I go boat fishing a few times a week in the summer. When I'm done I usually just leave my gear in the car overnight if I plan to fish again in the next day or so. Will this affect the performance or longevity of my reels? Sometimes it gets really hot in there.
your biggest issue will be the your line will degrade.
Quote from: fatstriper on June 24, 2014, 05:13:10 PM
When I'm done I usually just leave my gear in the car overnight if I plan to fish again in the next day or so. Will this affect the performance or longevity of my reels? Sometimes it gets really hot in there.
Here in Hawaii, the cars also get very hot. As long as you wash or rinse it down with fresh water, I don't think the heat itself will affect the performance.
On the other hand, in terms of longevity of the reels.....I would be very careful with leaving them in the car overnight. I'm not worried about salt and corrosion, I'm worried about car theives. It just takes seconds for someone to break in and now you're in the need to go shopping again. >:( :'(
Quote from: Bryan Young on June 24, 2014, 07:00:09 PM
your biggest issue will be the your line will degrade.
Would only mono be affected by heat? I use some mono but mainly Powerpro. I'm not too concerned with mono because I replace it often but braid isn't cheap. Will Dacron degrade?
I'm am not too worried with theft, as I have a pretty secure driveway. I have a melted cap on my Baitrunner 4500. It made me think that plastic components could melt or that things could warp.
Mainly with mono and fluorocarbon.
Depending on how hot it gets, I would be concerned about the life expectancy of the reel. Any heat will degrade polymeric materials.
I wouldn't do it. I have to take them in after a days fishing to give them a shower anyway. Most of my rods are rollers, so I have to take extra special care of them. I don't want a roller to lock up when I get a big fish on.
Plus, it would worry me leaving them in the truck. I just don't think its a good idea, and I sleep better. ;)
Quote from: Bryan Young on June 24, 2014, 08:37:05 PM
Mainly with mono and fluorocarbon.
Depending on how hot it gets, I would be concerned about the life expectancy of the reel. Any heat will degrade polymeric materials.
It's been about 80F here so it's way hotter in the car. I should probably build a rack in the garage. I have a pinched nerve in my back and I do all of the boat stuff myself (anchors, docking, hauling gear). Taking the rods out of the car is just another hassle. Especially, if I'm just going to load them in again in the morning. Just one more thing to do after a 12 hour day on the water.
I care about my stuff a lot but when I'm in pain you know how it goes. I have been washing them down at the dock before loading them in the vehicle. I wish I had a bigger boat where I could lock everything inside.
Older rods can be affected by the heat and become brittle.
Quote from: fatstriper on June 24, 2014, 08:22:29 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on June 24, 2014, 07:00:09 PM
your biggest issue will be the your line will degrade.
Will Dacron degrade?
Dacron, very much so, Spectra, not so much.
Also, the grease in the reel would get really runny and drip all over
That sounds like experience talking. ;D
DayOne,
I figured it'd be the other way around. I have used 15 year old dacron (not on my reels) for backing on wire line and never had an issue. After sitting in the sun that wire gets pretty hot and is covered in salt.
I've had braid 50 lb. braid (green power pro) break down to where I could pull it and snap it with my hands without cutting a finger off in less than 5 years.
Why would the heat deteriorate dacron and not braid (so much)?
Just asking, Thanks
Dom
Thanks for the input guys. I'm going to stop leaving them in there.
I need to start building a rod rack now.
Quote from: broadway on June 25, 2014, 02:08:33 AM
DayOne,
I figured it'd be the other way around. I have used 15 year old dacron (not on my reels) for backing on wire line and never had an issue. After sitting in the sun that wire gets pretty hot and is covered in salt.
I've had braid 50 lb. braid (green power pro) break down to where I could pull it and snap it with my hands without cutting a finger off in less than 5 years.
Why would the heat deteriorate dacron and not braid (so much)?
Just asking, Thanks
Dom
Actually, sunlight degrades Dacron more than heat. Used as backing, the mono or wire protects it. As for the Power Pro, there are so many stories of it breaking and degrading, especially the pre Shimano stuff, I wouldn't use it as an example. Spectra is considered UV resistant, however, heat can damage it but it takes some pretty good heat. That is why you should never spool it by putting pressure on the line itself. It should be spooled by putting pressure on the spool of line. Around here, cars can easily get over 150 degrees inside in the summer.
I was at my local area tackle shop the other day wasting time before work. A guy brought in a shimano CI4 complaining about the line roller. All the red anodized accent parts on the reel were...pink. The shop owner called it sun burned and said he never saw a reel so washed out by the sun, even those of guides that sit in the sun in a rack day in day out. The CI4 material that made the body had turned gray, sort of hazy. It was 96* yesterday, 94* expected today. Its gets over 160* inside a vehicle if I recall my emergency training right. That has to do something to line, grease, oil and non metal parts.
Looks like I've got some testing to do. Power Pro has had issues, which is why I no longer use it.
Thanks,
Dom
Somewhat of a digression from topic, but one often hears rumors of Dacron being susceptible to UV or thermal degradation. Both are largely exaggerated. Dacron (= polyester) has excellent resistance to UV rays, and excellent resistance to high temperature. Far greater than Nylon monofilament, for example. Spectra or Dyneema line is considered more resistant to UV rays, but less resistant to heat.
More general info for example:
http://www.christinedemerchant.com/rope_material_hmpe.html
http://www.christinedemerchant.com/rope_material_polyester.html
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maybe a good set of roof racks might ease the pain of loading and unloading, you wouldn't have to hunch over like you do when putting them in the car. or consider a pick up truck, you can load all your gear easy, have a rack across the back and let the rod tips stick out over the tail gate
I'm actually in the process of getting a new vehicle. I really want a small pick up. I'm leaning towards a 2014 tacoma.
A stand up rack in the back would be ideal. Even better would be a boat with a small cabin but I'm stuck with the one I have for now, no complaints.
Thanks for the clarification, Robert.
Dom