal tested to 50lbs. Probably 30 is all I could hold on to for any amount of Time. I can handle a 12/0 at full lock down pretty easily in a Harness and Belt on the Sand. That's probably around 25 lbs. It takes a pretty big fish to pull that Drag for any amount of time. ;)
The last 8' tiger i caught pulled 25 lbs for an hour. The 9 footer i caught 2 years ago pulled nearly 20 lbs for 4 hours. Im not even going to consider that 14' hammerhead without knowing I can push 40+ lbs. For the record though, 25 lbs for an hour with nothing more than a rod belt SUCKS...
Im aiming for a reel than can run 45 lbs for longer than I can, even with a bucket harness. I think a 9/0 with an aluminum frame and all SS guts is a pretty good start.
Don't take this the wrong way Adam. I'm just giving you my perspective. If you want 45 lbs of extended drag time. The 9/0 is not your Huckleberry. Even If this reel was entirely made of stainless, I don't think it has the Kahuna's. There is only one reel I want to be holding on to in the fight of my Life and that's the 14/0. I have 5 of these Bad Boys. With 1000 yard Capacity of 130lb test. One was made by Sal Himself, and Hopefully I will be putting it to the test here in a couple weeks. It has the coveted Stainless Sleeve. I kayak my baits out about a hundred yards, AJ's, Bonita, and Rays.
I am only fishing a 12 and a 14/0 on this trip. I'll be on the sand, No Boat, Just Man VS Fish!
being on a boat, i dont have to worry about line abrasion as much, as long as the shark hears away from the wreck. As for the drag, Ill find out what the reel is capable of, or the shark is capable of. If the reel is lacking, I can fix that. If the shark is lacking, then I dont have a problem :D
If I grenade the plastic side plates, Ill just have a good reason to machine some aluminum ones...
Hopefully the Shark Gods will Shine on both of Us! The main factor is being Safe and coming home with all our limbs. Good Luck to you Buddy. I mean that. ;)
I fought my 150lb tuna at 27lbs for about an hour on my DomTom'd Stock 9/0. harnessed.
then I fought another bigger one at 20lbs on a TLD 2sp for over two hours.
If your talking 8', 10' and 14' sharks!! :o :o ... Like Daron, I'd have to say leave the 9/0 home. You'll probably be under gunned.
You'd surely rather have a bigger winch than a 9/0. It'd do wonders for ya man.
When youre on a boat, the line capacity doesnt matter as much. Ive caught 6 or 7 sharks over 7' on my okume cavalla 15, spooled with 80 lb braid. I typically set the drag at 20 lbs strike and 25 lbs max on that reel, and its rare than I get even 1/3 of the spool out on that one. I lost half a spool of braid to this hammerhead last year though, and I feel like i owe it something...
Bula Adam,
I'll want to start by saying.. I can't wait to see your bridge & sleeve, and I would like IN !! Wow man.
and I'm not discounting your idea. "I think a 9/0 with an aluminum frame and all SS guts is a pretty good start."
I was basing my comment not so much on line capacity but more on advantage gained by bigger spool diameter
9/0 vs 12/0,16/0 .....the winch factor.
Spool that thing with mono instead of braid, and IF & when you lose the big ones, the price tag won't be nearly as high ;D
On the boat, If i knew I had a big shark on, I'd just park that big rig in a gunnel holder for the fight and crank that sucker in till it's time to land it. Your SS guts can handle it... so YOU won't have to ;D
Keep up the good work mate!
Nice bridge Adam! ..you guys never cease to amaze.
Eric..2hrs @20 hooked into a nice fish w/that TLD? Wow, any signs of wear for the worse on the internals? I've always hoped a nice fish would pick up a bait on one of the TLDs, course when I was fishing them we were running str8 mono and much smaller drags. You can still land a big fish, just gotta use the boat, and take your time. Too bad you lost her.
Lee, I like the look of those inserts, and thanks for the tip on doubling up on thin hex CFs, I've got some cut and may give it a try when I've got time. The stack doesn't get too 'spongy' on you? Also, any chance you could make one of those custom hex templates/cutters so I can cut more precise 6/0 washers. Mine have been rounding off, and I was thinking of buying sum thicker laminated CF, but I've still got some thin sheet left.
Adam,
just a suggestion. bring bigger guns with you "just in case" your 9/0 explodes... ;) :)
Quote from: Tightlines666 on April 05, 2014, 08:05:04 AM
Also, any chance you could make one of those custom hex templates/cutters so I can cut more precise 6/0 washers. Mine have been rounding off, and I was thinking of buying sum thicker laminated CF, but I've still got some thin sheet left.
Because they are all R&D there is a variety of versions, measure across the flats and send me a photo and I'll try. If what I send is close but not exactly right you can file it to fit.
.140 sheet is the way to go on these. If you can find it.
I have a small amount of .025" (.635mm) titanium sheet and some .020" (.508mm) stainless and I'm thinking about gluing some .020" CF to both sides and see how that works.
Nice work on the bridge!
Let us know when you are in production on these, I'll take a few!
Tom
Nice job on that bridge plate Adam.
Since you have the equipment, you should try to make one out of plexiglass, it would help find the location for the two dogs on that bridge much easier.
