Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Welcome! => Welcome! => Topic started by: Josh Smith on July 03, 2014, 12:17:02 AM

Title: New User
Post by: Josh Smith on July 03, 2014, 12:17:02 AM
Hi Folks,

I'm Josh Smith from Smith-Sights.  When I'm able to get away from doing what I do, I prefer to fish or work on my equipment.

My first reel was a little black Zebco in the late '70s.  I hardly remember this reel and I do NOT remember my first fishing trip.  Dad would sit me down on a rock in Little Flat Rock.  While he fished for smallmouth, I fished for chubs. 

My second reel was a Zebco 33.

I eventually grew into Dad's old (made in '75) Ambassadeur 5000, and that's mostly why I'm here.

A screw broke off in the frame, and I ordered a new frame and a new (old) 5000, while I was at it.

Dad told me "By the way, I put fast gears in that 5000, 5:1 or so."

So I swapped gears into the older 5000 while rebuilding Dad's.

Now I'm looking at the different things that can be done to these old reels, and I even acquired a 3000 which arrived today.

I'm looking at parts, but don't want to order until I know for sure what interchanges.  I also have plans to add bearings to one of the 5000s, though I really like how they cast using boundary layer fluid (you know, like crank bearings in motor oil.)

I know bearings won't fit directly into the 5000 from the 5500c, but having a few machines will let me fit the spool up.

I do this to relax and prefer lower-speed gears as I always tend to crank the newer reels too fast for the type of fishing I do.

It's good to be here, and I thank you for having me.

Regards,

Josh
Title: Re: New User
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 03, 2014, 12:21:09 AM
Welcome Josh!
You need to post this in the Ambassadeur section so someone with more knowledge than me can help you out with these.
Title: Re: New User
Post by: harryk3616 on July 03, 2014, 12:25:42 AM
hi    josh,   welcome,  out of my league, sorry i can't help you with this type of reel.  some one along the line will jump in to help you.     harryk
Title: Re: New User
Post by: Keta on July 03, 2014, 12:27:02 AM
Hi.

You should post a link to your sight site.... ;D

I'll do it for you....BTW nice stuff.

http://www.smith-sights.com/ (http://www.smith-sights.com/)
Title: Re: New User
Post by: Bill B on July 04, 2014, 12:16:41 AM
Welcome from the Sacramento Delta..
Title: Re: New User
Post by: Dr. Jekyll - AKA MeL B on July 04, 2014, 12:35:57 AM
welcome to the "neighborhood"...
Title: Re: New User
Post by: foakes on July 04, 2014, 02:24:48 AM
Welcome, Josh --

You have a well presented and clear website -- very well done!

You may consider signing up also for the firearms forum on this site -- your knowledge would be an asset to the group when it comes to certain aspects of gun smithing.

I had to laugh at your disclaimer about shipping parts to Canada -- although I fully agree with you.

The thing about shipping into or out of Canada is that it does take around 2 - 4 weeks, if there are no complications.  And it is expensive and a hassle for both parties.

The sad irony is that truckloads of goods can come into the US from Mexico -- with little oversight and no hassle.

And a small part for a fishing reel coming or going from Canada involves every alphabet agency there is -- along with ridiculously slow Customs -- plus the expense.

Looking forward to seeing some pics of your Ambassadeur when it's done.

Best Regards,

Fred






Title: Re: New User
Post by: alantani on July 04, 2014, 07:11:23 AM
welcome!  go ahead and put a link to your business http://www.smith-sights.com/ in the member's business section at http://alantani.com/index.php?board=43.0  it's not really fishing related, but i saw the cute photo of belle with the plastic grub, so that makes it close enough to fishing as far as i'm concerned.  alan
Title: Re: New User
Post by: Mr.Grinta on July 04, 2014, 08:31:23 AM
Welcome Josh!
leonard
Title: Re: New User
Post by: MFB on July 04, 2014, 09:33:50 AM
G'day Josh,

Rgds

Mark
Title: Re: New User
Post by: Dominick on July 04, 2014, 03:18:48 PM
Welcome Josh Smith.  Is that a real or stage name?   ;D ;D Dominick
Title: Re: New User
Post by: Josh Smith on July 05, 2014, 07:41:55 AM
Hi Guys,

Thanks!

Quote from: foakes on July 04, 2014, 02:24:48 AM
You may consider signing up also for the firearms forum on this site -- your knowledge would be an asset to the group when it comes to certain aspects of gun smithing.

I found the thread on the gun board area (I assume it's hidden?) and asked to sign up.  I have lived and breathed guns for quite a while, and though I started fishing before I was old enough to remember, I didn't really get into reels until recently.

My gunsmithing experience, on the other hand, is much more extensive.  Fixing reels is one thing, but modding them like I do guns... well, no real experience there, yet.  I have parts coming in next week that I hope will serve to change that.

I'd like to start repairing older reels to give away to help get folks into fishing.  In fact, I have an Abu Garcia 3000 sitting here for that purpose.  Its guts are solid but the plastic side plates look like hell.  Too much sun, methinks.

Happy Fourth!

Regards,

Josh 
Title: Re: New User
Post by: foakes on July 05, 2014, 03:22:21 PM
Hi Josh --

I just completed a full cleaning, and service on a 4000 for a client -- along with 5 other reels.

This is a reel from the 1970-1973 era.

Same thing with this one -- the red plastic side plates had turned pink (inside was still original red). I thought I might bring it back with a little "Black Magic" that I use for plastic and rubber restoration.  Wiped some on and it turned back to original red -- then after 20 minutes it faded right back to pink.  Wasn't daring enough to try anything else, since those 40 year old side plates seem a little brittle -- and since it was mechanically new now -- that was enough.

Abu must have had a lot of complaints -- since they discontinued these side plates after a few years.

I suppose they could be painted -- but it is more work than can be justified -- and it is possible unless being very careful to use the right kind of paint -- that the integrity of the material may be diminished even further.

It is just a backup rig for Kokanee trolling anyway -- it will work just fine as is.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: New User
Post by: Dominick on July 05, 2014, 03:29:20 PM
Hey Fred is that photo Lake Tahoe?  Dominick
Title: Re: New User
Post by: foakes on July 05, 2014, 04:15:19 PM
Hi Dom --

That's Bridgeport Resevoir in Bridgeport, CA, Mono County -- Eastern side of the Sierras

Been going there for 40 years.

We live up in the Sierras, on the Western side close to a place called Shaver Lake -- at 4400'.

We just drive across through Tioga Pass, across the top of Yosemite, pass is 9945'.

I learned how to fish the lake from an old friend who fished it since late 1940s.  The only reel Elmo ever used was an old Centaure -- he would fish it 120 days a year -- and every year it would need an overhaul requiring me to go scrounge parts off of a few Centaures I kept in stock just for him.

Best,

Fred