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Title: Stripers have begun
Post by: Capt Ahab on April 07, 2014, 09:56:38 AM
Remote location in Northern DE

7' St. Croix Premier
Revo SS Spinner
Brroken Back Bomber at night - Ohhh yeah


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Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Alto Mare on April 07, 2014, 10:13:52 AM
Nice capt! I'm guessing 38" and just about the same in weight, it's a fat one. Thanks for sharing, Sal
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on April 07, 2014, 11:43:32 AM
do i miss the NE? !@#$ YEAH! niiiiiiice, thanks for sharing... 8)
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: SacFly on April 07, 2014, 01:12:38 PM
Nice work.  I went out one night last week, but got skunked.  I'll try again this week.  There are whispers of fish being caught on Long Island already....
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Capt Ahab on April 07, 2014, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 07, 2014, 10:13:52 AM
Nice capt! I'm guessing 38" and just about the same in weight, it's a fat one. Thanks for sharing, Sal


Yeah right around there - no formal measurements
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Bryan Young on April 07, 2014, 03:26:53 PM
Sweet Capt. 

By the way, when I've gone striper fishing here in California, when hooked, they spin like an aligator death roll, and if I recall, in a clockwise direction.  Do they do the same in the east?

Used to mess up my line because I have fished fly-lining live anchovies...just hook and anchovies...no swivel or anything.  Was fun though.  New line on every trip.
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Capt Ahab on April 08, 2014, 12:41:37 AM
Quote from: Bryan Young on April 07, 2014, 03:26:53 PM
Sweet Capt. 

By the way, when I've gone striper fishing here in California, when hooked, they spin like an aligator death roll, and if I recall, in a clockwise direction.  Do they do the same in the east?



Never - they make decent runs, bulldog head shakes  - never had one roll? Never heard of one rolling like that

We are talking Striped bass (aka Rockfish) correct???
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Alto Mare on April 08, 2014, 01:19:47 AM
Yeah, most times they'll come in with very little fight, can't say that about Blues.

No rolling Bry Bry...no more beer for you when striper fishing ;D.
You know, its really called stripper fishing, but somehow that doesn't sound right together with beer. :-\
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Bryan Young on April 08, 2014, 02:52:06 AM
I'm taking about striper fishing.  We come out of San Francisco ban and head down the coast and back the boat into the surf, cast our lines out and pull the boat out of the surf then wait for the stripes to come through and wham the fun begins.
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: BMITCH on April 08, 2014, 09:23:22 AM
Bryan, maybe your line is actually hitting the gill plate? Pretty darn sharp, could chew up the line. Maybe?
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Capt Ahab on April 08, 2014, 11:48:28 AM
That is crazy that the west coast stripers will roll and act so much differently then their east coast ancestors


They are all from the same stock - must be something in the water?




Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Bucktail on April 08, 2014, 06:06:30 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on April 07, 2014, 03:26:53 PM
Sweet Capt.  

By the way, when I've gone striper fishing here in California, when hooked, they spin like an aligator death roll, and if I recall, in a clockwise direction.  Do they do the same in the east?

Used to mess up my line because I have fished fly-lining live anchovies...just hook and anchovies...no swivel or anything.  Was fun though.  New line on every trip.

I've never experienced a striper spinning like that. 

Sal, you don't think stripers fight?  In my experience they fight differently than a bluefish, but they definitely fight hard.  Love striper fishing!
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: philaroman on April 08, 2014, 06:37:37 PM
actually, that happens sometimes w/ transplanted species -- they may all be descended from a relatively small brood stock; some unusual trait may get reinforced through inbreeding; & cause behavior that's drastically different from populations, elsewhere

look at the Asian Silver Carp invading North America: they're all descended from a small group of some weird, extra-skittish strain; go psycho at the sound of a boat motor & jump several feet in the air (in some areas they have virtually shut down recreational boating, due to injuries -- imagine running into a 20-40# hard-headed fish @ 20mph) NONE of the Silver Carp in Asia do that!

in other words, Bryan, your Stripers are probably inbred mutants  :o  ...just bad stocking practices, I guess: your DNR probably "squeezed" all the introductions out of the same small brood stock.  Instead, they should have used several different genetic variations, from different geographical areas of the native range.  as I understand, Delaware Stripers are slightly different from Chesapeake Stripers, slightly different from NE Stripers, and so on...  and none of them roll like gaters   :-\
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Bryan Young on April 08, 2014, 06:51:23 PM
Then you guys would love these.  It's fun fighting a rolling fish trying to unlodge the hook by rolling. 