Quote from: Keta on April 05, 2014, 02:19:54 PM
I have a small amount of .025" (.635mm) titanium sheet and some .020" (.508mm) stainless and I'm thinking about gluing some .020" CF to both sides and see how that works.
that's an interesting idea!
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 05, 2014, 05:47:33 PM
Nice job on that bridge plate Adam.
Since you have the equipment, you should try to make one out of plexiglass, it would help find the location for the two dogs on that bridge much easier.
Just let me know what size and Thickness. That stuff is expensive if you go buy it.
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 05, 2014, 05:47:33 PM
Nice job on that bridge plate Adam.
Since you have the equipment, you should try to make one out of plexiglass, it would help find the location for the two dogs on that bridge much easier.
If you want one, I'd be happy to cut a few plexiglass ones.
I'll be cutting new dogs, so I added them into the drawing I did for the bridge.
The red is the spool inside diameter, and the outside diameter of the main gear.
The blue is the ratchet.
The teal is the new dogs.
The green is the bridge.
Nice Adam... Look at all those teeth !!! ;)
Very nice Adam, but it doesn't show if the plate needs grinding, the plexiglass would ;D.
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 05, 2014, 09:52:46 PM
Very nice Adam, but it doesn't show if the plate needs grinding, the plexiglass would ;D.
I already know it will. My side plate is solid on the side where the second dog goes. But I do plan on cutting a template for the grinding, and using my milling machine.
I think the 12 tooth ratchet works better with simultaneous dog engagement than the original 8 tooth. The engagement angle of the second dog on my drawing on the right looks less than ideal.
Handle arm finished, still trying to decide between round and t-bar handle for it.
Still working on the dogs and such, it's been frustrating trying to get the tolerances right on such small parts when the waterjet needs a new ballscrew on one axis.
I like that handle arm. Durable/strong, practicle, and it looks good. Nice job!
Your building a reel thats a thing of beauty, thanks for your post.
Quote from: Tightlines666 on May 21, 2014, 08:03:47 PM
I like that handle arm. Durable/strong, practicle, and it looks good. Nice job!
I would love to buy one.
Those silver frames sure are pretty ;D
That handle makes them even prettier ;)
Dom
Looks Good Adam! Nice Job! ;D
Quote from: Three se7ens on May 22, 2014, 03:45:40 AM
Those silver frames sure are pretty...
You betcha... no matter which side you put in front!
And I just got the very last one from Mr. Shark... yay! ;D
~A~
Quote from: Aiala on May 22, 2014, 03:26:50 PM
Quote from: Three se7ens on May 22, 2014, 03:45:40 AM
Those silver frames sure are pretty...
You betcha... no matter which side you put in front!
And I just got the very last one from Mr. Shark... yay! ;D
~A~
With the frame turned the other way, line will rub on the frame for about the bottom 1/4 of the spool.
That's what I thought, too, but the guys told me to reverse it, so I did. But in any case, I've never been spooled that low, so I don't anticipate difficulties. :)
~A~
The frame is better than your hand.
Quote from: Alto Mare on May 22, 2014, 04:26:51 PM
The frame is better than your hand.
Indeed. I am actually rather attached to my fingerprints. (http://forums.snapstream.com/vb/images/smilies/wink.gif)
~A~
Little more progress. Triple dog bridge is in, and ready for testing. I can't get over how easy it was to put this reel back together with the dogs attached to the bridge. Just stack the gear and drag on the bridge, set into the side plate, and you're good to go. Very little grinding was required to clear the additional dogs, probably less than with the usual double dog install. Naturally, there is very little back play on the handle with the 3 alternating dogs. And the new grip matches the frame quite well.
I'm eagerly awaiting a chance to fish it. Guess I better get some line put on it.
Adam, beautiful reel. This is what I came up with for my 4/0 with triple dogs. Sounds awsome!
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/MITSERVCS/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-01/EA594F22-F832-47BC-9293-F2114F1CB5C9_zpsvyiewct1.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/MITSERVCS/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-01/EA594F22-F832-47BC-9293-F2114F1CB5C9_zpsvyiewct1.jpg.html)
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/MITSERVCS/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-01/A80711F4-EFAD-4DD3-8C0C-1E06DDEB5392_zps9hyluuhw.jpg) (http://s1278.photobucket.com/user/MITSERVCS/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-01/A80711F4-EFAD-4DD3-8C0C-1E06DDEB5392_zps9hyluuhw.jpg.html)
Very nice stuff you guy's are something else! :o
Bula Adam !
are you going to be able to make some of those ss bridges and arms available?
Really nice work man. :D
The arms for sure. I'd like to offer the bridge, but I'll have to see.
I'm in on the arms, too! I've got 4 frames that could use those bridges...You do nice work, Adam.
Erik, you're gonna have the sickest upgraded Senators in all of Fiji ...if you don't already. ;)
Hope your well, pal.
Dom
You mean this Bridge? ;)
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_24241_zpsc7bef0cf.jpg)
I would be interested in a few of both, and I'm sure there many others on here with interest :)
Put me on the list!
If you're interested in the handle arms, put your name on the list here. I'm putting in an order next week for them.
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=10632.0