I took one of the Pro Challenger bridges from Black Pearl and put it in my 112h tonight. I had the upper bridge screw holes tig welded, ground the welds flat and drilled and re tapped them for the 112h. I ran into a problem with one of the dogs. One of the upper bridge screws was too close to the dog pin for the dog to work on one side. I just used a 112h dog on that side and did away with the pins. It has double dogs and a stainless steel bridge now. I will post some pics tomorrow.
Bob
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Jigmaster bridge on the left. Stainless bridge in the center. The dog is visible sticking out under the gear. 112h bridge on the right.
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I had to grind the back of the plate to clear the dog on the bridge.
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Bridge installed in 112h side plate.
Good work Bob!
Sure is quiet around here with everybody gone fishing. :-\
Now get out there and catch me some Shark bait! ;D
Great! I have a 112HN project that I'm a year into and haven't finished. I had trouble getting the double dog to work, and then when the problems showed up with the BP gears, I put it aside to finish later. It's still in pieces, and I don't know what to do about the gears.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on June 17, 2014, 04:49:04 AM
Good work Bob!
Sure is quiet around here with everybody gone fishing. :-\
Now get out there and catch me some Shark bait! ;D
Hi... Yeah, I've noticed how quiet the site is.
BTW, I picked up the aluminum spool, ball bearing 115L to finish that project. Also scored some crimpers last night.
Did you get the Billfisher ones?
Way to go Bob, when you mentioned it to me I knew that you were going to get her done. ;)
This will help us determine if it is the bridge or the larger diameter spool that are stripping the gears at 15lbs.
Next, you will need to test it with the latest Black Pearl's gears, but you will also need the spacer...if you don't mind.
Thanks for doing this for us buddy.
Sal
Quote from: floating doc on June 17, 2014, 05:00:49 AM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on June 17, 2014, 04:49:04 AM
Good work Bob!
Sure is quiet around here with everybody gone fishing. :-\
Now get out there and catch me some Shark bait! ;D
Hi... Yeah, I've noticed how quiet the site is.
BTW, I picked up the aluminum spool, ball bearing 115L to finish that project. Also scored some crimpers last night.
Guys, I've noticed that WE keep deviating on a few posts, please lets try to stay focused and answer only questions related to the post, yes me included ;D. This should minimize confusion with the newer guys. Thanks! Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on June 17, 2014, 09:33:28 AM
Way to go Bob, when you mentioned it to me I knew that you were going to get her done. ;)
This will help us determine if it is the bridge or the larger diameter spool that are stripping the gears at 15lbs.
Next, you will need to test it with the latest Black Pearl's gears, but you will also need the spacer...if you don't mind.
Thanks for doing this for us buddy.
Sal
Good stuff Bob. Nice work! Only problem with you testing the gears is that now Sal has to ship the wagon and bricks down to you!
;D ;D...
I'm sure Bob could get creative, all he needs is anything that would generate over 15lb while turning the handle. tying a cat by its tail might work ;D.
I'll just send it to Sal. He can abuse it as long as he needs to. I have plenty of reels. Too many have never been fished. I do have a set of gears on order from Black Pearl. Bob
It would be great to solve the gear problem with the 112h. :)
Oh, and thanks for the reminder to avoid the "threadjacking". Good point.
The reel is on its way to Sal. It will be interesting to see if it makes any difference. I'm as guilty as anyone when it comes to thread jacking. I honestly don't think about it. I will try to be better myself. ;) I don't take offence when it happens to me. If I offended anyone in the past please accept my apology. Bob
Quote from: Cone on June 18, 2014, 08:17:28 PM
The reel is on its way to Sal. It will be interesting to see if it makes any difference. I'm as guilty as anyone when it comes to thread jacking. I honestly don't think about it. I will try to be better myself. ;) I don't take offence when it happens to me. If I offended anyone in the past please accept my apology. Bob
Bob,
You know what is going to happen if you 112H with my Jigmaster SS bridge works with the Jigmaster 5:1 SS gear set and sleeve spacer, it means that few people will ask me to come out with the Jigmaster's bridge with no dog and new upper plate screw holes, so it can install in the 112H.
