I know you guys are probably tired of me showing my 12/0's, but I spent the whole afternoon making a sleeve washer and retapping the handle.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_24651_zps8f67f2f4.jpg)
I put Jamie's Emron coated spool on this one. Lee's Crank and replaced the bronze gears(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_24661_zpsa1537f84.jpg) with steel ones.
We'll never get tired looking at your reels , but I don't see the sleeve washer.
I'm glad you put that spool on, it would be nice to see if Imron paint holds up your punishment ;).
Have you used the reel with the cute long slice out of the center of the handle? I had one of those and while fighting a heavy snapper the thing folded over against the star. I don't want any more cute stuff on my handles. All meat for me. When Keta made me some nice solid ones they worked perfect and no more bent handles.
Quote from: Newell Nut on August 04, 2014, 12:27:35 PM
Have you used the reel with the cute long slice out of the center of the handle? I had one of those and while fighting a heavy snapper the thing folded over against the star. I don't want any more cute stuff on my handles. All meat for me. When Keta made me some nice solid ones they worked perfect and no more bent handles.
Had the same happening to me, but that was on the first run. These latest handles are not going anywhere, they're much beefy.
I reeled in a 6' Bull Shark with one. Its 3/16" stainless. Lee must have sold you all the Cute ones. ;)
I like looking at them! Keep posting, and look for a PM from me.
I reeled in a 6' bull with a longbeach 67... nothing was happy. Now I have a 4/0hlw.
I found you can get a 14/0 handle with the same rubberized grip used on the international 80s from Penn, how do these handles compare ? Handle plus grip looking at 60ish? The Penn one is 43.
And yes, can never get enough hefty Penn's!
Personally,
I think there is no comparison. The stainless arms and Kokelar Handles are a lot tougher than stock. $15 to $18 for the arm. $33 for the Handle. That 6' Bull was at least 100 yards off the Beach when I hooked him. He was on the sand in two minutes.
Quote from: Alto Mare on August 04, 2014, 11:23:09 AM
We'll never get tired looking at your reels , but I don't see the sleeve washer.
I'm glad you put that spool on, it would be nice to see if Imron paint holds up your punishment ;).
The washer is under the sleeve to take out the slop. I had to drill and grind down a stainless washer to fit.
Gotcha! I thought you meant the washer under the star.
Doesn't that raise the Sleeve higher then the Dog?
Not enough to create a problem Mike. It is already moving that amount anyway. Lee's stainless dogs are thicker than stock ones. So this helps too. That slop in the handle drives me nuts. The only other option is peening the rivet or replacing the bridge.
If Lee's dogs were thicker than stock you would have had problems.
Installing a shim under the gear sleeve won't cause any problems, but shouldn't overdo it on thickness, I usually use .15 to .25mm in thickness.
Replacing or peening the sleeve is not the only option, you could drill a new hole on the sleeve a little higher than existing hole ;)
I'm shimmed under the gear sleeve to tighten it up too. I'm sure your aware you have to ensure it is smaller the Inner position of teeth and that it doesn't interfere with the operation of the dog(s). Also it the rivit rotates freely, or if there is excessive wobble...I replace the whole bridge assembly. I like Lee's idea, except I'm not sure how much higher you can raise the sleeve before it stops fully engaging the dogs, or loses strength by not fully sitting on the stepped portion of the gear shaft. Thin aluminum sheeting makes good shim material if you don't have the right size factory SS or copper shims.
John, you might be calling me Lee, not that you chose a bad name ;D, I'm Sal.
About the wobble on the rivet, I don't waste my time anymore trying to fix it, I just replace it.
Yes, If there is any play in that rivet. I pitch it.
You got me second guessing myself now John. Usually just a very thin spacer is all that is needed, but this one needed a little more.
The stepped portion of the shaft has me thinking I should replace it.
This is the normal shim I use.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_21471_zps4c83172f.jpg)
That one looks fine to me. I suppose 0.2-0.4 (mm) total thickness on shimming here should be fine?
Looks like with the thicker dog(s) a >0.005" (>0.127mm) shim might be a good thing in more ways then one.
That's what has me worried. That last reel I did, The washer was way thicker. I'm talking .080! :o
Sal, I'm not trying to argue, just wanted to show you a little something. Lee's dog.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_24671_zps23116d92.jpg)
Stock dog.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_24681_zps0a4c5797.jpg)
Quote from: Tightlines666 on August 05, 2014, 02:15:22 AM
That one looks fine to me. I suppose 0.2-0.4 (mm) total thickness on shimming here should be fine?
Looks like with the thicker dog(s) a >0.005" (>0.127mm) shim might be a good thing in more ways then one.
You'll get away with a little thicker as well, I've been there and done that. The best location for the spacer is as Daron is showing, not on the shaft.
There is no thicker dog, unless Lee had a special run. I was one of the guys checking all the dogs that he made in the beginning and I have a few, or should I say a bunch, that are thinner, but never thicker.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on August 05, 2014, 04:13:33 AM
That's what has me worried. That last reel I did, The washer was way thicker. I'm talking .080! :o
Sal, I'm not trying to argue, just wanted to show you a little something. Lee's dog.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_24671_zps23116d92.jpg)
Stock dog.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_24681_zps0a4c5797.jpg)
Daron, you can argue with me, I can take it...I'm a big boy.
This is about us trying to give the correct information as best as we can and it's never personal.
Here are mine:
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/upgrades%20for%20others/005_zps6d492b6b.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/upgrades%20for%20others/005_zps6d492b6b.jpg.html)
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/upgrades%20for%20others/006_zps3e86b01c.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/upgrades%20for%20others/006_zps3e86b01c.jpg.html)
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/pescatore3/upgrades%20for%20others/009_zps1345ff08.jpg) (http://s766.photobucket.com/user/pescatore3/media/upgrades%20for%20others/009_zps1345ff08.jpg.html)
It is a good idea to use new dogs when comparing, yours might be worn a bit. Also, that last number on the right doesn't really mean much, unless we're brain surgeons ;D
Who let the dogs out?? ;D (Sorry, I couldn't resist... ahem.)
~A~
As an aside, I've told Lee that he doesn't charge enough.
The ones I showed, just came yesterday. Its the last of the long 12/0 ones he had. I was completely out.
They will work great when Tom's new sleeves come available. ;)
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_23951_zps861aaf55.jpg)
I wasn't talking about the new stainless steel dogs, I was talking about you comparing them to that old brass dog that you're measuring. Good to hear Lee still making deliveries.
Lee is the man! ;D
So, lets just say. Lee's stainless dogs will bring your reel back to factory specs. ;)
Quote from: Shark Hunter on August 05, 2014, 04:59:16 PM
Lee is the man! ;D
So, lets just say. Lee's stainless dogs will bring your reel back to factory specs. ;)
time to move on bud ;)
Ok, Just one more thing. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeSL0pgA1-c&feature=player_embedded