Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: Three se7ens on May 22, 2014, 05:13:25 AM

Title: Triple dog dare
Post by: Three se7ens on May 22, 2014, 05:13:25 AM
Heres a little sneak peek at a project I'm working on.  Still need to machine a stem before I can put it in a reel for testing.
Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: Ron Jones on May 22, 2014, 05:16:09 AM
WOW!!
Ron
Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: Three se7ens on May 26, 2014, 04:23:18 AM
Little more progress on it.  Sure does sound nice with the alternating dogs
Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: Dominick on May 26, 2014, 04:31:56 AM
I got 3      I got 3    I got 3    I got 3 gimme 4 gimme 4 come folks gimme 4 going once going twice, we got 3.
That's it.  :D :D Dominick
Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: Ron Jones on May 26, 2014, 05:07:09 AM
Very nice. I've gone with Alan's, but that one is going to be cool.
Ron
Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: Three se7ens on May 26, 2014, 05:23:46 AM
This is for my 9/0.
Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: erikpowell on May 26, 2014, 08:06:34 AM
Rat a Tat Tat ......  ;D ;D
That's gonna sound awesome!
Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: Tightlines667 on May 26, 2014, 08:57:14 AM
I like the fact the springs are arranged at right angles and the load will be relatively close to bolts (except one is likely to take a little more force over time.  I would think given that the reel handle is often in the down position when under max strain, it might make sense to try to ensure a dog (preferably close to an anchor point) engages here?  I don't know, just a thought. 

Nice job!
Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: Three se7ens on May 31, 2014, 05:35:10 AM
Quote from: Tightlines666 on May 26, 2014, 08:57:14 AM
I like the fact the springs are arranged at right angles and the load will be relatively close to bolts (except one is likely to take a little more force over time.  I would think given that the reel handle is often in the down position when under max strain, it might make sense to try to ensure a dog (preferably close to an anchor point) engages here?  I don't know, just a thought. 

Nice job!

The springs all undergo the same amount of compression and extension.  I designed it in CAD such that the center of the spring is the same distance from the pivot of the dog for all 3 dogs.  Since that picture, I changed out the springs for lighter ones, the original ones were far stronger than I had wanted.  It sounded like the clicker was left on.  I didn't want the extra wear with everything being stainless. 

Every 15 degrees of handle rotation, a dog is engaged.  There really is not much back play in the handle, it's easily comparable to modern reels without an instant AR bearing.

The side plate needs only minimal grinding to fit this bridge with the 3 dogs. 

Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: Alto Mare on May 31, 2014, 10:13:31 AM
Very nice work Adam, you have lots of talent. Thanks for sharing it with us, I know that one day we will all benefit from them.
All you need to do now is to actually make us some ;D , I've noticed that you're bouncing from one project to another and not much production, but that could also be a good thing.
On the pic of the 9/0 plate, it appears if you use two of the dogs there is no need to grind the plate is this correct? Not nocking your triple dogs, just a curiosity.
On another note, I know that there where talks about parts for the SS spinner, ratchets and dogs, is anything happening there? I've been getting emails from some wanting those, is anyone making them?
Keep that flame burning Adam ;)

Sal
Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: Shark Hunter on May 31, 2014, 12:44:52 PM
Good Job Adam. ;D
Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: Three se7ens on May 31, 2014, 03:47:00 PM
I had cut these parts a few weeks ago, but couldn't do anything until I found the right springs.  The first ones were really stiff, but the ones I have now are perfect. 

I started a new job this week, so the last few weeks were hectic trying to get all my drawings from work backed up, and getting some of my projects cut before I left the old job.  I wanted to get as many of the prototypes done as I could, because I can always order more parts now that the drawings are saved.

There is an update in the penn spinner dog thread, and hopefully I'll be able to have them cut at my new job without the problems I was having.

The side with 2 dogs was solid, so you have to grind to fit even just one of them, as well as grind a small notch in the other side to clear the spring.
Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: Alto Mare on May 31, 2014, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: Three se7ens on May 31, 2014, 03:47:00 PM

The side with 2 dogs was solid, so you have to grind to fit even just one of them, as well as grind a small notch in the other side to clear the spring.
Yes you're right, I was thinking 4/0 plate for left or right. Nevertheless, the 9/0 is much easier to grind than the smaller reels, not a big deal... considering
Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: Three se7ens on September 06, 2014, 11:07:39 PM
Now that I've got a few projects out of the way, I'm going to start working on this a bit more.  Next step, I need a few people interested in testing these, as I probably won't get to fish mine until next summer.  Any takers? 
Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: gstours on September 07, 2014, 04:21:55 AM
Thanks for sharing the info,  your work is top notch for experimenting.......great pictures,  a great winter project I,m thinkin, of a few right now!!!
Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: Shark Hunter on September 07, 2014, 04:23:50 AM
Quote from: Three se7ens on September 06, 2014, 11:07:39 PM
Now that I've got a few projects out of the way, I'm going to start working on this a bit more.  Next step, I need a few people interested in testing these, as I probably won't get to fish mine until next summer.  Any takers? 
I'm your Huckleberry! ;)
Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: Three se7ens on September 07, 2014, 04:40:17 AM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on September 07, 2014, 04:23:50 AM
Quote from: Three se7ens on September 06, 2014, 11:07:39 PM
Now that I've got a few projects out of the way, I'm going to start working on this a bit more.  Next step, I need a few people interested in testing these, as I probably won't get to fish mine until next summer.  Any takers? 
I'm your Huckleberry! ;)

I figured you'd be the first to jump on this ;) The first one is yours.  I'd still like another 2-3 people to test, especially people who run high drag, and even better if you have a set of Alan's SS gears and can really push the drag.

I'm looking at about 2 weeks before these testers are ready to ship.  In addition to the parts, I'll also include a template for grinding the side plate. 
Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: erikpowell on September 07, 2014, 07:20:56 AM
Bula!
I've got 2 Dom/Tom 9/0's on year round duty here Adam...and 3 more on deck.  I'll guinea pig for ya too!
Plus, I'll meet up with Daron over Halloween and be back fishing here after Thanksgiving.  ;)
Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: Fishit 2 on May 25, 2015, 05:37:16 PM
Anymore progress on this? How about some SS dogs and clicjer for the Penn Spinfishers 704z and 706z?
Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: Three se7ens on May 27, 2015, 12:27:23 AM
Its not going to be any time soon, I have too many projects going on. 
Title: Re: Triple dog dare
Post by: steelfish on May 27, 2015, 05:36:55 AM
Quote from: Dominick on May 26, 2014, 04:31:56 AM
I got 3      I got 3    I got 3    I got 3 gimme 4 gimme 4 come folks gimme 4 going once going twice, we got 3.
That's it.  :D :D Dominick

this was a nice one..LOL