Sal, you know that you will have to send me a 112H original bridge if Bob's reel works with the new 5:1 gear set.
Thanks,
--Alan
Alan, If it does work, you can take my modified bridge to use. I'm willing to help any way I can. Thanks again for making these parts available.
Bob
Quote from: Black Pearl on June 18, 2014, 08:40:53 PM
Bob,
You know what is going to happen if you 112H with my Jigmaster SS bridge works with the Jigmaster 5:1 SS gear set and sleeve spacer, it means that few people will ask me to come out with the Jigmaster's bridge with no dog and new upper plate screw holes, so it can install in the 112H.
Sal, you know that you will have to send me a 112H original bridge if Bob's reel works with the new 5:1 gear set.
Thanks,
--Alan
Not a problem Alan, but if you take a closer look, you might already have one.
Quote from: Cone on June 18, 2014, 10:11:23 PM
Alan, If it does work, you can take my modified bridge to use. I'm willing to help any way I can. Thanks again for making these parts available.
Bob
Thanks for always helping out buddy. ;)
I have a 112HN that I was building for the new gears. I haven't finished it, in part due to the difficulty of getting a second dog to work, but also because of the problems with the gears.
If you think it would be useful to run the tests on a narrow reel with a one piece frame, I'll send it.
Quote from: floating doc on June 19, 2014, 02:54:37 AM
I have a 112HN that I was building for the new gears. I haven't finished it, in part due to the difficulty of getting a second dog to work, but also because of the problems with the gears.
If you think it would be useful to run the tests on a narrow reel with a one piece frame, I'll send it.
Doc, I believe you asked me that question earlier and somehow never answered you, sorry.
My reels that I test take a beating, and so do my rods, I would never use anyone else reel for that reason.
My narrow 112H kit cost me $165 and it got scratched up pretty bad, that one was brand new.
I'm not complaining, I don't mind doing what I do.
Also, there is never a need to send me a Senator, I have many of each, and I mean many ;D.
Bob could have sent just the bridge, but he wanted to send the reel along, I didn't bother arguing, I knew I would lose. This man makes it very hard to get even with him. ;D
About that second dog that is giving you a hard time, send it over and I'll take care of it.
On the 112H I usually drill a hole and install a pin to hold the spring, if you're not crazy about me drilling a hole, don't send it.
Sal
Thanks, I'll follow up with you soon.
Bob, you did a great job on that bridge and plate, even if we had to grind our own plate, it's only a tiny bit.
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I installed the gears and sleeve that I'm showing on the right, yes, all of my reels have a delrin washer for under the gear ;D
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got my trusty wagon out and unfortunately the same thing happened with the gears, they failed at 14lbs.
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So, the problem isn't with the bridge. As someone else mentioned earlier, I also believe the larger diameter spool is causing it.
Thank you Bob for doing this for us, all is not lost, I would love to have Alan make us some bridge as you did, so we can use with the new 4:1 gears that my buddy WILL FOR SURE MAKE FOR US ...right Alan? ;D
Bob, I will put the reel back together and send it right out, thanks again.
Sal
At least we know it's not the bridge. I really had my doubts about it helping. Thanks for the time and trouble testing it. To be honest I don't see me using it above 10 lbs of drag. No hurry on the reel. I have a 501 that I magged on a custom rod. I hope i can one day learn to cast a conventional. ;D Did I ever mention I grew up with spinners? We only used conventionals for bottom fishing or trolling. At least the reel will have more stainless parts. Thats a good thing to me. Bob
Bob,
When I'm down in September, Mike is pretty good at casting a 4/0. ;)
The reel was ready to ship, I'm going to open the box back up and give him something special in that reel. He'll be able to cast like a pro when I'm done with it ;D.
Any help is appreciated. Sal, don't bother. I really need practice. It's just too easy to grab a spinner if I need to make a cast. Old habits die hard!
I'm ordering my 4:1 gears right now! ;D