These stripers run in the surf looking for bait fish to eat, and maybe the rolling is from their tumbling in the surf.  Interesting though.

I gotta so striper fishing and film the catch next time.
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Bucktail on April 08, 2014, 08:40:00 PM
That rolling sounds like the way a dogfish fights and tangles itself up your line. :P
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Capt Ahab on April 09, 2014, 12:23:15 AM
Quote from: Bryan Young on April 08, 2014, 06:51:23 PM

I gotta so striper fishing and film the catch next time.

Can I come :)
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Bryan Young on April 09, 2014, 12:26:11 AM
Sure. They are not running now though.
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: OSIRIS631 on April 24, 2014, 08:45:40 PM
Quote from: SacFly on April 07, 2014, 01:12:38 PM
Nice work.  I went out one night last week, but got skunked.  I'll try again this week.  There are whispers of fish being caught on Long Island already....

Sacfly hit little neck bay.... all the way in the back.. by Bass beach.

fishing is hot right know.  Had  two keepers today.

John
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Alto Mare on April 24, 2014, 09:47:10 PM
Nice john, post some pictures sometime, we like to see them. What gear were you using?
Sal
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: thinket on April 24, 2014, 10:26:28 PM
I'm here in cali & I've never experienced spiraling/rolling stripers.  I fish san luis reservoir & the delta. the bigger fish 18-25+lbs stripers are MEAN. they'll run hard and look to wrap you in structure.  in my experience, the only fish in that size range that fights harder is albacore tuna
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: OSIRIS631 on April 25, 2014, 01:22:43 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on April 24, 2014, 09:47:10 PM
Nice john, post some pictures sometime, we like to see them. What gear were you using?
Sal

Sal I was using that Penn Z that you worked on for me....its become my favorite spinning reel... cant believe its so nice and smooth.. I was using the white buck hair spro jig with white grub in 1 oz size.

John
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on May 28, 2014, 02:49:37 PM
CA striped bass' history;

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/fish/Resources/Striped_Bass/History.asp

Where I live, Inland Empire CA, you can fish for stripers in the reservoirs.
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: broadway on May 28, 2014, 03:06:25 PM
Nice fish! It's closer to 22-25 lbs ....if it's 38"
Keep it up, Capt.  Be safe on those rocks and make sure the Korkers are in good shape.
Stay well,
Dom
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Ron Jones on May 28, 2014, 06:56:43 PM
ML B,
Where are you in the valley? I gre up in Cucamonga.
Ron
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on May 28, 2014, 07:07:59 PM
Quote from: noyb72 on May 28, 2014, 06:56:43 PM
ML B,
Where are you in the valley? I gre up in Cucamonga.
Ron

Hemet, Diamond Valley Lake is my "backyard". Also Lakes Perris and Hemet are not that far...
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Capt Ahab on May 29, 2014, 12:39:54 AM
Quote from: mrbrklyn on May 28, 2014, 11:59:49 AM
Quote from: thinket on April 24, 2014, 10:26:28 PM
I'm here in cali & I've never experienced spiraling/rolling stripers.  I fish san luis reservoir & the delta. the bigger fish 18-25+lbs stripers are MEAN. they'll run hard and look to wrap you in structure.  in my experience, the only fish in that size range that fights harder is albacore tuna

I'm confused.  Striuped bass were purposefully introduced to the Pacific?


Yes - they actually took them across the county in water filled Railroad cars and stocked them in Cali


Actually the bass came from the Raritian bay - same as many of the fish I catch today!


http://www.fishsniffer.com/species/details/stripers/

Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Capt Ahab on May 29, 2014, 12:59:13 PM
Quote from: mrbrklyn on May 29, 2014, 12:48:07 AM
that is not too smart.  Just what you need is an invading fish in Pacific california waters.

I agree - but in 1879 I think this was viewed a little differently

In this case it worked - made for a huge commercial fishery and now a huge rec. fishery as well
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Ron Jones on May 29, 2014, 07:47:11 PM
There weren't any steelhead in the Great Lakes before man had his way either. Now the fishery is huge.
Ron
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: SacFly on June 13, 2014, 06:05:56 AM
Quote from: mrbrklyn on May 29, 2014, 08:42:06 PM
It is what it is, I guess.  It is weird for the east coast ecologists yelling that the stripers are going extinct when they seem to have been exported to fresh water and salt water environments nearly everywhere in North America.

I think it's more a matter that the people who fish for stripers really love the fishery and it was fished into the danger zone once before.  The Chesapeake Bay is in decline, the Hudson may be improving but that's only because it was such a cesspool previously.  Big breeders get pounded every year from Mass to North Carolina. 

I've only been fishing the salt for 7 years and I feel like I've seen a decline. Old timers say it looks similar to before the last crash.  Small fish, big fish, and not enough in between.  Last fall I talked to some guys in Montauk who have been fishing there 50 years, and it was the worst they could remember.

On a related note, last week I caught one behind Robert Moses with the worst myco/skin disease I've ever seen.  It's apparently a big problem down south, but I've seen relatively little of it on Long Island.  This fish looked unhealthy.  It was sad.
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: SacFly on June 13, 2014, 12:16:14 PM
Quote from: mrbrklyn on June 13, 2014, 09:37:35 AM
If these fish die out of their Atlantic east coast habitat, it will be 100% because of pollution.

Sorry about referring to the Hudson as a cesspool.  I actually meant hazardous waste site.  NY blight indeed.
http://www.epa.gov/hudson/cleanup.html#quest1

The tone of your post is so adversarial I'm not sure exactly how to respond.  I would never draw conclusions based solely on my limited experience, but I fish with guys who have been at it on Long Island and the NJ coast for 30,40,50 years.  Some are meat fishermen and some are conservationists. Personally I'm a little bit of both. I don't think any of them would say the fishery is in great shape right now. 

You may blame this 100% on pollution.  I would say that given the problems caused by pollution, which are only going to get worse, managing the fishery properly becomes even more important.  I don't trust those currently in charge of this to get it right.

Please don't try to paint me as a PETA guy.  I had venison for dinner last night and am having porgy for lunch today.  I am, however, invested in this fishery as I've chosen to make NY my home and hope to be fishing it for the next 30 or 40 years.  I would support any rational approach that is geared towards a healthy, sustainable fishery.

What I would really like to see is unbiased science identifying the prime breeders and then slot limits that protect those fish specifically. Eat the eaters and let the best breeders breed.  Explain to me why that wouldn't work, and what would work better, and I'm all ears.
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: SacFly on June 13, 2014, 12:42:18 PM
Enjoy the rest of the spring run, mrbrklyn. 
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Capt Ahab on June 13, 2014, 09:04:04 PM
I agree and disagree


And Instead I am going fishing


Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Ron Jones on June 13, 2014, 10:33:31 PM
That referenced list is odd. Unless their is a Castaic and Silverwood lake in Ca, Fl, and Ab, then the states are mixed up. I've fished Silverwood stripers all my life, and I believe they are in Castaic also. Both the lakes I mentioned are in Ca.

All I know is, there are plenty of stripers where I fiish for them (the left coast and lakes,) and I really enjoy eating them. Especially out of the Colorado down by the Mexican border.
Ron
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Alto Mare on June 13, 2014, 11:25:30 PM
Quote from: Capt Ahab on June 13, 2014, 09:04:04 PM
I agree and disagree

And Instead I am going fishing
Good call ;)
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Bucktail on June 14, 2014, 06:11:49 AM
Looks like you've got some anger issues to deal with mrbrklyn. ::)  You believe your knowledge of striped bass is so superior to all others you now have the right to resort to name calling?   Just because you've been on a couple of party boats and have learned how to copy and paste from Google doesn't make you an expert.  There are many who see a trending decline in the striper populations on the east coast.  You certainly don't know it all.  You should have a little respect for other member's opinions.
Title: Re: Stripers have begun
Post by: Aiala on June 14, 2014, 02:48:25 PM
Quote from: Bucktail on June 14, 2014, 06:11:49 AM
Looks like you've got some anger issues to deal with mrbrklyn. ::)  You believe your knowledge of striped bass is so superior to all others you now have the right to resort to name calling?   Just because you've been on a couple of party boats and have learned how to copy and paste from Google doesn't make you an expert.  There are many who see a trending decline in the striper populations on the east coast.  You certainly don't know it all. You should have a little respect for other member's opinions.

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